Wk 12: Team Matchmaker for Marshall

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to the Point after show with Kyle Maurer, Marshall heslaw and Ian DeWitt. This is the show where the guys attempt to pick the winners of the weekly NFL games along with some healthy debate about current topics. Let's go, Kyle Marshall. Hey. Hey. What's up? [00:00:18] Speaker B: Crickets. Yeah. [00:00:19] Speaker A: Awkward. [00:00:20] Speaker B: Oh, I know. It's the bottom button down there. [00:00:22] Speaker A: We miss him. Yeah, I was in a different one, but I appreciate you. Ian's not here today and that's all right. Ian's got some family stuff. Family life takes precedent over a podcast. [00:00:31] Speaker B: We love you and miss you. Ian, your thought of. [00:00:34] Speaker A: And while we brought the hot cocoa cookies from Ashley that are ph nominal easily at 8.9 out of 10 for me. [00:00:42] Speaker B: Wow, that's pretty good. [00:00:44] Speaker A: They will be consumed by me and not Ian. So thank you. [00:00:47] Speaker B: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. [00:00:48] Speaker A: Question of the day. I got a few on here. We're going to work our way from bottom to top. If you're looking at our dock on here, Kyle, favorite thing about the fall just. You can't pick football. Oh, sorry. [00:00:59] Speaker B: Oh, man. Yeah, I really like, I really enjoy the. The like the perfect fall weather and the like, the opportunities that it affords because I can just do so much. You can, you can really like the. You're unlimited when it comes to outdirect. I mean, I guess there's like, there's like really summery activities that you couldn't do. I want to go swimming, but like, I'm not that. That sort of thing. Like, I want to go out and you know, do some work, like some chores around the farm. I want to go like, you know, blaze trails in our woods. I want to do carpentry in the barn. You know, I want to like mow or leaf blow the yard or something like that and get outside and, and get busy and work on things and it's awesome. Or playing sports outside is super fun. Like backyard football is just like. That's ecstasy, you know, Know to me. [00:01:52] Speaker A: That'S like just so beautiful trails and ecstasy. This is an PG13 rated show. [00:01:58] Speaker B: I love that stuff, you know, and. And we have been very fortunate with the weather this year here in Michigan. It's been up. It's just been. [00:02:05] Speaker A: We've had second and third winter though that have come around. You know the joke about Jackson and Michigan that has like, it's winter and then it's fall and then second winter. [00:02:14] Speaker B: Right. [00:02:15] Speaker A: Third fall. [00:02:16] Speaker B: Right, right, right. [00:02:17] Speaker A: That's what happens. [00:02:18] Speaker B: We'll get it. But it's been good. I Like to be thankful. [00:02:20] Speaker A: My favorite. [00:02:21] Speaker B: This is the week of being thankful. All right? No downers, no throwing cold water on. On these thankful takes. Okay. [00:02:28] Speaker A: My favorite is. And this might sound a little niche, but bear with me. I just love a good donut. [00:02:36] Speaker B: Oh. [00:02:36] Speaker A: And I think that it's a lot more socially acceptable to eat a donut in the fall. [00:02:40] Speaker B: It. It is donut season. [00:02:41] Speaker A: Is that, like, true? It might be in factual there. Like, do people go out in the summer to go get donuts? Well, I mean, besides Hinkley. [00:02:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:54] Speaker A: Yeah. People don't go to, like, Red Egg Farm and Mechley's to go get stuff in the hot summer. [00:03:00] Speaker B: Well, maybe you're right. Maybe you're right. I don't know. [00:03:02] Speaker A: Okay. [00:03:02] Speaker B: I'm pro donut all the. All year long. [00:03:04] Speaker A: Thank you. But, like, what's your go to donut? [00:03:07] Speaker B: It's got. It's got to be filled. Fill it up with some custard or some red filling. [00:03:15] Speaker A: Cherry, Raspberry. [00:03:16] Speaker B: I could go cherry. I'm probably raspberry if it. If they got it, you know? How about watermelon? I could do an apple. Watermelon. I've never heard. [00:03:24] Speaker A: Me neither. What about if there was an NFL team that moved to Jackson? What would you name them? [00:03:31] Speaker B: You know, I want to come up with something really good for that. [00:03:34] Speaker A: I have a better answer. [00:03:35] Speaker B: Okay. [00:03:36] Speaker A: Before you even say one. Oh, you're going to hear in go. Why'd I even get have one? The Jackson Coney's. [00:03:43] Speaker B: Oh, okay. That's. That's really not bad. [00:03:45] Speaker A: Thank you. Yeah, I'm a no onion kind of guy with my coney. [00:03:49] Speaker B: Yeah. I'll swap the onions out, and I'll put in banana peppers. [00:03:54] Speaker A: Oh, that's not a Coney. Take that and leave the state. [00:03:58] Speaker B: Or jalapeno peppers instead. [00:04:00] Speaker A: It's terrible. Not a Coney. [00:04:02] Speaker B: Phenomenal. [00:04:03] Speaker A: Awful. All right, what's your answer for that? What would you say? [00:04:10] Speaker B: Let's see, the. [00:04:13] Speaker A: The newest team that joins. [00:04:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:18] Speaker A: Jackson. [00:04:21] Speaker B: I don't know. Right. [00:04:24] Speaker A: That's already been there. [00:04:25] Speaker B: I don't really don't. I don't want to do a wall. [00:04:27] Speaker A: Thing, but something to do with prisons. [00:04:30] Speaker B: What's. What's like a. Like a positive kind of positive connotation? [00:04:36] Speaker A: Teen pregnancy. [00:04:37] Speaker B: Yeah, we got to do better than that. [00:04:39] Speaker A: What about the Cascades Falls? [00:04:42] Speaker B: The Jackson Waterfalls? [00:04:45] Speaker A: I don't hate it. The Hinckleys. [00:04:46] Speaker B: Okay, okay, okay. The Jackson Bakers, you know. [00:04:51] Speaker A: Okay. That's your answer. All right, our next and final question of the day. Is you restart an NFL team. This is, this is where we're going to start in terms of football. Like, this is a football podcast. Okay. Like, don't let. I mean, people show up for the pod for two reasons. Right, right, right. Actually three, to hear Ian. His like demonstrative voices that go along in the background. [00:05:15] Speaker B: Right, right, right. [00:05:16] Speaker A: The sound effects, as I like to call them. The second thing is to hear Ian say he believes in one thing. Defense wins championship. [00:05:25] Speaker B: He lives his life by it. [00:05:26] Speaker A: And the third thing is the questions of the day that don't have to do with football. Right. Some might say that's why many people join and listen, but we're going to start with a little bit of football here. You restart an NFL team. Okay. [00:05:40] Speaker B: Could. Could this be like an expansion scenario where it's a. [00:05:43] Speaker A: It was a fresh start. [00:05:44] Speaker B: Say it's the Jackson waterfalls, the Jackson Bakers, the Jackson teammates. We keep working on this. Okay. [00:05:51] Speaker A: The Jackson Coneys. Where do you start? Would you want the richest owner possible, the most proven gm, the hot shot coach or the star quarterback in the draft? My prediction for where you rank things, Quarterbacks, very low. Probably just ahead of owner, though. Every owner is going to be rich. [00:06:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:24] Speaker A: To buy a team, you can't be poor. So unless you're the packers or the Bengals. [00:06:31] Speaker B: Sure. [00:06:31] Speaker A: So I think you're going to go with gm. [00:06:34] Speaker B: Do you? [00:06:35] Speaker A: That's my guess. [00:06:36] Speaker B: To me, I. I mean, I'm a business guy and the. I think about the hierarchy that it's always top down. Responsibility for success starts at the top. And I think that the, A lot of the success or lack thereof for many professional franchises really can and should be pointed to the top to. [00:07:06] Speaker A: You're getting Jameis Winston. [00:07:09] Speaker B: I would take him. I would take him. I like James. What. What a. What a performance yesterday. [00:07:13] Speaker A: Great. By the way, that touchdown to start it. My brother Tommy was at the game on site. Performer. [00:07:22] Speaker B: That's incredible. Wow. [00:07:24] Speaker A: Sorry. [00:07:25] Speaker B: Go Tommy. [00:07:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Shout out. [00:07:26] Speaker B: Has Tommy ever listened to the show? [00:07:28] Speaker A: Yes. Yes. He's a listener of the pod. [00:07:30] Speaker B: Oh, well. Shout out. Tommy. Thanks for tuning in. [00:07:32] Speaker A: The one and only T Bird. [00:07:34] Speaker B: I was. It warms my heart that Jamis is getting not just minutes in a game, but is reminding us what the Jamis experience is so we don't forget, you know, because time passes and you start to forget what the Jamis experience is like. [00:07:48] Speaker A: You can't only have so many people in the NFL that can start a pregame talk and end by singing Sunday Night Football music by Gary Underwood for A Sunday morning game in another country. Yeah. [00:08:02] Speaker B: And furthermore, like, how many players this year? Just how many? How many? Counting on both hands if you have to. But how many players have broken into Hamilton? Lyrics during a press conference. [00:08:11] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:08:13] Speaker B: How many? [00:08:14] Speaker A: I'm throwing away my shot. [00:08:15] Speaker B: I don't have any. Yeah, I only remember Jamis from this year doing that, but it's his in game. This is not an answer to question, but I. I like that he's playing and he's exciting. [00:08:27] Speaker A: It's a good question of the day. This is a really good one. It's gotten us off topic. [00:08:30] Speaker B: I start at the top. I always start at the top. I think an owner that does not interfere, but instead empowers is the greatest thing a franchise can have. And so I'm sticking with that answer. That's. That's number one. That's where I would start with. Not just. I mean, us, just the richest owner. I don't think that's. It's as simple as that. I. I'd want actually a good owner who is willing to empower the people that they put in place and not interfere with their strategies and to give them time to cook. [00:09:00] Speaker A: Wow. [00:09:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:01] Speaker A: Cook the Bakers. Yeah, there we go. [00:09:04] Speaker B: Jackson Bakers, we're back. Give them time to bake. [00:09:07] Speaker A: I'm. I'm. [00:09:08] Speaker B: Where are you at? [00:09:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm going to go proven gm. I think any owner can genu fleck to a a proven gm, and a medling owner can genu flect to a a good gm. So I think, in my opinion, that's where I go. And I know if Ian was here, he'd say Brad Holmes. People trusted in Brad Holmes. [00:09:31] Speaker B: Right, right, right. [00:09:31] Speaker A: And you know what? He's not wrong. [00:09:33] Speaker B: But like, like a Howie Roseman. What's the Rams guy? Is that Les Need? [00:09:38] Speaker A: Who's the guy from the Eagles? [00:09:40] Speaker B: That's Howie Roseman. [00:09:41] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, he is. Like, I've heard a lot of interviews with him just come up in the NFL and his experience of where he's been and what he's gone through, it's really kind of a neat story. And I feel really old saying neat. [00:09:53] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:09:54] Speaker A: But, yeah, it is neat. [00:09:58] Speaker B: That's. That's amazing. I love that. But the guy works like he's trying to win a Lombardi every year, and I respect that. Every night, like you see it. That is a team that says we are winning a championship where every other team is like, we might. [00:10:15] Speaker A: Hey, we need to talk about that. We're going to talk about that game first, before we get to any of our listeners, a 21 to nothing below. They blew it. They blew it. And it's just absolutely absurd that the Cowboys, who are basically the equivalent of Olay defense, like, Olay run through. Like, please run past us. We'll run past you. Like, they are awful at defense. And somehow A.J. brown had what, six catches, 115 yards in a touchdown. And like, it still wasn't fixed. The quotes coming out of the Eagles are scary. Like, this is what I felt like we were going to get last year. But wins solve everything, right? That scary defensive line that should scare every single team somehow Dak was flipping through the end zone to tie the game and then wins. They threw four straight passes on the goal line and then somehow still won. [00:11:22] Speaker B: I don't even know how to explain it. [00:11:24] Speaker A: I don't have an answer for it. I don't know what it says about the culture. We just talked about Howie Roseman and like, this great GM of that we enjoyed so much. And Nick Sirianni is the one, you know, twisting things here and the, the guru guy in the building. And how important was Kellen Moore? How important was Kelsey. Jason Kelce to the. To the team? And he talked. I heard an interview with Jason Kelce, talked about how him and Lane Johnson got in an argument early in his career and he didn't speak to him for an entire year. Geez, he's on the same offensive line. Did not speak to him. [00:12:02] Speaker B: That's crazy. [00:12:02] Speaker A: Like, that's just unfathomable. And just to talk, that goes to what the locker room culture can be and how we really don't know. This is a workplace unlike any other. [00:12:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:16] Speaker A: HR does not exist in the NFL yet alone. A public airing of grievances when you do not agree with your coach or the system or your own quarterback. The own. Your own captain. Think of the Seahawks. They, you know, absolutely ostracized Russell Wilson for years and basically called him Uncle Sam, you know, for going to the owner above his own head coach about certain things. So it. We really don't know what a locker room should or could look like. We don't. Yeah, we have no idea. [00:12:53] Speaker B: You're right. You know, actually, you remind me of a great episode of another podcast, if I could plug one. But the Freakonomics podcast did an episode last year and they did an update episode this year with Jason. Kelsey, uh, this is like a businessy economics podcast. I mean, many people listening will. Will know about the. The book Freakonomics and that there's a show. They did an episode with Jason Kelsey following the player survey that the NFL conducted and talking about those results and talking a lot about how these organizations are actually run internally and what ownership, like owners and ownership groups were taking away from the results of that survey and how players make their movement decisions and how trades work and a lot of intricate stuff that I've never really heard, especially from that perspective, like how the money works and what are the factors at play when, you know, owners are determining how to invest in, in their, their locker rooms and their cafeterias and their stadiums and so on. Fascinating episode. Worth a listen for any fan of football. [00:13:52] Speaker A: Consider me listening this week. [00:13:54] Speaker B: Yeah, you should check it out. I love every episode of the show. I listen to them all, but only occasionally did they do something that's sports focused. They just did a series that was about horse racing. It was really good. Um, anyway, your point is well made and I think that the culture setter is really a big thing. You know, like, I think a, I think a, like a Dan Campbell esque culture setting coach is, is a really big deal to a franchise and coaches can be around for literally decades for your franchise. Yeah, it can be a major, major difference maker. I like your choice of a gm of a proven gm, somebody who is committed to not just throwing a serviceable team out on the field, but in the game to win, to win championships. If you can get somebody, a Howie Roseman type person who's committed to doing what it takes to take this team all the way. I mean, that's, that's fantastic. And, and I totally respect that choice. So. Yeah, it's a good answer. [00:14:55] Speaker A: Cowboys. [00:14:57] Speaker B: Oh yeah, we already moved on to the Cowboys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:15:00] Speaker A: Some might say they're super bowl bound earlier this year. Some might say that. Let's, let's keep an eye on them. We like to say on the pod. [00:15:08] Speaker B: They are certainly an interesting team right now. I think, you know, they're. It's interesting to watch a game like that and think and see how many things are kind of working out for them awkwardly. And like the last thing in the world I want to do is like even insinuate some credit to Jerry Jones or anything. But. But to see that this is not a disaster is kind of funny. [00:15:28] Speaker A: Do you know what I heard about them? This is the first time I've ever heard this on like a, like an anal. Some analysis of like an NFL team. They're really looking good to make a move next year. I've never heard like they are poised to be a great 20, 26 team. [00:15:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:47] Speaker A: I just haven't heard that. There's not a lot of that. [00:15:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:50] Speaker A: That said, they might say that about the opposite. Like, yeah, they're going to look really good in the draft. They got good prospects coming up, you know. [00:15:58] Speaker B: Right. [00:15:58] Speaker A: No, they don't say that a lot. [00:16:00] Speaker B: So it's crazy how, like, how good their offense is. They're like, first in a lot of. [00:16:04] Speaker A: George Pickens is their number one wide receiver. [00:16:06] Speaker B: George Pickens is. Meanwhile, the Steelers don't have anybody to throw to catch a ball. [00:16:10] Speaker A: Yeah. DK can't even do a screen pass without going to the sideline for. For five, ten plays. [00:16:15] Speaker B: Right. Right. Yeah. So. And they're. They're actually running the ball better than they have since the. Since peak Zeke back in the day, which is so funny. But it helps to. [00:16:25] Speaker A: When. [00:16:25] Speaker B: When you have two great receivers out there, that kind of helps the run game a lot. And Dak is playing great. Dak is really, this year, like, one of the top five quarterbacks in the league. And having one of his better years proven that, you know, even at this stage in his career, like, he is still one of the guys. And ownership has really been behind him, has considered him like an immovable piece and a part of their team. He's demonstrated a lot of leadership yesterday. [00:16:53] Speaker A: I'm gonna move. We gotta move past the Cowboys, though. This makes you upset. It sells tickets. People subscribe to the pot. I don't mean to cut you off, but people complain. [00:17:01] Speaker B: Did we. Did we meet our quota? Did we talk about the Cowboys enough for, like, our media check? You know, we can move on. Okay. Okay, good. [00:17:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:08] Speaker B: We only talk about the Cowboys to meet a quota. [00:17:09] Speaker A: Eric G. Nunzio writes in. In our Mailbag segment. We need to hear from you guys. By the way, if you're saying, like, I've been here from the same couple people, that's because we got some loyal freaking listeners and we need to hear from you. Those people in the shadows. Tommy, I'm calling you out. Tommy, I need one. [00:17:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:24] Speaker A: Eric Gio writes in, you have a playoff team and your quarterback goes down. Which guy are you taking for a playoff run? Flacco, Tyrod Taylor, Jamus Winston, Mason Rudolph. By the way, G's exact words about this. Are you ready for this? Mason Rudolph is grossly underappreciated. He's great at being a backup. Jamis has proven he's. He will have a home for years to come, too, like Tyrod and Flacco. [00:18:01] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. Do you have an answer to this question between those four. [00:18:05] Speaker A: I'm telling you right now, it's not Mason Rudolph. He is not underrated. He is properly rated for being awful. He's terrible. [00:18:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:16] Speaker A: If you're telling me you have a playoff run and you could pick. I would pick my dog over Mason Rudolph. [00:18:23] Speaker B: Right, Right. [00:18:24] Speaker A: My dog isn't gonna get hit in the head. [00:18:26] Speaker B: J.J. mcCarthy. [00:18:28] Speaker A: Okay. Don't do that to Justin. Okay? We're 18 minutes in, and you already are slandering him. [00:18:34] Speaker B: I'm really so. I couldn't help it. [00:18:35] Speaker A: Stop it. You're going to hang on to it for a little bit. [00:18:37] Speaker B: Okay? [00:18:39] Speaker A: Okay. My answer. It's Flaco, dude. There's one answer. [00:18:42] Speaker B: I knew you were going to say playoff. Joe Flacco. [00:18:45] Speaker A: He's elite. He has shown you that with the right people, he can sling it. He's showing you. Right. Lisa, come on. Thank you for Ian, by the way. [00:18:57] Speaker B: It's inarguable. Right? Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, we're bringing that. I love that. You know, I was thinking about this the other day. Like, I find myself a little bit partial to the. To the old gray vets in the sports. [00:19:14] Speaker A: You know, you're just anti young people in NFL. [00:19:17] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no. Like, just as much as anybody else. I'm excited about the young. The young players like this. These are the people that we're gonna get to watch for years and years and years to come, especially if they're good. And it's very exciting to see prospects come into the league and flourish and find their system and bring new elements to the game. That's amazing. I love it. I really do. And I want the kids to have their opportunity and to get the support that they need to make the most of their talents. All of that is wonderful. It's very sad to see great talent wasted and bad fits. And it's so wonderful to see good talent applied in great places. To see the young people play is just incredible. But I always had just, like, such a soft spot and maybe a bias towards some of the. Some of the veterans, you know, the gray hairs, the guys who have seen it all, the guys who are hard to fool, who have a lot of relationships and stories and. And everything. I love the whole thing. And I'm often reluctant to let him go. You know, I'd love to see him get a little more time before. Before they go. Like, there's. So that contrasts with a lot of fans who are like, the second he, you know, stops, you know, being as elite as he was like, get him out of here. Let's get in a new. Like that. I'm not. I'm not buying into, you know, toss them out as soon as possible. So I tend to, like, hold on to the vets longer than. Than many other fans. [00:20:46] Speaker A: You have a longer leash for them, for sure. [00:20:48] Speaker B: I will. I will be very forgiving. [00:20:49] Speaker A: So, because you've seen it, Flacco is. [00:20:52] Speaker B: A good choice here. I think if. If. If Jameis were my guy, I'd be. I'd be like, fun. I'd have fun, and I'd be rooting for him. Like, nothing would please even more than to see him have, like, actual success in the NFL, not just, you know, like the. The fun and the. In the stories and like, some interesting runs and stuff, but, like, legitimate success before his career is done would be very cool. Flacco's already won a Super bowl, but I would be rooting my butt off to see. To see actually Jameis Woodson have something. I talked too much about him on this show, I'm sure, but, yeah, that'd be my pick. [00:21:29] Speaker A: I like it. Can you read our take from Justin Matson? I'm going to make you say it this time. [00:21:33] Speaker B: We've got to take from Justin. Thank you for writing in. Justin. Love hearing from you every week. I am legitimately about to step away from social media for the remainder of the football season because I cannot handle all the JJ slander. I won't stand for it. The 9 stuff was corny, but I refuse to clown on the youngest quarterback in the league for looking like the youngest quarterback in the league. I will die on the hill for my great warrior, jj. Justin, I love your take, actually. Like, I have so much respect for Justin. Justin has endeared himself to me as one of our favorite listeners, my favorite listeners of this show. And I am just tickled by this p. By this take of yours. I support you getting off social media. Of course. Social media is a stupid waste of time and a plague on our society. So, yeah, that's great. I endorse that for much flimsier reasons than this. And the 9 stuff was certainly corny, but JJ is a young guy and looks like he's got a long way to go. And we were ready to write off a lot of other quarterbacks at this stage in the past who just needed a little more time there. [00:22:47] Speaker A: Sorry about that. There was some analysis that I heard Chris Sims talk about on NBC and his PF Pro Football Focus podcast that he does weekly, and I really haven't heard anything like this. And you know, there are some schematic things about obviously the NFL that are different from Michigan. You know, there are five or six different routes that they're running truly to an extent in, in NCAA. There are 50 minimum in the, in the NFL there. And if you look at a lot of JJ's games, he has the same throw. It's a fastball. Like I watched yesterday. I watched like Dak had like a handful of just. I mean, you watch Stafford. Stafford's a great person to think about. Not just the sidearm, but the touch. He has uncertain throws. The loft over the cornerback, but below the safety, kind of. A lot of JJ's passes are just fastballs. They are fast. [00:23:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:50] Speaker A: And, and he is like just absolutely ready to cork it at any point. So when somebody misses a five yard pass, because he is absolutely just rifling it at them. I kind of don't, I don't understand him not being like, sold as this. Like, I think there's a lot more things that need to be done in an off season for him. [00:24:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:16] Speaker A: Where he has a healthy off season with the head coach, the quarterback guru. [00:24:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:21] Speaker A: Come on. [00:24:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm, I'm generally, generally with you. And the analysis that I've heard from, like, people who are pretty deep in quarterback analysis has tended to be that the game is very fast for him still. And a lot of his, his issues stem from an apparent late decision making and compensating by slinging it, max speed, whip it, you know, like, I see the guys open, but it's clicking for me, you know, a little bit later than it should. And so I'm making up for it by whipping that ball. And these are symptoms of someone who is kind of not exact. These do not, I think, speak to his talent or his potential. I think that they suggest that this point in time, the game is really moving fast for him. And I mean, I feel stupid saying I relate to this, but, like, I've been playing pickup basketball for a number of years with the same people. Okay, just stop, stop. When I started, like, I'd never played before. When I started, the game was so crazy fast. And I made nothing but turnovers. I couldn't guard anybody. I couldn't keep up. I was just a total liability on the court. And it was mostly because it was just unbelievably fast. I couldn't keep up. I couldn't understand what was happening. And years later, now the game has the major, the biggest change. It's not like My shot has gotten way better or my handles gotten way better or my skills. The game has just slowed down tremendous, tremendously. And now I'm out there on the court. I was just doing it today where I'm physically, like, grabbing my teammates on my pickup team and moving them to their spot to play defense while I'm guarding my guys, and everything is just clear. And I have an awareness of everything that's going on because of those many, many reps. I feel very stupid and almost want to edit out the fact that I use my own very limited recreational sports experience as an example here. But I can relate to just how much reps matter. And I see it for jj. I see that he's super young. I see that he has not had a lot of experience in these types of settings, and the game is very complicated. This is a guy that I could absolutely see running a competent offense in another season, and I hope that the Vikings see that, too. [00:27:00] Speaker A: I admire Justin's faith. I think that's something cool to see among fans that are very quick to cast off. And I don't see that in him, which is really, really nice. And I think that's endearing in a fan. So some might call it naivete, but to me, I really appreciate that, Justin, and keep me in you. Adam Silver writes in how about Commentary that I'm picking a solid 92% winners via ESPN Pigskin League that I'm doing at work. Good job. And it's a weird feeling to want certain teams that aren't the 49ers to win so I can move up in our pool yet. I'm not doing fantasy football with y' all too stressful. [00:27:46] Speaker B: We didn't get a full commission report from Adam, but his Niners are playing right now against the Panthers, as I recall. And for my fantasy team, I really need Rico Dowdle to have a bad game. Anyway, thank you for writing in Adam Silver. [00:28:00] Speaker A: Commish. Can we talk about something that Ian talked about last week between us, of something to be pitched to our listeners instead? You know, I don't know if the listeners know this, but we pick every game we have for five years. [00:28:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:18] Speaker A: Ian right now has not won a single time picking. He's over five. [00:28:25] Speaker B: I think we're two and two. Like, I've won two, you've won two, isn't that right? [00:28:29] Speaker A: That's correct. [00:28:30] Speaker B: And this is our fifth one. We'll see if we have a tie break. We're really hoping that Ian wins, at least. I'm hoping that. [00:28:35] Speaker A: Yeah, you're hoping for that Ian invited the idea of having our listeners also pick with us. Pick every game. Let's see what the commission is made of against Ian and Marshall and Kyle. [00:28:51] Speaker B: Could be interesting. [00:28:52] Speaker A: I would like to see it. [00:28:53] Speaker B: Listeners, let us know. We've got a fantasy league that some of you are participating in. What about, what about a straight up game pick them contest throughout the next season? Are you in? Let us know. [00:29:07] Speaker A: All right, let's move on to Rick Baxter. Rick wrote in a ton of questions for us last week about having a hundredth podcast episode but he also gave us some crate great NFL questions. Kyle, can you pick two off of there and just say let's hit two of those? [00:29:24] Speaker B: Yeah, happily. Let's grab some questions that Rick sent in to us. You went to Buffalo earlier this year for a wedding. Totally came back with Bill's I got. [00:29:38] Speaker A: A Bill T shirt. I already put you through a table, dude. [00:29:42] Speaker B: The Bills are an interesting team. Question Rick sent us is as the Bills championship window quietly closed or are we just witnessing a mid season identity crisis? And even after Rick wrote this question, the Bills collapsed on a Thursday night and lost to the Texans. What's going on there? How do you feel about this team? [00:30:02] Speaker A: I do think that the Texans had a really bad matchup with the Texas or the Texans had a big good matchup against the Bills. The defensive line and linebackers, like there's just the front seven for the Texans. They're set to play against a team like the Bills that they're going to go man to man. And unless you can beat them with crossers and one on ones which the Bills have proven, they don't have the wide receivers and tight ends and skill players to do that. They're going to put seven in the box and we might even put eight up there. [00:30:32] Speaker B: Right? [00:30:32] Speaker A: And please stop us, James Cook. Please stop us. Josh Allen. And they did not. They were relentless at getting to the quarterback and. But the crazy part is that it was Davis Mills. Davis Long Neck Mills. [00:30:45] Speaker B: Right. [00:30:45] Speaker A: Beat Josh Allen and the Bills to me. I've said it for weeks. Bills are frauds. I. I am. Sell the stock that you have on the Bills. Sell it. I'm. I'm out on them. I'm out on them. And I hope you heard me right. I'm out on them. I'm not out on him. [00:31:06] Speaker B: Okay. [00:31:06] Speaker A: I'm definitely out on that coach. Wow. [00:31:09] Speaker B: Wow. [00:31:10] Speaker A: Like I said last year, he should have been fired last year. [00:31:13] Speaker B: Fired last year. [00:31:14] Speaker A: That's crazy. I'm telling you, like I don't care that he was an MVP candidate during that season. That did not matter to me. Do you know what matters? Winning a Super Bowl. And he has been in the way of them winning a Super bowl multiple times. The way that they run that team and the way that they run that offense, it just. They won in spite of coaching multiple games. [00:31:38] Speaker B: Wow. [00:31:39] Speaker A: They did not commit to running the ball until this year. And now they're getting away from it. So Josh Allen could play drop back 42 times. [00:31:48] Speaker B: Right. [00:31:50] Speaker A: What has that shown you that you can lose to the Dolphins doing that? [00:31:55] Speaker B: It's incredible. Yeah. They are one of those perplexing teams, I think, entering every regular season as one of the super bowl favorites every single year. And then we just get a weird season. Not a bad season, you know, during the playoffs and mixed every single time. But it's. The inconsistency is remarkable. So I'm gonna hit you with another question. This comes from Rick Talk coaching confidence. What. Who's a coach that you are finding yourself trusting a little bit more every week? And does that you. Can you contrast that with one who's making you more nervous? [00:32:36] Speaker A: Nervous. I'm gonna hit you with that right off the. [00:32:38] Speaker B: Okay. Who's that? [00:32:39] Speaker A: Well, the guy that fired his most highly paid offense. You're talking about Pete Carroll in NFL history. [00:32:46] Speaker B: Right. [00:32:46] Speaker A: Chip Kelly, who was fired last night in the middle of the night after. [00:32:51] Speaker B: A loss to the. [00:32:54] Speaker A: The Cleveland Browns. Right? Right. Shador Sanders, the first time in 18 quarterbacks, won his first game as a Browns quarterback. [00:33:06] Speaker B: You're right. [00:33:07] Speaker A: What you just did is all I need. [00:33:09] Speaker B: Okay. [00:33:10] Speaker A: The fact that that guy talked about. I know what it's like to win, and it involves good defense and a good kicking game. That's. He just said that five. Five hours before the spot. He said it. Five hours. And this guy is who we're supposed to trust. You're out of touch. You're out of touch, Pete. It's not Reggie Bush and Matt Liner in your backfield anymore. And you're not bailing out on a great defense. Stop. [00:33:36] Speaker B: Right. [00:33:37] Speaker A: Cut it. Get rid of him. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Right. He needs to go. Yeah. I don't think you're wrong. I think that that's actually not a bad take. I think shine a light on Pete Carroll. [00:33:47] Speaker A: Worst right there. [00:33:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:50] Speaker A: It's a good one. That I'm finding myself trusting more and more Braves. [00:33:57] Speaker B: Really? [00:33:58] Speaker A: Okay. So the reason I'm saying it is not for what I think traditional people would say. I just. I find myself drawn to motivators. [00:34:05] Speaker B: Okay. This is New England Patriots coach Mike Vril. [00:34:09] Speaker A: I find myself just drawn to people who make me want to run through a brick wall. A lot of people say the Dan Campbell. And I think that Vrabel is probably an easy coach to get behind right now. [00:34:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:22] Speaker A: But I just find myself, like, rooting for him. [00:34:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:28] Speaker A: As a comeback story, as a coach, I don't think that that happens. I don't think you get written off as a coach and then become the endearing underdog. Can you think of many that are like that? I, I, I personally can't. That would be like LaFleur getting fired for having two bad seasons as the packers coach. And then all of a sudden, people talk about how great of a head coach he is when he coaches the Titans. I just, I don't think that that happens. And so that is. Why not? Because the Patriots are so much better than what we thought, and, oh, well, they're better. And we thought they weren't going to be that good. So we're going to give all the credit to the head coach because we can't explain it. So when we can't explain things, what do we do? Let's give him coach of the year. Like. No, it's not that. It's. I really just do find it endearing to think of him as this great motivator. And watching him talk to his players like little things like this, which might. And Kyle, bear with me, this might happen in other NFL teams and I don't know it. [00:35:30] Speaker B: Yep. [00:35:31] Speaker A: I see consistently videos of him standing in the hallway waiting to address his entire team. But before he does, he shakes and hugs every one of his teammates or of his players before they walk in. And coaches, that's huge. I don't think that that happens in every NFL team. I'll tell you this. It didn't happen for the Patriots before. [00:35:49] Speaker B: Right, Right. Good takes. [00:35:53] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:35:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:55] Speaker A: Next is our weekly segment from the one and only Kyle. So, Kyle, tell us what we got going today. [00:36:01] Speaker B: All right, Marshall, so the segment that I have prepared for you this week, something I thought of that is a good fit, I think, for just the two of us, just one on one, we're going to do something that's very. Yeah, we can make it if we try. Okay. It's just, Just you and I, and we're going to focus our attention on you, on Marshall Hesla. This is a Marshall Hesla specific. [00:36:24] Speaker A: This is my favorite kind of pod segment. [00:36:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:27] Speaker A: The Marshall Show. [00:36:29] Speaker B: You might say martial arts. So here's what we're going to do. I've got a series of questions for you. A bunch, actually. It's a long list and I'm going to need pretty rapid answers for you. No soliloquies, no speech here, no soapbox. I want you to give me pretty quick answers to these questions. I'm going to, as you answer them, record what you said. I'm going to be typing, essentially. [00:36:56] Speaker A: By the way, for those that don't know. I appreciate it. Okay. It makes me feel good about my. [00:37:00] Speaker B: Well, I just want everyone to have this sense that what I'm doing is important, and so I have to hammer the keys. I think it gives an impression of like a significance and important gravitas a little bit. Stop bothering gravitas, you know? Yeah. You're not gonna. You're not just gonna, like, interrupt or bug somebody who's hammering those keys, you know? [00:37:20] Speaker A: Please, I don't know what I'm talking about. Talk to me. [00:37:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm gonna hit you with these questions. I want pretty quick answers. I'm going to type out what you say, and when I get to my end, the end of my questions, we're going to pause the recording, I'm going to do some quick analysis, and we're going to come back and start recording again. I'm going to tell you my takeaways from these questions. [00:37:40] Speaker A: I like where this is heading. Hit me with these questions. [00:37:42] Speaker B: Okay. Number one again, your answers need to be pretty concise. Okay. All right. We're going to start at the top. Hit me with your favorite colors. [00:37:56] Speaker A: Green and blue. [00:37:59] Speaker B: Okay. What's your favorite season? [00:38:01] Speaker A: Oh, definitely fall. [00:38:04] Speaker B: Fall. Great. What are qualities that you admire in pro sports? Players? Think character. Their sense of humor, intelligence, attractiveness, efficiency, consistency, athleticism, leadership, personality, etc. Yeah. [00:38:17] Speaker A: What a character, a good talker and someone who is loyal to the team. [00:38:23] Speaker B: Loyal to the team? [00:38:23] Speaker A: No, no team. No person is bigger than the team. [00:38:27] Speaker B: Okay. [00:38:28] Speaker A: Or the program. [00:38:30] Speaker B: Got it. Got it. What are some qualities that you loathe in a fan base? [00:38:36] Speaker A: Unrealistic expectations and consistently negative. Can't find anything positive. Great. [00:38:45] Speaker B: Love it. Describe how you feel about team owners in as few words as possible. [00:38:52] Speaker A: Owners are the richest of the rich and they act like every other rich person you thought would. I can't be that surprised by them. [00:39:02] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. Great. Athletes get paid too much. Just enough or too little. [00:39:11] Speaker A: Athletes don't get paid enough. Great. [00:39:14] Speaker B: Great. Okay. What are. What are questionable. Questionable behaviors, activities or practices which pro teams might sometimes be guilty of looking the other way on that for. You As a fan would be Deal breakers. [00:39:33] Speaker A: Can you think of examples that teams are okay with that? I'm not. [00:39:38] Speaker B: Okay, well, you could think of maybe an example of maybe a scandal. So there's a team that, like Cowboys, continues to roster a player who did this or they condone certain behavior. They just. [00:39:50] Speaker A: Beating up basically. [00:39:51] Speaker B: Look the other way. [00:39:52] Speaker A: Racism. [00:39:53] Speaker B: Okay. Domestic violence and racism. [00:39:55] Speaker A: Bidding on people. I think that should be. You spit on somebody, you're cut from the league. That's like the lowest. I don't think that there's much of a lower crime that somebody can do that isn't arrestable. [00:40:06] Speaker B: The NFL just did basically somebody. No, the. The league did not impose a penalty, did they? Or is it just a team suspended. I want to say Jalen Ramsey, or was it Jamar Chase had to miss a game. [00:40:18] Speaker A: Jamar Chase. And even though he appealed it, even though on camera it saw him spitting. [00:40:24] Speaker B: Yes. What's the appeal here? [00:40:26] Speaker A: No, no, I didn't. I didn't do it. Thank you. [00:40:29] Speaker B: It was a sneeze. [00:40:30] Speaker A: I have your hand in the cookie jar. That wasn't me. That was Jamar 1.0. [00:40:37] Speaker B: What's one word to describe how you feel about cheerleaders? [00:40:42] Speaker A: Indifferent. [00:40:44] Speaker B: Okay. All right. There's no wrong answer to these questions. What's more important to you? Watching beautiful, entertaining football or just winning at all costs? [00:40:56] Speaker A: Oh, winning. Oh, winning. I've. Notre Dame win at all? [00:41:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Do you prefer offensive fireworks or defensive slug fests? [00:41:10] Speaker A: That's a good question. I'm an offensive guy. No offense. [00:41:18] Speaker B: No offense taken. Which sounds more appealing, a young, exciting team on the rise or an established powerhouse? [00:41:26] Speaker A: I like a good, up and coming team. [00:41:29] Speaker B: Thought you would. How do you feel about dramatic, heartbreaking playoff losses? Are they a deal breaker for you as a fan or just part of the journey? [00:41:36] Speaker A: Dramatic losses. They're part of the journey. [00:41:39] Speaker B: Okay. [00:41:39] Speaker A: You don't quit the team because you lost. [00:41:42] Speaker B: Right. Are there any teams in professional sports that are good examples of a team that you genuinely feel like you could never, ever root for? [00:41:55] Speaker A: Yeah. And why is there a team. Do I need to tell you who they are? [00:41:59] Speaker B: Give me. Give me an example of a team. [00:42:00] Speaker A: I'll never, ever root for. The University of Southern Cal. I just won't. I don't have any interest in them. [00:42:08] Speaker B: Why? [00:42:08] Speaker A: Well, one. The only reason that they got into USC is because it's easier to spell than ucla and nobody likes their team. They're all a bunch of, like, Hollywood. They sell Hollywood as the race reason that people want to go there and they're not that good. Sorry, pal. You don't even play in your own stadium all the time. You have to share it with ucla. Get over yourself. Rose bowl, my ass. [00:42:32] Speaker B: Interesting. Okay. [00:42:35] Speaker A: Is awful. [00:42:38] Speaker B: Wow. Okay. That's not even where I thought you were going. That question. Do you need your team to have had recent success or are you okay with a rebuild? [00:42:47] Speaker A: I'm okay with the rebuild. It's part of the process. I've watched too many of them. If you're not okay with that. You have. You don't watch football. [00:42:58] Speaker B: As. As a fan, I'm curious if it's important to you how you feel about other fans of the same team. [00:43:06] Speaker A: Like, what do I think of other fans? I don't have any. I could care less about them. [00:43:10] Speaker B: Are you kind of indifferent to generally what the other fans of the same team are? [00:43:16] Speaker A: I don't care what they think. [00:43:18] Speaker B: Okay. [00:43:19] Speaker A: Some of. Like. I'm putting every one of these questions through Notre Dame Spectrum. I could give two craps what other people think. I actually am actively avoid them. [00:43:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Interesting. Okay. [00:43:30] Speaker A: I don't want to watch games with them. [00:43:32] Speaker B: Would you rather root for a team that's consistently good or one with wild Boomer bust season? [00:43:36] Speaker A: Wild Boomer bus. Okay, we need the W. We need the ultimate W of the national championship. [00:43:43] Speaker B: Okay, let's talk about your personality. Describe it to me in three words. [00:43:48] Speaker A: Silly. Caring. Dependable. [00:43:55] Speaker B: Dependable. Lovely. Okay. Are you. [00:43:58] Speaker A: That wasn't one of mine. Not lovely. [00:44:02] Speaker B: Are you more attracted to tradition and history or innovation and disruption? [00:44:07] Speaker A: Say that one more time. [00:44:07] Speaker B: Are you more attracted to tradition and history or innovation? [00:44:12] Speaker A: I'm a tradition kind of guy. Are you Tradition. [00:44:14] Speaker B: I was thinking you would lead more innovative and disruptive. Okay. Okay. Do you like being the underdog or would you rather be the villain everyone loves to hate? [00:44:30] Speaker A: Oh, let me be a villain. Love a good hate. Yeah, that's a riddle right there. I love a good hate. [00:44:38] Speaker B: When you. [00:44:39] Speaker A: So funny. Can we do this every pod? [00:44:41] Speaker B: When you travel? [00:44:41] Speaker A: Therapy. [00:44:42] Speaker B: When you travel, do you prefer big cities, small towns, or just don't care? [00:44:47] Speaker A: I don't care. [00:44:48] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:44:49] Speaker A: Okay, I'm okay with whatever. Throw me in the middle of nowhere and let me do a dive bar. And. But also let me go into the more famous city and walk around downtown in the lights. I'm okay with either. [00:44:59] Speaker B: What's your tolerance for media drama and controversy surrounding your team? [00:45:03] Speaker A: Oh, I'm all for it. A little drama isn't bad. Tickets sell. [00:45:09] Speaker B: Okay, perfect. [00:45:11] Speaker A: Thank you for the loud typing, by the way. It's great. Asmr. That's what the people came for when the Internet here. [00:45:17] Speaker B: What would make you proudest as a fan? A championship. A legendary player or respected organization. [00:45:23] Speaker A: Championship. Okay. [00:45:24] Speaker B: You didn't even have to know the other. [00:45:26] Speaker A: You could give me five championships. Could have been the second answer. I want the one. [00:45:31] Speaker B: How loyal are you in general and general. General in. How loyal are you in general? [00:45:37] Speaker A: Skill one to ten. [00:45:38] Speaker B: Yeah, sure, sure. [00:45:39] Speaker A: Eleven. [00:45:39] Speaker B: Okay. [00:45:41] Speaker A: Like, if you're my people, you're my people. And if you mess with my people, I'm gonna mess with you. Not in a good way. [00:45:47] Speaker B: If you had a. Okay, if you. If you had a football team, would you rather have one with like a charismatic star quarterback or would you rather have a complete team effort? [00:45:57] Speaker A: That's a great question. I'm gonna go with complete team because I really like the unsung hero kind of players and they're a lot easier to find in. In situations like that. Whereas the quarterback can be. Or the star can be. Everybody roots for that person. [00:46:13] Speaker B: As a fan, does, like, the cool uniforms and branding matter at all to you at all? [00:46:20] Speaker A: I think it matters to everybody somewhat. [00:46:22] Speaker B: Okay. [00:46:22] Speaker A: I'd probably make it a three out of ten for me. [00:46:25] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. If your team's season ended today, what would make you say, you know what? It was still worth it. [00:46:39] Speaker A: Man. That's really frustrating for me to say because I'm going to go back on five or six different things that you've given me. Right. Because it's. I don't have an answer for that. Don't come back to me. [00:46:51] Speaker B: I mean, for me, like, we beat Ohio State last year and had a bad year and I still said like, that was a great I. [00:46:58] Speaker A: Great season or meaningful season? Those are different things to me. [00:47:01] Speaker B: I mean, I was satisfied at the end. Like, we beat the buckets. [00:47:05] Speaker A: Satisfying. Okay. I don't have a smart. I don't have a quick answer for that. Come back to me. I'm gonna have to chew on that one. [00:47:12] Speaker B: Are you a late night person or an early riser? [00:47:14] Speaker A: I'm both. [00:47:17] Speaker B: Okay. Which is not good for my city or suburbs. [00:47:21] Speaker A: I'm. I'm. Suburbs is like where I live or. No, I live in the city. I'm a city guy. [00:47:26] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. Mountains are beach, beach, beach. [00:47:31] Speaker A: Except for the sand. [00:47:32] Speaker B: Introvert or extrovert? [00:47:34] Speaker A: So I'm an extrovert with introverted tendencies. [00:47:37] Speaker B: Oh, gosh, don't be that person. [00:47:38] Speaker A: I am. I'm an extrovert. I love being around people, but, like, I do love Coming home and not talking to people. Yeah, I know. [00:47:44] Speaker B: Everybody says that. [00:47:44] Speaker A: All right, whatever. Screw off. [00:47:45] Speaker B: All right. Are you a planner or you're a spontaneous planner. Great. Would you rather be loved or feared? [00:47:54] Speaker A: Loved by how much people fear me. [00:47:58] Speaker B: Are you more logical or emotional? [00:48:00] Speaker A: Emotional. [00:48:00] Speaker B: Okay. Are you really? Okay. Okay. [00:48:03] Speaker A: Did you not think that? [00:48:05] Speaker B: Yeah. No, no, no, no. I would have arrived there. Optimist, pessimist, a realist. [00:48:13] Speaker A: I'm probably a pessimist if I had to be truthful. [00:48:17] Speaker B: Thank you for answering that truthfully. Okay, we're about halfway through. [00:48:22] Speaker A: Are you kidding me? [00:48:23] Speaker B: No. Maybe. Maybe I'll. Maybe I'll cut some of these. Okay. [00:48:29] Speaker A: Sorry I missed Ian. [00:48:30] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. I'll trim out some. [00:48:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:33] Speaker B: Okay. Your ideal Friday night. Wild party, small gathering, quiet night in. Something competitive. [00:48:38] Speaker A: Quiet night in. [00:48:39] Speaker B: Quiet night in. Okay, okay. Quiet night. Okay. You're more the class clown, the leader, the loyal friend or the creative one? [00:48:48] Speaker A: Loyal friend. [00:48:48] Speaker B: Okay. In arguments, are you passionate and loud, common, logical, avoid conflict or sarcastic? [00:48:59] Speaker A: I'm vindictive. For an argument, I got a win. [00:49:04] Speaker B: Bulldog, right? Your biggest fear. [00:49:13] Speaker A: Not having an impact on others. Not leaving an impact. How about that? [00:49:19] Speaker B: Okay, great, great, great. Actually, there's some questions on here that I already answered for you. [00:49:25] Speaker A: Wow, you already know me that well? [00:49:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Have you ever cried over a sports moment? [00:49:29] Speaker A: Absolutely, I have. [00:49:30] Speaker B: Okay, great. [00:49:31] Speaker A: Notre Dame losing to Michigan. Denard. [00:49:34] Speaker B: Actually, I thought I knew the answer to this question, but I don't think I do. Do you own any sports jerseys? [00:49:38] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:49:39] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:49:39] Speaker A: I've probably five at my house. [00:49:41] Speaker B: I never see you wear them. [00:49:42] Speaker A: I'm not a big wearing of Jersey kind of guy. [00:49:45] Speaker B: Oh, you just want to own them? [00:49:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:47] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:49:48] Speaker A: I wear them for Jersey days at school. [00:49:51] Speaker B: Would you travel to see a championship game? [00:49:54] Speaker A: No. No. [00:49:55] Speaker B: Why not? [00:49:56] Speaker A: I want to be in my house because they've been winning every time I've been at my house. [00:50:01] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:50:02] Speaker A: I don't want to do that. I don't want to be. I don't want to be around the other fans either. [00:50:06] Speaker B: Okay. [00:50:07] Speaker A: Like if you told me I could have went to the Notre Dame Ohio State game last year, I wouldn't have went. [00:50:12] Speaker B: That is probably bizarre. [00:50:15] Speaker A: Probably really weird. I'm in the minority in that for sure. [00:50:17] Speaker B: Okay. With these, do you find more exciting? [00:50:20] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:50:21] Speaker B: A buzzer beater, a walk off home run, A last second touchdown, an overtime goal. [00:50:28] Speaker A: Oh, overtime goals. Those are pretty awesome overtime goals. [00:50:32] Speaker B: Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, no kidding. Do you prefer a high scoring game or a. Actually that I already kind of have a question that's along those lines so we don't need to repeat. You're more a proponent of individual greatness or team chemistry? Team chemistry. [00:50:51] Speaker A: I like the chemistry. Like people knowing where each other are. [00:50:55] Speaker B: Okay. Which matters more, regular season excellence or playoff performance? [00:51:01] Speaker A: Playoff performance. [00:51:02] Speaker B: Playoff performance. Okay. [00:51:03] Speaker A: You would win accounts. [00:51:06] Speaker B: Right. Phone the rest in. Does weather matter to you as a fan of any sports? [00:51:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it does. [00:51:15] Speaker B: Okay. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. All right. [00:51:18] Speaker A: Like, I want it to be all over the place. [00:51:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:20] Speaker A: You think that you're a good team, you need to come win in the fall when it's or in the winter. [00:51:24] Speaker B: Are you superstitious? [00:51:28] Speaker A: Very. Very. I'm not. A little. [00:51:30] Speaker B: Not. Not even a little. Thank you. [00:51:35] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:51:35] Speaker B: Do you like attention? Everybody? [00:51:39] Speaker A: Can you say that one more time? [00:51:40] Speaker B: Everybody likes attention. I'm going to just put. I'm just write you any. [00:51:43] Speaker A: Say that one more time. [00:51:46] Speaker B: How do you handle disappointment? Do you get angry, sad? Move on quickly, make humor about it. [00:51:53] Speaker A: Stew on it for weeks on end? I do not do well with it. [00:52:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, that tracks. [00:52:05] Speaker A: Screw you. [00:52:06] Speaker B: Would you ever get a sports or team related tattoo? [00:52:11] Speaker A: No. [00:52:11] Speaker B: Okay. [00:52:13] Speaker A: Closest thing I could is not even. [00:52:15] Speaker B: From losing a bet. [00:52:16] Speaker A: Have it. No. Not putting myself in that situation. Would you name a dog named Golden? Come on. Golden Dome. [00:52:24] Speaker B: Okay. I was gonna say if. Would you name a pet after a player? [00:52:27] Speaker A: Yes. Count as Golden Tape. [00:52:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. That's right. Would you skip a wedding for a championship game? [00:52:33] Speaker A: Absolutely. You're an idiot for putting a wedding on a championship Sunday. [00:52:39] Speaker B: Could you ever date someone who roots for a rival? [00:52:41] Speaker A: I could. I'm okay with that. [00:52:43] Speaker B: Amazing. Let's stop the recording. [00:52:46] Speaker A: All right. We'll be right back. All right. And three hours later, we are back. That was. [00:52:57] Speaker B: That was disrespectful. Come on. [00:52:59] Speaker A: It was a long time. [00:53:01] Speaker B: I know, but I'm trying to make. [00:53:02] Speaker A: This good for you. [00:53:03] Speaker B: This is the Marshall Hesla show. Should we spot the spotlight you less often? Should I rethink the next time? [00:53:09] Speaker A: This should be a week, not weekly. I would say a yearly segment that's just about me. [00:53:15] Speaker B: But I need to do it a little bit faster. Really? Because you've got places to be. [00:53:20] Speaker A: Well, my dog is growling. If you can hear golden, he is a sponsor of the pod. [00:53:24] Speaker B: I hear Golden. Yeah, I think he's growling at your negativity. [00:53:28] Speaker A: Thank you. I'm sorry, Golden. All right. [00:53:30] Speaker B: We're spotlighting our dear friend and co host of the show, Marshall Haslaw. Listeners, there's some things that we know about him. As I mentioned during that exhaustive interview, I filled in some answers to him. I know Marshall fairly well over the years was one thing that we know about him. It's interesting. It's interesting that he hosts an NFL podcast. And one of the interesting things about this guy, you don't have a team. [00:53:59] Speaker A: You did not try and find a team for me. [00:54:02] Speaker B: So what we're doing, I did not. [00:54:04] Speaker A: Put that together until right now. [00:54:08] Speaker B: Long time listeners of this show will be entertained by the fact that one of the hosts does not have a NFL team that they consist consistently root for and the other hosts do. Ian and I, we do have our teams that we cheer for and have since childhood. Marshall's different. Marshall likes to go his own way. I respect that. It's not as though Marshall is against rooting for a team. We know very well that Marshall's a huge Notre Dame fan and. And also really likes the Chicago. Chicago Blackhawks randomly, totally. But not an NFL team. So I conducted this interview with the purpose of obtaining some data, you might say, on our dear friend and doing some analysis, a little bit of psychoanalysis and a little bit of regular analysis, and attempted to use that information in order to do a little matchmaking. Think of it. [00:55:16] Speaker A: Tell me what's behind Kurt number two. [00:55:18] Speaker B: Think of it like one of those interviews that you might do on a dating website where you fill out your profile. I don't know anything about those. [00:55:27] Speaker A: Tinder, Bubble hinge, grinder. [00:55:30] Speaker B: Don't know anything about any of them. Never use them. They weren't really a thing back many, many years ago when I was dating. Anyway, so you just filled out your profile and now this system. [00:55:42] Speaker A: I hope I got a couple matches. [00:55:44] Speaker B: Is generating a few matches. I've got three matches for you. And there was some evidence suggesting these could be one of these could be your team, the perfect match. And I want to know at the end of this, if you're going to. Which, which is the. Which way do you swipe? If it's. If it's good. If you want to. [00:56:06] Speaker A: I get to swipe back. [00:56:07] Speaker B: You get to swipe back. [00:56:08] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. So I'm on Hinge plus where I can see their profiles. [00:56:13] Speaker B: Now you. I don't understand how the dating things work, but it's in the zeitgeist. These things come up. So a swipe doesn't mean a marriage proposal. Swipe means, you know, let's. Let's see where this goes. See where this goes. [00:56:25] Speaker A: Marshall's team. [00:56:26] Speaker B: I see enough of a connection that I'm willing to explore. That's what we're looking for. Are you going to. Which now which way do you swipe? If it's a good and which way do you swipe? [00:56:35] Speaker A: It's bad. I'll get back to you on that. [00:56:37] Speaker B: You don't know. [00:56:37] Speaker A: It's been a minute. [00:56:39] Speaker B: Okay. I thought right. I thought I heard. Have heard that right is good. Right is yes and yes and left is no. But I might be wrong on that. Anyway. [00:56:48] Speaker A: Swipe left, bad. Swipe right, good. [00:56:50] Speaker B: Okay, good. Thank you. I was right. I was right. Okay. Don't know from personal experience. So I'm going to share with you my matches and the reasoning. We won't go into intense detail. If you would have given. If you hadn't rushed me, I would have just gone. [00:57:06] Speaker A: Now it's my fault for rushing you. [00:57:08] Speaker B: Now I could go longer. Okay, I'm going to give you. I'm going to give you the short version of my pitch for these matches. These teams, I should say I considered matching you with other sport pro sports teams outside of the NFL. Decided to limit it to the NFL this time. For now, let's start with our matches. Are you ready? [00:57:31] Speaker A: Are you going to give me what the team is or do I just get the profile? [00:57:35] Speaker B: I think I'll give you the team. Yeah. I mean, this isn't rehearsed. Maybe, like if I redid this, I would. Maybe I would do a little more fanfare, more dramatic. Yeah. Maybe have sound effects or something like that. Sorry. [00:57:46] Speaker A: It's okay. It's okay. Contestant number one. [00:57:52] Speaker B: This is option three. I'm going to go lowest match to. To best match. [00:57:58] Speaker A: Okay. [00:57:59] Speaker B: Lowest match of the still good matches. Okay. [00:58:02] Speaker A: All three before I determine my swipe. [00:58:05] Speaker B: I don't really. I'm not very opinionated on that. [00:58:08] Speaker A: Okay. Wait till the end. [00:58:10] Speaker B: I mean, I feel like there are some. You might just. You might. You might not even. Just like during the interview, you answered some questions before I even gave you all the options. You might pull one of those numbers on me this time and I respect that. [00:58:23] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:58:25] Speaker B: Option number one, The New Orleans Saints. The New Orleans Saints. I'm putting before you as an option. Okay. There's a few. There's a few possibilities here. You know, we've got the Catholic connection and we've got a gold team with Notre Dame adjacent branding, essentially. You could probably put on some of their stuff and people wouldn't know the difference between, you know, the gold and black and the golden navy blue. [00:58:51] Speaker A: You're insulting Notre Dame. [00:58:54] Speaker B: Sorry. Sorry, I apologize. But it's not a much of a leap in terms of your. Your style. Okay. You look good in the Notre Dame gear. [00:59:04] Speaker A: Feel good, play good. [00:59:04] Speaker B: I think you would look good in the Saints gear. And with that. With that little saint symbol and, you know, all of your, you know, Catholic history, I think now is not a bandwagon time, of course, to jump on this team. This is a ground floor opportunity. [00:59:18] Speaker A: I like this actually. More. More you're talking about. I like good rebuild, too. [00:59:22] Speaker B: I said that this is a rebuild. This is a team that has historically been very willing to, one, pay their players, which you love, often overpay their players, which I rarely say salary cap. [00:59:34] Speaker A: Doesn'T exist in the NFL, especially not. [00:59:36] Speaker B: For the New Orleans Saints. [00:59:37] Speaker A: You're right. [00:59:38] Speaker B: This is a team that has been always taking big swings, always trying to be relevant. You know, sometimes they hit, oftentimes they don't. But they're not one of those just like, will throw whatever on the field and call it good kind of teams. They try. [00:59:53] Speaker A: You're right. [00:59:53] Speaker B: They try and take swings. It's interesting. This is a town also. The New Orleans. [00:59:58] Speaker A: Don't sell me on the town. [01:00:00] Speaker B: Strikes me as a town that I think you would like. I don't know, there's such a music and food culture. I mean, you'd be. [01:00:06] Speaker A: There's a lot, though. [01:00:07] Speaker B: You'd be alongside Lil Wayne, man. [01:00:10] Speaker A: As a CO fan, you're losing me now. [01:00:14] Speaker B: I genuinely think it's kind of like that small town heart, big city soul sort of thing. [01:00:19] Speaker A: Wheezy F, baby. In the F stands for pardon. Go ahead. Who's team number two? [01:00:24] Speaker B: All right, team number two. The San Francisco 49ers commish commission. [01:00:34] Speaker A: How is that? Can I be a sponsor? Can I get sponsored like the commissions? Currently, he's like. [01:00:42] Speaker B: He's an influencer. He's a brand ambassador. [01:00:44] Speaker A: Thank you. [01:00:45] Speaker B: He's a lot of things. [01:00:46] Speaker A: He's the commission. [01:00:47] Speaker B: First and foremost, a dear friend. [01:00:49] Speaker A: Thank you. [01:00:51] Speaker B: San Francisco 49ers. Word number one, gold. [01:00:56] Speaker A: Gold. [01:00:57] Speaker B: Golden. [01:00:57] Speaker A: Like your dog is the gold, too. [01:00:59] Speaker B: How would you feel about rooting for. [01:01:02] Speaker A: A Golden Gate Bridge? [01:01:04] Speaker B: A. Yeah, a golden Golden State team, essentially. Why was that so hard to get out? This is a team playing a Notre Dame tight end. [01:01:19] Speaker A: George Kittle, legend, didn't play at Notre Dame. What? [01:01:23] Speaker B: Oh, let me fact check just a little bit. You must be mistaken. [01:01:29] Speaker A: Didn't play Notre Dame. [01:01:30] Speaker B: Okay. But he's still a great player and he's on the Niners. So I've got something for you, this is a team that is. Is really exemplified by being more about the Shanahan system than it about a few elite players. So it's much more of that. It's about the team mentality. [01:01:49] Speaker A: Big choker, though. [01:01:51] Speaker B: Oh, the choker thing? [01:01:53] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm. You know, me. That's a big part of my analysis. [01:01:56] Speaker B: I think that there's a lot of drama wrapped up, which you're not always opposed to. [01:02:02] Speaker A: What do you think about receiver problem? They got there might. They might cut a uk. [01:02:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. It's really weird. [01:02:09] Speaker A: It's weird. [01:02:10] Speaker B: How did this. [01:02:11] Speaker A: Thank you. That's all I needed. Thank you. Just keep that there. Chew on. [01:02:14] Speaker B: You'd be joining the likes of G Eazy, Metallica, MC Hammer and Carlos Santana as fans of this team. This is another team that I think is genuinely always shooting for Super Bowls. They're not settling for less. They're disappointed if they don't have the trophy at the end of the year. And that's kind of the mentality that you look for. That's the energy that you bring as a fan. If it's not a championship, we're out. [01:02:40] Speaker A: And so we're really looking like that. He likes watching Usec get like 6 yard runs. [01:02:48] Speaker B: I'll do respect to the Commish. He's. He's a. He's a lifelong fan. He's a life. He didn't choose the Niners because of these sorts of reasons. He has his own personal. He grew up in the area. But I think that they have a very storied history. I think they have a team with personality. I think they have a lot that could be. [01:03:09] Speaker A: Ready to hear contestant number three. I'm ready to hear it. [01:03:12] Speaker B: This was. [01:03:14] Speaker A: Man. [01:03:15] Speaker B: I actually like this as a fit, even though I don't think you're gonna swipe right on the Browns. [01:03:21] Speaker A: It's the Browns, isn't it? Really? [01:03:26] Speaker B: No. [01:03:26] Speaker A: Good grief. [01:03:27] Speaker B: The Browns? Are you serious? [01:03:29] Speaker A: I didn't know. I didn't know if you were doing like an anti algorithm where like all of a sudden, like, I don't know, some like, goth girl flies into my Tinder, you know? [01:03:38] Speaker B: For you, Paige, I'm lost. Let's move on to contestant number number three, the final and I think best fit for you. I think you were made to root for this team. [01:03:52] Speaker A: I'm just kidding. Sorry, I have to throw that into. [01:03:55] Speaker B: Be continued next week. I think Marshall, deep in your soul, you know you were meant to be a Philadelphia Eagles fan. [01:04:05] Speaker A: Oh, no. [01:04:09] Speaker B: You know it to be true. Search Your feelings. [01:04:15] Speaker A: Golden. Grab my heart. [01:04:17] Speaker B: Let that sink in. [01:04:20] Speaker A: No. Yes. Tell me why. [01:04:23] Speaker B: You know it's true. First of all, the color green, which you said you liked. They look good. They look good on the football field. This is a team. You'll be rooting alongside Questlove, meek Mill, Patti LaBelle and Kevin Hart. Yeah. [01:04:46] Speaker A: Bradley Cooper. [01:04:47] Speaker B: Bradley Cooper. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yes. [01:04:49] Speaker A: Duh. [01:04:49] Speaker B: He's in the commercial. [01:04:50] Speaker A: Serenity now. [01:04:52] Speaker B: This is the team. Well, we'll get to that because that's my main point. That fan base. This is the fan base that is always critical of their team no matter what. [01:05:02] Speaker A: And that's me. [01:05:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:05] Speaker B: Like, when are you satisfied? Well, if there's a championship, but otherwise no. Otherwise no. Like you. You just. You fit right into that crowd. It's always. It's also, I think, a very anti elite sort of fan base and city. [01:05:25] Speaker A: Kind of against you if you're not with us. [01:05:28] Speaker B: There is. There is a little bit of that. It's not like. It's not like the. The elite like New York or la. That's. I think that they're at a crossroads a little bit. I think the Eagles are an interesting time. And also I poo poo the whole bandwagon. Bogus nonsense. [01:05:47] Speaker A: I think that's what I mean. [01:05:49] Speaker B: I'm in it for the story. And I think a team is capable of winning me over when they put something interesting together. And you can kind of be endeared to a team through what they do and who they hire. They have a lot of big personality players, receivers, especially throughout their history. Think about the legacy. Think about the players that they have put on the field in the past, from the Donovan McNav's and the TOS and the Michael Vicks and many, many, many others. This is a team with. With the Reggie White and all kinds of great players throughout Is incredible history. Even in recent history. This. They've got a coach that you can complain about and a gm. [01:06:31] Speaker A: Can I ever. [01:06:32] Speaker B: A gm? Which you can. [01:06:34] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm mad at you. [01:06:35] Speaker B: A gm. This is the team which exemplifies that championship mentality. That team that says, no, we're not settling for anything less than Lombardi's. That's. And we're gonna go out there and do it. [01:06:49] Speaker A: I hate you. [01:06:51] Speaker B: So it's a green team with great players. You love those big personalities. You're there for the A.J. brown drama. You're all in for that. This is a team that's just embroiled in drama non stop. And you would sign up for it and eat it all. You get to complain about the coach. [01:07:09] Speaker A: All right, I get it. I get it. If your pitch has completed. [01:07:14] Speaker B: Okay, so there's something. There's a reasoning. Some of it's flimsy. Okay. And if you gave me more time. [01:07:20] Speaker A: I'd probably come up with more reasoning, though. [01:07:22] Speaker B: All right. [01:07:22] Speaker A: A lot of good. [01:07:23] Speaker B: Thank you. Thank you. You give me something that is enough. That is enough for me to say. [01:07:28] Speaker A: Just based on fandom, like the overall. [01:07:32] Speaker B: Fan experience that I think you look for and gravitate to. I think we've captured it with these three teams in some way. [01:07:39] Speaker A: You want to know where I'm swiping? [01:07:41] Speaker B: I'm curious. I'm already. Personally, I'm already pretty satisfied with how this has gone. And if you swipe left on all of them, I'm respecting that. But you see that there's some reasoning behind this and in some understanding of the fan that you are. [01:07:57] Speaker A: I'm swiping left Goodbye to the 49ers. [01:08:01] Speaker B: Okay. [01:08:02] Speaker A: See you later. [01:08:03] Speaker B: Do you want to elaborate? [01:08:05] Speaker A: I. I. Sorry, Commission. I'm a one. I'm a one person kind of guy, and I gotta be the team. I gotta be the fan of the team. I'm not sharing it so. [01:08:15] Speaker B: Largely because you don't want to have a comrade. [01:08:16] Speaker A: I want to share with the commission. Oh. I don't want that to be part of our friendship. I want our friendship to be authentic, and I don't want Brock Purdy to get in the middle of it. [01:08:27] Speaker B: This is a guy that you barely know who lives in North Carolina who listens to your podcast, and that's enough reason. [01:08:36] Speaker A: He likes my Strava post way too much for us to let that get in the middle of it. [01:08:40] Speaker B: He's a. Yeah, he's a cheerleader. I love it. [01:08:42] Speaker A: All right, okay. [01:08:43] Speaker B: That's fine. That's reason enough. You don't need to have a great reason. You just need to have a reason. [01:08:47] Speaker A: I'm currently swiping left on the Philadelphia Eagles. [01:08:51] Speaker B: Are you really? I considered it the best match. [01:08:53] Speaker A: It. It could be. Best match. [01:08:55] Speaker B: Spiritually, I think it's the best match. [01:08:57] Speaker A: But right now, it just doesn't have what I'm looking for. [01:09:01] Speaker B: Is it the bandwagon factor? [01:09:02] Speaker A: That's a big factor of it. It's had a lot of, you know, I'm not trying to date the. The girl who's like, you know, kind of has her comeuppance right now, like, oh, okay, everything's going great. I kind of Want to be on the ground for part of the why things are great. [01:09:17] Speaker B: Oh, interesting. [01:09:18] Speaker A: Leading me to my swipe. Right. Because if they can get back, there's only up from here. [01:09:30] Speaker B: Right. [01:09:31] Speaker A: Tyler Shuck. Which by the way, that's not how you pronounce his name. But it's how you pronounce his name. [01:09:36] Speaker B: The Eagles still have Ian Book, by the way. Last time. [01:09:39] Speaker A: Yeah, but you said George Kittle was a Titan. Notre Dame. And he went to Iowa. Whoops. Totally different. [01:09:45] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, I'll check myself. [01:09:46] Speaker A: Kurt Ference. [01:09:48] Speaker B: But the Saints still have rostered one of the all time greatest football players. [01:09:57] Speaker A: He was in broadcast. He was a New Orleans Saint. [01:09:59] Speaker B: I know. But currently rostered. They have. [01:10:02] Speaker A: Yes. [01:10:03] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:10:04] Speaker A: NFL player. He's done every position. [01:10:06] Speaker B: The Swiss army knife. Right. [01:10:07] Speaker A: He's the Brandon Ingenuity. That's an MLB reference. You've got him for NFL players. He's the Brandon Ninja of NFL players. [01:10:15] Speaker B: It's amazing. [01:10:16] Speaker A: I'll say. Like the reason I would pick Saints. I don't know their fandom. Like, I don't. [01:10:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:22] Speaker A: That division. Okay. Who's ever last somehow wins the next year. [01:10:32] Speaker B: Right. [01:10:32] Speaker A: So this is the first time in a while I could say that I'm pretty satisfied that the Bucks are going to be back to back champions for that. [01:10:40] Speaker B: The Panthers could take the division lead tonight. [01:10:42] Speaker A: You're right. Tonight you're right. But they aren't. [01:10:46] Speaker B: We don't have faith in that. But it's. It's getting interesting. Interesting. So a swipe white is just enough to. Yeah. Thank you. I thank you. Can't ever let that slide. Just enough to explore a little deeper. Let's see how many Notre Dame players are on the roster. Just out of curiosity. [01:11:03] Speaker A: Curiosity. [01:11:04] Speaker B: You know, let's. Let's. Let's just dig a little deeper. Okay. Let's go on a first date. [01:11:09] Speaker A: Do you know that? [01:11:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:11] Speaker A: Or I need to go do. [01:11:12] Speaker B: I'm saying this is. [01:11:13] Speaker A: This is. [01:11:14] Speaker B: This is the exploration. You know, this is the first Facebook you're gonna first date this team and see. Okay. Like what are the. What are the red flags here? What are the concerns? This is a team which I think is. Is very likely to change ownership. They're playing the fairly near future. [01:11:30] Speaker A: Hold on. They're playing against my Miami Dolphins. [01:11:35] Speaker B: Okay. [01:11:35] Speaker A: Okay. [01:11:36] Speaker B: Let's not complicate things. [01:11:37] Speaker A: Every week I say I'm bad at picking the Dolphins. So guys, let's skip to her upset. Pick of the week. Okay. I'm going with the New Orleans Saints. [01:11:48] Speaker B: The Saints owner has Said that when she dies, the proceeds of the sale will go to charity. [01:11:56] Speaker A: I don't like that. [01:11:59] Speaker B: Right. That's. It's got to go to some rich person instead. [01:12:02] Speaker A: Sell that. Sell, sell, sell. [01:12:05] Speaker B: The team will sell. Yeah, she's going to sell. It has to be charity. She's. No. This teams doesn't get sold to charity. But the proceeds from the sale. [01:12:12] Speaker A: I want the proceeds going. I want it. [01:12:14] Speaker B: That's billions of dollars that could change. [01:12:16] Speaker A: Lives in your team. [01:12:18] Speaker B: All right, this is a bad take. I don't want you on record saying this. [01:12:24] Speaker A: Let's get to our upset. [01:12:25] Speaker B: Okay. [01:12:27] Speaker A: The picks that you have not picked yet this week, we're going to talk about our locks. By the way, thank you. Thank you for that segment. Thank you for making it about me. I hope Ian right now, an hour and 13 minutes into this podcast is like, I'm so glad I wasn't there for this. Let's hear about your lock team. You guarantee will win. Who do you guarantee will win? Because my team. It's Denver. Denver's beaten Washington. That's not even question. [01:12:53] Speaker B: Wow. [01:12:54] Speaker A: No. [01:12:54] Speaker B: Jane Daniels is still out. [01:12:56] Speaker A: Dislocated elbow. [01:12:58] Speaker B: Brutal. [01:12:59] Speaker A: Marcus Mario to grow right in front of our. Our eyes. Let's see. [01:13:03] Speaker B: Is Justin Herbert still playing? [01:13:05] Speaker A: Justin Herbert's still playing 13. He's a 10 and a half point favorite right now. [01:13:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. The Raiders are just. But maybe they'll get that new OC bump. That's a. That's the thing, right? [01:13:21] Speaker A: I love you. Okay. [01:13:25] Speaker B: Attempted to take the Ravens over the Bengals, though. [01:13:30] Speaker A: As a lock. [01:13:30] Speaker B: As a lock. I like it. I. I like it. I don't lock in the Ravens very much. I don't think. [01:13:37] Speaker A: All right, how about upset pick of the week? You heard mine earlier. I was going to pick Chicago over Philly. [01:13:45] Speaker B: Right. Okay. [01:13:46] Speaker A: Actually, that could still work because I just scored Philly. [01:13:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:51] Speaker A: But I'm gonna go against the Dolphins and I'm picking the Saints. [01:13:55] Speaker B: Who? [01:13:55] Speaker A: I ne. I can't. No, I can't do that. I can't. I'm sorry. I'm picking the Bears as my upset. Sorry. [01:14:03] Speaker B: Don't throw away the points. [01:14:04] Speaker A: No, I. I'm going on a first date. But look, I'm not taking the Saints home. [01:14:14] Speaker B: Listeners, if we show up next week and the Saints got the dub. [01:14:19] Speaker A: I am not. I. Look, if that happens, I didn't pay for the first. [01:14:24] Speaker B: It will be a sign. [01:14:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:26] Speaker B: Okay. [01:14:28] Speaker A: Okay. Your upset pick, you guarantee that Vegas, they got it wrong when they picked this team. What do you got? [01:14:36] Speaker B: I Mean, looking at the list, I'm kind of feeling that maybe the Texans have found something and are going to continue to streak over the Colts, four. [01:14:44] Speaker A: And a half point underdogs. [01:14:45] Speaker B: I'll take it. [01:14:46] Speaker A: All right, lock it in. That's your upset. Anything else you got for the listeners today? [01:14:52] Speaker B: I'm thankful for everybody, every listener. I think the fantasy league, we're approaching playoffs very closely. Maybe another week or two, I would think. [01:14:59] Speaker A: I don't know. I've just been kicking ass lately. [01:15:01] Speaker B: Have you? [01:15:02] Speaker A: Haven't really been keeping track. We played a couple weeks ago. That must have been why we didn't do a pod last week. Because, you know. [01:15:08] Speaker B: What was that? You beat me, didn't you? [01:15:10] Speaker A: Yeah, and I beat you last week, too. Come on. [01:15:13] Speaker B: Yeah, and I think I had a really good week, too. [01:15:16] Speaker A: You did? [01:15:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:17] Speaker A: You did. [01:15:18] Speaker B: No, Jameer Gibbs just went off for me. This. [01:15:21] Speaker A: You're talking to the guy that had 163 last week. [01:15:23] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That's pretty incredible. You've got a. You've got a top tier team. I think you're the favorite to win it all. [01:15:29] Speaker A: No, that's Ian. He's nine and two. Currently going to be ten and two. Oh, wow. Just beat Rick, who's eight and three. [01:15:36] Speaker B: Oh, dang. Okay. [01:15:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:38] Speaker B: But I think I just got an easy dub this week. [01:15:40] Speaker A: Easy dove over Emily Reedsbo. [01:15:43] Speaker B: Yeah, sorry. [01:15:45] Speaker A: Not sorry. [01:15:46] Speaker B: All right, well, listeners, reach out. Let us know what you're thinking. Let us know if you have any other reasons that Marshall should consider or reconsider some of his swipes. Feel free to send your pitch our way. [01:16:00] Speaker A: Before we go, can you tell me who the fourth team would have been? Like contestant number four, did you have one that just is outside looking in? [01:16:11] Speaker B: It was more of a long shot. [01:16:12] Speaker A: Okay. [01:16:13] Speaker B: But there was a. There was a case to be made. [01:16:15] Speaker A: Oh, boy. [01:16:16] Speaker B: For the Green Bay Packers. [01:16:19] Speaker A: You're a big color guy. [01:16:21] Speaker B: Not just the colors. Not just the colors. This team is. That team has a lot going for it. That franchise has a lot. A lot. You know, the small story, Midwest town story. Tradition, of course. [01:16:33] Speaker A: Haven't really suffered, though. [01:16:34] Speaker B: All well rounded team. [01:16:36] Speaker A: Not a lot of suffering. I've suffered. [01:16:39] Speaker B: They have one very special element that will always endear them to me. Can you think of what that is? [01:16:45] Speaker A: They don't have an owner. [01:16:46] Speaker B: They don't have an owner. Yeah. The only pro sports team with no billionaire at the top calling shots. [01:16:54] Speaker A: All right, guys, Want to thank you for listening to the point after. Here's a little bit of our biggest news this past week. We didn't talk about the Rams and the Seahawks. That was a lot that Kyle or that Ian wanted to talk about. Oh gosh, somehow the Rams beat the Seahawks and the Rams beat the Bucks. They've looked great back to back weeks. The Bills, we talked about them, but we didn't talk about some tight games that went across the NFL. The Bears, they beat the Steelers with Rogers on the bench. The Pats beat the Bengals, another tight game. Lions survived the Giants. The Chiefs. Why do we not talk about the Chiefs and the Colts? Holy 29, right? Comeback overtime. [01:17:39] Speaker B: How many overtime games were there yesterday? [01:17:41] Speaker A: Jags and Cardinals yesterday. Tight game. Not a fun game to watch. I actually would if you would have gave me one of those. I'm swiping left immediately. [01:17:51] Speaker B: Cowboys talked about the season Miles Garrett is having. [01:17:56] Speaker A: Yeah, thanks guys.