Wk 10: 101 Dalmatians, or episodes

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to the Point after show with Kyle Maurer, Marshall heslaw, and Ian DeWitt. [00:00:05] Speaker B: This is the show where the guys. [00:00:07] Speaker A: Attempt to pick the winners of the. [00:00:08] Speaker C: Weekly NFL games, along with some healthy. [00:00:10] Speaker A: Debate about current topics. [00:00:12] Speaker B: Let's go, let's go, let's go. [00:00:14] Speaker C: I'm back. [00:00:14] Speaker D: 100 road. [00:00:16] Speaker B: I forgot you were going. [00:00:17] Speaker D: I'm alive. [00:00:17] Speaker B: We missed you, though. [00:00:18] Speaker C: Is this the official 100 or is this, like, the pity? [00:00:21] Speaker D: This is when we're celebrating. [00:00:22] Speaker B: This is like Lion King one and a half. Oh, have you seen Lion King one and a half? [00:00:29] Speaker C: Isn't that where he has a kid? [00:00:30] Speaker B: No, it's. Timon and Pumbaa. Do like their version of Lion King. [00:00:34] Speaker D: Okay, that's cute. [00:00:35] Speaker B: It's endearing. [00:00:36] Speaker D: Okay. [00:00:37] Speaker B: Okay, so it's not 100. Hate to tell you. [00:00:39] Speaker C: It's like 101 Dalmatians. We got all the blemishes. [00:00:43] Speaker D: I can't believe we've done a hundred episodes of this football podcast. [00:00:47] Speaker C: 101 episodes now. [00:00:49] Speaker B: 101. [00:00:49] Speaker D: Well, we haven't shipped it yet. [00:00:51] Speaker C: What? Well, we're the. When the listener is listening officially. [00:00:56] Speaker D: I don't mean to get particular. All right. [00:00:58] Speaker B: You know what it means. [00:00:59] Speaker D: I just want to be right. [00:01:00] Speaker C: You're right. For, like, 30 seconds, and then when it's in the world, you're wrong. [00:01:05] Speaker D: We're making a 30 second podcast. [00:01:06] Speaker B: I have a question. [00:01:07] Speaker C: See you guys. [00:01:08] Speaker B: You're. You're not a hipster that works in middle school like Ian and myself. [00:01:13] Speaker D: I'm as out of touch as you can find in my. [00:01:15] Speaker B: Know what it means to be shipped. Like, if they said, man. [00:01:17] Speaker C: Yes, yes, yes. [00:01:18] Speaker B: You guys are shipped. [00:01:20] Speaker C: This has got to be. This is easy. [00:01:22] Speaker D: That sounds negative. [00:01:23] Speaker B: No, no, hold on. It could be. Okay, well, explain, like, if I shipped you and Ashley. [00:01:31] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, no idea. [00:01:34] Speaker C: Shipping means, like, you're proposing the relationship. [00:01:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, oh, you guys are a relationship. [00:01:39] Speaker C: Like, you guys would make a good couple. [00:01:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:41] Speaker D: Oh, really? [00:01:42] Speaker B: Yeah. You ship somebody. [00:01:43] Speaker C: This is not actually new. [00:01:45] Speaker D: Oh, so you. It has to be two people that you. That get shipped. [00:01:48] Speaker B: Yeah. You're really lucky with the whole homeschool thing that you don't have to worry about, like, six, seven. [00:01:53] Speaker D: Somebody taught my kids that, and they're. They. They were doing it, and I don't know who taught it to them. I don't know where they learned it. [00:01:59] Speaker C: It's actually one of those. [00:02:00] Speaker D: I think it's just in the air. [00:02:02] Speaker B: Where I most am regretful of bringing everybody. [00:02:05] Speaker C: Like, this is like one of those phenoms that's happening where everyone's like. [00:02:09] Speaker B: And I'm just like, is that what they do? [00:02:12] Speaker D: That's what all the old people sound like. [00:02:14] Speaker C: Well, when people are doing it, that's literally Charlie Brown. It was pretty cringy. It's pretty cringy when, like, adults try to, like, make it funny. And I know sometimes it's like, oh, we're gonna make fun of it so that they stop doing it. [00:02:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:29] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:02:29] Speaker C: And I know that's, like, the point to make it cringy so the kids stop doing it, but that's not been effective on this one. And it's. It is kind of interesting. And I'm also at the point where I'm like, I don't even care. [00:02:41] Speaker D: Whatever. It's just funny to see kids laughing and smiling and cracking up about a. [00:02:45] Speaker B: Joke that they all get together, but they don't know. Most of the majority of them don't know what it's from. [00:02:51] Speaker D: Yeah, but that, like, I still am delighted by a clip of, like, an entire gymnasium full of kids watching a basketball game, and when they scored the 67th point, they just all rise to their feet and lose their minds. And it's just like. And it's. It's an exuberant moment, and I don't know how you can look at that and be like, oh, I hate this. Like, it's whatever. It's just kids having fun. And it is quite as harmless as it could get, you think? [00:03:15] Speaker C: But then it does wear on you. [00:03:18] Speaker D: I'm sure it does. I've seen the teacher reels where they're like, I made a mistake. I accidentally put a question on the test where the answer was 67, and I regretted it. [00:03:26] Speaker B: Big jokes about, like, 68. Is really mad that he got skipped when, like, we were in school. 69. [00:03:34] Speaker D: I know. I've seen it. [00:03:35] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, let's hit our question of the day with 100 episodes under our belt. What's the one episode or the guest or the debate that's. [00:03:49] Speaker D: Sorry, it's a dad joke. Bottle opener. [00:03:51] Speaker B: That was really awkward. What's the one episode guest or debate that still makes you laugh or cringe when you think about it? Does anyone got a great answer that they want to lead off with? [00:04:03] Speaker C: Still regularly reflect back on the Lamar Jackson debates. Yeah, we had early on where you guys were both like, you're insane. And I was like, I remember you yelling. [00:04:18] Speaker D: All I'm saying is he's. I think he's an average passer. [00:04:23] Speaker C: I stand by that. [00:04:24] Speaker B: For back then now he's moving the goal post again. [00:04:29] Speaker D: Yeah, for back then. [00:04:30] Speaker C: Okay. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not saying I would take that take now. [00:04:33] Speaker B: I'm just saying take a shove. [00:04:36] Speaker D: Lamar has played a role in this pod. Like, I mean, unsurprisingly, like, he's just been like an important figure in the league. You can like, pretty much ever since we started, you can't really like have been into NFL and not like be following Lamar's story. But I think he's come up so much in our conversation. There have been times where I have dreaded the pod because I knew what was about to where I looked. I'm like, oh, man, there was. I'm wait, I know there's going to be a take from G this week and I'm going to have. Because whatever. Lamar lost a game or something, A playoff game or something, and here it comes here. I'm going to have to deal with this. [00:05:18] Speaker C: We had just done a pod. I remember this where we had a little bit of a Lamar bit debate where I said, I just think Lamar is an average passer and he's a run first quarterback and both of you are like, nonsense. This is preposterous. Blah, blah, blah. And that Monday night football game, he was like running primarily all over the place. I mean, he had like a hundred plus yards. [00:05:45] Speaker B: Sounds like Monday nights are good for your takes. [00:05:47] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:05:50] Speaker B: Backers suck. My, My number one thing is Ian's clip of saying the thing about Tony Romo. [00:05:56] Speaker C: I still can't. I still do not know when that occurred. Just that it happened. And it's like a fever dream every. [00:06:05] Speaker B: Time I hear that Tony Romo clip is top five all time for me. [00:06:09] Speaker D: I feel like back in the day we were trying to bring some content. We worked hard to bring some stuff. [00:06:14] Speaker B: We literally would make fun of each other afterwards and be like, that wasn't a take. It's called hot takes for a reason. I know. Just like every week we just tried. It was like a pissing con. [00:06:22] Speaker D: We were trying to do that. I mean, we're in year five. [00:06:25] Speaker B: Like, not worse, hottest now. [00:06:27] Speaker D: Like, I feel like we're better at podcasting, but we also show up less prepped than we used to. I think we work to prep a little more. Maybe there was a. There was a season where I basically, I was employed, but I had no work. And so I basically did point after prep all the time. I could spend an entire Monday prepping for the podcast. I had no assignment. I worked for a company that Just got acquired and I basically had no work to do. [00:06:52] Speaker B: Heck yeah. [00:06:53] Speaker D: And I spent the whole scene, Ian. [00:06:54] Speaker B: And I do the same thing once a week. [00:06:56] Speaker D: I was well prepped then. Now, now that's not the case now. [00:06:58] Speaker C: That Toronto, like that Toronto trip is done. Oh gosh. [00:07:02] Speaker B: I actually do. Yeah. [00:07:03] Speaker C: I actually have like a full like free time sometimes. [00:07:07] Speaker B: Let's, let's get to some NFL this week. Let's talk from our favorite bench player. I mean person that keeps the players on his bench, Tim DeWitt. Tim DeWitt writes in. What'd you think of Dan Campbell calling offensive plays this week, guys? [00:07:23] Speaker C: Yeah, he was. I loved it. It was the best is the best the offense has looked in a long time. [00:07:29] Speaker D: I hope his game management doesn't suffer because he's distracted now. [00:07:33] Speaker C: So there, there was. If you listen to a lot of his like media and like you kind of pay attention. He doesn't actually want to be doing it. He basically. He never threw Morton under the bus, right? He never threw him under the bus. But it like he did kind of state like we've had eight games to evaluate. I think it's just time for a change. And I think he was right. I actually was glad he was proactive because anybody that had been watching the Lions, despite having some high scoring games, could still see signs of like the offense being like, what are they doing? Like there was. We like Montgomery specifically and JMO were wildly being misused. If I was Montgomery, I would actually be pissed the way that he was being played. And it took one game of Dan Campbell calling the plays and it was like, it was like the offensive last year, I mean they scored at will against the Commanders pretty much whenever they got. It was actually whenever they got the ball, they scored. So I, I think it's going to probably be for the long run at least or they're going to have a really big test next week against the Eagles. [00:08:51] Speaker B: I like Tim's next question. A little bit more thoughts on the Seahawks and Darnold. He's been lighting it up. I think we have our clear team who's an echelon above others. [00:09:05] Speaker C: You think the Seahawks are above everybody else? [00:09:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:11] Speaker D: Interesting. [00:09:12] Speaker C: That is. That is. That is a hot take. [00:09:15] Speaker B: I think they're the best team in their division. I think they're better than the Rams. [00:09:18] Speaker C: Oh, I, I don't, I don't know if I'd take that the. I love this though, because they are playing each other this week. I don't know if I'm ready to say that about The Seahawks. [00:09:31] Speaker B: Do you want to make them your lock and I'll make them mine? [00:09:35] Speaker C: No. [00:09:35] Speaker B: You just said you were really confident, though. [00:09:37] Speaker C: I didn't say real confident. I did not say those words. [00:09:41] Speaker B: Let me roll. [00:09:42] Speaker C: I said. I. I said I like the Rams better. Like, I think the Rams are a better team. [00:09:47] Speaker B: Let's put our money where our mouth is. [00:09:49] Speaker C: No, I don't. I'm not a gambler, and neither should you be. Have you seen how rigged the other sports are? [00:09:55] Speaker B: Awful. [00:09:56] Speaker D: Awful. [00:09:57] Speaker C: It is only a matter of time. [00:09:59] Speaker B: Before you say matter of time like it hasn't already happened and we just don't know about it. [00:10:04] Speaker C: We do. I know what's happening. I know what's happening. [00:10:08] Speaker D: Oh, wow. Okay. Spill, spill. [00:10:11] Speaker B: Go ahead. [00:10:12] Speaker C: Well, I mean, I'm not saying, like. Yeah, I mean, I don't. [00:10:14] Speaker B: I just noted my bones. [00:10:16] Speaker C: But I know when the Chiefs don't get a single penalty, I guess I'll. [00:10:20] Speaker B: Say a majority of the time I'm noticing those Seahawks because I have Jackson, Smith, and Jigba on my team for fantasy, and I just. I'm like, wow. Every week it's like they do 20 plus. [00:10:31] Speaker C: They are. They are good. [00:10:34] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:10:34] Speaker D: Their defense is fantastic. Their defense is elite in the league right now. [00:10:39] Speaker C: Their entire team is fantastic. Oh, man. All right. I guess I'm going to get to this point a lot sooner than I thought I was going to. Is. It's. I have a hard time reading a team like the Seahawks, and for that matter, I'm going to include the Colts, the Patriots, and the Broncos in this conversation. All of these teams are leading their divisions right now. [00:11:08] Speaker B: Sure. [00:11:09] Speaker C: Which is actually, I. Kind of impressive. [00:11:12] Speaker B: I'm excited. [00:11:13] Speaker D: Colts, Patriots, Broncos, and Steelers. You didn't say. [00:11:17] Speaker C: Because the Steelers do definitely do not qualify in this conversation as a good team. [00:11:21] Speaker D: Okay. Okay. Carry on. Just being honest. Yeah. [00:11:25] Speaker B: He's talking about teams we should talk about more frequently. [00:11:27] Speaker C: These are. [00:11:28] Speaker B: Should we talk about the Steelers? [00:11:30] Speaker D: I'm understanding. But this. It is still fun. This snapshot at this point in the season, seeing the division leaders. What. [00:11:36] Speaker C: We would. [00:11:36] Speaker D: None of us would have picked any of those corrections. [00:11:39] Speaker C: Correct. And it's not that some of these teams are leading by, like, it. So the Seahawks are actually technically tied with the Rams right now, and they win the tiebreaker probably through some weird thing that I don't actually know off the top of my head. I think they're the only one, though, that is leading their division just through a tiebreaker, because the other ones have at least one or two games up on their opposing ones. Patriots. If we're going to talk about a team that's actually good, I'm ready to talk about the Patriots, though. [00:12:13] Speaker D: Okay. [00:12:14] Speaker C: The Patriots have actually, I think, had more prove it games than. Than the Seahawks have. [00:12:19] Speaker B: We joked about the Patriots having an awful schedule. They have had the old lady going up the stairs on her remote scooter being carried up because it's not that difficult. [00:12:29] Speaker C: So they have had an easier schedule. But they have also. They did just play up against a pretty good Tampa Bay Buccaneers team and beat them quite soundly. [00:12:40] Speaker D: Okay. [00:12:41] Speaker C: And then they had our. So already beaten the Bills, which I think everybody agrees. Like, the Bills are still. Despite their, like, frauds. Whatever. They are frauds. They're still. They're still probably going to end up in the playoffs, though. [00:12:56] Speaker B: They're still excited for the Chiefs and Bills to play on the road. [00:12:59] Speaker C: They might have to. [00:13:00] Speaker B: It's not. [00:13:01] Speaker C: They will because I think they're too far behind in their division. The Bills especially are in trouble because they're 2D games down on the Patriots, plus an extra because they lost against the Patriots. So it's effectively three games down on them. [00:13:17] Speaker B: And that Dolphins game, my God, so bad. Make sense of that. [00:13:23] Speaker C: I can't, so I don't want to. [00:13:25] Speaker D: The only sense I can make of it is a lot of these great teams drop one stinker per season, and that's the Bills. [00:13:31] Speaker B: Is this the thing Ian was talking about when he's like, he knows something that's going on in the NFL that we don't know about? [00:13:35] Speaker C: The Bills have. [00:13:36] Speaker D: No, it's just. It's just they have a history of this. Once a year. They just don't show up. [00:13:42] Speaker B: But this is the jets with Zach. [00:13:43] Speaker C: But they lost to the Falcons, too. [00:13:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Falcons are like a really weird, like, really good one week and then awful for two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:13:54] Speaker D: The Falcons have. They have a ceiling that is higher than a lot of bad teams. You know, when Drake London and Bijan Robinson are on their game and they don't. They don't shoot themselves in the foot and lose a game. [00:14:04] Speaker C: For sure. [00:14:05] Speaker D: The Falcons can hang. They can put up points. [00:14:07] Speaker C: I agree. They almost took down the Colts. [00:14:09] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:14:10] Speaker C: Which is another team on this little list. And like all of these, by the way, I've. I've kind of had this conversation where it's like, I have a hard time figuring out whether these teams are legit or not, because a lot of them, the. All of those teams, Colts, Patriots, Seahawks and Broncos are beating up on Relatively bad teams. I mean, the. The sea. Let's just use the Seahawks, because that's the team that we were just talking about. [00:14:37] Speaker D: Are there just a lot of bad teams? [00:14:39] Speaker B: I. I don't know, but play that game right now. I'm up for it. Kyle, you want to just start naming teams before we. [00:14:46] Speaker C: Before we do that? The. The Seahawks have beaten the Cardinals, which suck. The Commanders, which have been kind of in free fall. And I think Jaden, that time. They just beat the commanders last week and Jaden Daniels was out. [00:14:59] Speaker B: Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were going from week one on. [00:15:01] Speaker C: The Texans. I don't know what to make of the Texans. They're kind of a weird team. [00:15:06] Speaker B: Texans have one game over, 26 points in the last, like, 10 weeks. And it was this past week when Davis mills put up 28 points in the fourth quarter. [00:15:16] Speaker C: Okay, so they're bad is what you're telling me. [00:15:18] Speaker D: Their offense is quite bad. [00:15:19] Speaker B: And he has. [00:15:21] Speaker C: So, like, that's not. That's not that big of a deal then. The Jaguars are really an odd team, too. They started off so hot, and now they're kind of falling apart. [00:15:30] Speaker B: That coach can't wait to get rid of Trevor Lawrence. [00:15:33] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:15:34] Speaker C: Yeah. That team is, like, weird. They. Look, they. The Seahawks lost to the Bucks, and then they won against. They lost to the Bucks. [00:15:44] Speaker B: Okay. [00:15:45] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:15:45] Speaker C: And then it was just. You gave me a look. And then they lost to the 49ers in week one, and they got games that get wins against the Steelers and the Saints and the Cardinals again. [00:15:57] Speaker B: So, like. [00:15:57] Speaker C: Yeah, there's not any team there that's that impressive, if we're being honest. And the teams that are, you could argue, are impressive. The. The Niners, they lost to and the Bucks, they lost to. [00:16:11] Speaker D: Yeah. As far as I'm concerned, when you put all those together, if you pick one individually, it's not that impressive. You beat a. You beat a bad team. But if you collect all those together. [00:16:21] Speaker C: Correct. [00:16:21] Speaker D: And you beat all of them, that is impressive, even if they are all bad. [00:16:25] Speaker C: So this is where I sometimes find myself in a conundrum, because I'm like, I agree with you that I do think the consistency of beating bad teams means you are clearly a good team. [00:16:39] Speaker D: I think it's like, I'll take that. [00:16:41] Speaker C: But how good are you? I have, like, a hard time. And this is where, like, the schedule thing for me is, like, I have a hard time really knowing. Are you for real? Until they have, like, a game where I'm like, all right, now you're going up against, like, a good team, like, because that's why, like, the Patriots, they've gone up against the Bills, which most people would consider a good team, and they went up against Tampa Bay, two teams last year that won their divisions and were in the playoffs, so. [00:17:11] Speaker B: Right. [00:17:12] Speaker C: I think the Patriots have definitely proven they are a threat in the AFC right now. [00:17:17] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:17:17] Speaker C: 100% they are a threat. [00:17:19] Speaker B: Sure. But I also look at, like, how they beat teams, like, put up 28 points. 28 nothing through the first quarter. [00:17:26] Speaker D: That's. [00:17:27] Speaker B: That's a riddle. [00:17:28] Speaker C: And what. What the Seahawks did to the Cardinals was like, oh, it was a slaughter. I mean, it was a. They would. [00:17:35] Speaker B: I think it could have been 75. Nothing easy. [00:17:38] Speaker C: 100% agree. And that's where I'm like, there's clearly this team has got something going. [00:17:44] Speaker D: Like, and that's how they looked against. What was it? The. The commanders the week before. Yeah, same thing. [00:17:48] Speaker C: And they. They've looked good. Great. Which is why I'm, like, I'm inclined to agree that I do think they are a. A pretty good team right now. [00:17:57] Speaker B: Right. [00:17:57] Speaker C: Would I put them at the top of the nfc? I don't know if I'm ready to do that. Only because I think over the last several years, the Rams have earned more of that pedigree for me, and I think the way the Rams are playing on both sides of the ball is as good, if not better than what the Seahawks are doing. [00:18:21] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah. I have more trust. [00:18:23] Speaker C: I. I do. And I do have more trust in that team, which is why I'm not ready to say that the Seahawks are better just because it's like, yeah, you blew out a couple bad teams. Like, good, good. Keep. Now keep doing that. [00:18:36] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:18:36] Speaker C: Right. And that's kind of what I want out of all of these teams. [00:18:39] Speaker D: We could see a coach of the year campaign for Mike McDonald this season if it's not Shane. Second. [00:18:45] Speaker C: We know. The curse of the coach of the year. [00:18:48] Speaker D: We know. We know. [00:18:49] Speaker C: I feel like one of them just got fired. [00:18:51] Speaker D: A lot of Seahawks talk. Thane, this goes out to. Out to you. We don't. We don't talk about that team all that much. Were we responding to something? [00:18:59] Speaker B: Tim DeWitt. Tim, thoughts on the Seahawks and. [00:19:01] Speaker D: Oh, thank you. [00:19:02] Speaker C: The Broncos are another team. They're eight. They are, I think, the number one seed if the regular season ended right now. [00:19:10] Speaker D: I'm not buying the Broncos. I'm not there. I'm selling on the Broncos. [00:19:15] Speaker B: Can we pause on that? Because I want to Finish up your Rams point also writes in Matt Stafford will win MVP if he keeps us up due to 37. Is having statistically the best year of his career in the last four games. Thousand yards passing, 13 touchdowns, 0 interceptions, 120 pass rating better stat for you ready? Tim DeWitt. I'm taking your stat. Turn it up. In the last six games, he's 20 touchdowns and zero interceptions. In the Super bowl winning quarterback season, Jim McMahon threw 19 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. [00:19:51] Speaker D: Yeah, I agree. Like, I'm on board. Like, I feel like if the voting. [00:19:55] Speaker B: Were cast today, he'd win. [00:19:57] Speaker D: I'd probably vote for Matt Stafford. I put Matt Stafford as the. [00:20:01] Speaker C: I stand by the fact that the only way a running back is ever going to get it is if they break the 2,000 yard mark. They have to do it. They will not give it to a running back. And there is enough proof of this because even in a down year with quarterbacks and Saquon Barkley was having the year he was And I think McCaffrey the year before that on down years for quarterbacks, they were still winning it. And I think the year McCaffrey was up, he was very close, just like Saquon was. I think Saquon got closer though. But he, he still couldn't win it. And I just don't think. Unless if I'm like the voters, I think that is actually their threshold. It's like if you want a running back to win this, you got to do something. No running back is done. You got to hit the 2000 mark. [00:20:50] Speaker B: Plus, it's just. [00:20:52] Speaker D: And that's tough when the league leader in passing yards is your quarterback. Like, you can't win an MVP when you're competing with a teammate for the same conversation, though not really effectively. We're not. I don't. Nobody's putting Indiana Jones in the conversation for mvp, but he's still having the best year of his career. He's still leading the league in passing yards, playing great. [00:21:17] Speaker B: It's. [00:21:17] Speaker D: It's hard. It makes it difficult for you to make the argument that a single player carries that team to victory. And that's kind of the conversation you need to have. Where do we think if like Matt Stafford's backup got in there, if they would be an electric offense or is Stafford really the key there? [00:21:34] Speaker C: I think he's the key right now. [00:21:36] Speaker B: Could say the same thing about Indiana Jones. Go put Richardson. [00:21:42] Speaker D: I'm curious what would happen. [00:21:44] Speaker B: We saw what would happen. What would happen? [00:21:46] Speaker C: They look terrible, right? Funny we mentioned those two players, but we have not mentioned the actual betting on favorite. Do you know who it is? [00:21:56] Speaker B: Is it Mahomes? It's Mahomes. [00:21:57] Speaker D: It's gotta be. [00:21:58] Speaker C: No. Drake May. [00:22:01] Speaker D: What? [00:22:02] Speaker C: As of like today he was the betting odds favorite for at least in terms of Vegas. Maybe it's changed. I could be wrong. [00:22:08] Speaker D: I know he's in the conversation and he deserves to be good. [00:22:12] Speaker C: Pretty sure he was up there as one of the betting odds favorites to win. [00:22:17] Speaker D: Well, that's fair. He's got. He has an inferior supporting cast and. [00:22:22] Speaker B: Being the MVP front runner right now I got Stafford at plus 260. And where's my plus 275. [00:22:29] Speaker C: Which one is that on DraftKings. DraftKings. Okay. I think they were yours. [00:22:33] Speaker D: I like Stafford supporting cast more than Drake Mays for what it's worth. And that works in Drake's favor. [00:22:41] Speaker C: That would be. I think Drake May has less. [00:22:44] Speaker D: Yeah. And I also like his chances of getting a one or two seed based better than I like Staffords actually. And that's kind of a prereq. You have to be the quarterback for the one or two seed. [00:22:56] Speaker C: Basically. [00:22:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:57] Speaker C: The. I would agree that. I think the Patriots have an easier one because they do have a softer schedule. They will reap the benefit of that. And they've already beaten the bill, actually. Now I really want to see what the Patriots schedule looks like down the street. [00:23:12] Speaker B: It's easy. [00:23:13] Speaker C: It's got. It's. It's got to be because they were the four. The fourth like team in the division, weren't they last year? Was that Miami or was it the Jets? Yes. That division sucks. [00:23:24] Speaker B: It's a riddle. It's a riddle trying to figure that out. [00:23:27] Speaker C: So they have the jets, the Bengals. I mean the Bengals have absolutely no defense. [00:23:34] Speaker B: Trash. [00:23:35] Speaker C: Which is so funny by the way. The Bengals with Joe Flacco, technically they have been more productive with Flacco there than they have been with Joe Burrow. Is that crazy? [00:23:48] Speaker D: I don't know. I. [00:23:49] Speaker C: It could be just a. I don't know. [00:23:51] Speaker B: I'm falling on the sword right here. You ready? I'm done with Burrow. I'm over him. [00:23:57] Speaker D: Really? [00:23:58] Speaker C: I feel like Joe. [00:23:59] Speaker B: Cool. I'm calling him Joe injured from now on. [00:24:03] Speaker C: Wow, that is a problem. [00:24:05] Speaker D: Yep. [00:24:05] Speaker C: He's only had one, I think full. Oh he's had two. A couple of healthy seasons. But yeah. Only other than that super bowl year where he got them there, that's really been the only one that's they've done that was impressive. [00:24:18] Speaker D: And he became the darling of everyone. [00:24:20] Speaker B: Yeah. I got. [00:24:21] Speaker D: I got tired of him pretty fast. [00:24:22] Speaker C: Pretty close to winning them that super bowl too. [00:24:25] Speaker B: I'm just very close. I'm over the hype. [00:24:28] Speaker C: Do you want to know? [00:24:29] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:24:30] Speaker C: I'm over. [00:24:30] Speaker D: I'm with you. [00:24:31] Speaker C: Josh Allen. [00:24:33] Speaker D: All right. [00:24:33] Speaker B: Bills frauds. [00:24:36] Speaker C: He's a faker, baby. Yeah. [00:24:39] Speaker B: You gave us this little, ah, soliloquy about him. [00:24:42] Speaker C: I. I hate the flops. And he is the king of the flops. There was a video going around from this past week where someone, like, lightly tapped his head and he, like, exaggerated the out of it. And I was like, get that out of here. Go back to your premier soccer league with that crap. [00:25:03] Speaker B: Wow. [00:25:04] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm gonna throw major shots fired. Europe. Okay. [00:25:09] Speaker B: Wow. We're an anti Europe. [00:25:11] Speaker D: No. [00:25:11] Speaker C: I never said anti Europe. It was just soccer. It's just. That's a thing. [00:25:16] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:25:16] Speaker C: They like to flop. [00:25:17] Speaker B: He's like. Isn't it? Our next take comes from Eric Gianuncio. Rashid Shahid got traded to the Seahawks. And what was a really solid move by them. But when it was actually almost unnoticed. Why do you think the NFL trade deadline doesn't carry the same energy as the MLB and the NBA trade deadlines? Also, what is the greatest trade you have personally seen in the NFL? [00:25:46] Speaker D: Stafford golf. I think that's up there. That ranks high for me as the top trade that altered the course of those franchises so dramatically. That's a very marked point in time where both teams ended up with what they wanted and achieved greater success than they had prior. [00:26:05] Speaker C: I don't know if I have one better, but I do think I have one that is maybe underrated. Jon Gruden getting traded to the Bucks. [00:26:14] Speaker D: Whoa. Okay. [00:26:15] Speaker C: As a coach and then he going to the super bowl that year against his former team. [00:26:23] Speaker D: I totally forgot that happened. [00:26:24] Speaker C: Isn't that crazy? And I think it's because you don't typically see a coach getting traded. You typically think of players. [00:26:33] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:26:34] Speaker C: I just think it's very interesting. I don't think we'll ever see anything like that again. And I think that's why I would probably say that's the most memorable for me. [00:26:41] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:26:42] Speaker C: The Jared Goff and the Matt Stafford one is obviously it's got to be up there. And if the Lions ever win the super bowl with Goff, I think it would go down in history as one of the greatest trades of all time. [00:26:55] Speaker D: I agree. I agree. You could argue that even now. [00:26:58] Speaker C: You could. [00:26:58] Speaker D: They made it to conference championship. Like they've achieved already. Greater success than the entire franchise ever has before. [00:27:05] Speaker C: Turned it around with that trade. [00:27:07] Speaker D: It's incredible. [00:27:08] Speaker C: And the Rams got a Super bowl win. They've. And they've looked competitive with Stafford ever since too. [00:27:14] Speaker B: I think I'm going to say McCaffrey. [00:27:16] Speaker D: Okay. [00:27:17] Speaker C: Okay. [00:27:17] Speaker B: That was, that was a big one. That was a mad. That was like playing Madden. [00:27:23] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:27:23] Speaker B: Like, that was so much fun. [00:27:26] Speaker C: That was at the time of the Niners. I think they're prime. [00:27:31] Speaker B: I want to say one that was like drama filled was Jimmy G getting traded from the Pats. Because at the time there was a lot of behind the scenes things going on about who was pulling the strings about Jimmy G getting traded. [00:27:46] Speaker D: Right. [00:27:46] Speaker B: I just more like the, the drama of that than I do the actual player movement, the, the player impact. Obviously the golf and Stafford one is huge. But was that in. That was an in season? [00:27:57] Speaker D: No, no. [00:27:58] Speaker C: That was awesome. [00:27:59] Speaker B: Looking at an in season, McCaffrey to me is like number one. [00:28:03] Speaker D: That's a great one. [00:28:04] Speaker C: That is a good one. [00:28:05] Speaker B: So. But I, I will say that I think that the NFL doesn't have that because during the season it is just a week to week league. Like it owns the space. Like, it's almost hard to look at like a difference in like ratings of like a 20.2 compared to a 20.1, like every week is just so high for them that comparing the MLB and the NBA, like they're long seasons that are drawn out with many, many games and this is like kind of their halfway point where they're like, all right, we can get some excitement up about selling teams or selling fans the hope of what could be their team in the future. [00:28:51] Speaker C: And trades, especially with like NFL in season, I feel like are hard. [00:28:56] Speaker B: They're hard. They're not a lot because I, I'll say, like you don't really know the physical nature of like what these players are going through and where they're at. [00:29:06] Speaker C: It was like the Lions got criticized because their O line is getting banged up a little bit and they were. [00:29:11] Speaker B: Like, some say they can't afford to lose anymore. [00:29:13] Speaker C: Well, yeah, and they were. There was a lot of criticism. It's like, why aren't you guys doing anything at the trade deadline to get like an O line guy in here? And it's like, because every team that's got a good O line player is not going to get rid of them. So you're just picking up some guy off of like a second string third stringer already when you already have some of those guys playing. Why Would you want to go and trade away resources for that? [00:29:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, you could say that for every reason why anybody would trade. Anybody but you. [00:29:42] Speaker C: I just. You don't really see a lot of linemen getting traded. [00:29:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:49] Speaker D: I don't know. [00:29:50] Speaker C: Good ones. [00:29:51] Speaker B: I'm. [00:29:51] Speaker D: I'm disappointed that it isn't more active because I think that it occurs late enough in the season that by now we know who's contending and who's looking to next year. You should know at this point in the season, we've played how many games? 10. [00:30:06] Speaker B: There are 12 games in the NBA season. They're already talking about the Sacramento Kings laying. Getting all four of their top four players moved. Yeah, well, there are 12 games in the season. I was hearing reports of that. So, like the NFL? Absolutely. [00:30:19] Speaker D: Yeah. Pistons leading the Eastern Conference, by the way. [00:30:22] Speaker C: I think maybe I. There's an. An easy answer. Here is a lot of these coaches, they need wins to keep their job. Look at day ball. Day ball is a good example of a guy. I mean, he blew four games. Here's a guy who doesn't know how to close out a game in the fourth quarter. Absolutely atrocious. [00:30:46] Speaker B: He's up to Russell Wilson in there. Give him a break. [00:30:48] Speaker C: He is a perfect example of. I'm glad, by the way, they fired him. And not just because. [00:30:55] Speaker D: Wow, you're bringing it today. [00:30:57] Speaker C: You are not. [00:30:58] Speaker B: You missed that mic last week. [00:31:01] Speaker D: Right? Ian's making up for lost time. [00:31:03] Speaker C: I'm going to give crap to Kevin o' Connell for marching Carson Wentz out there, then day ball deserves equal, if not more crap for marching Jackson Dart out there when he's been evaluated for a concussion for four freaking times. [00:31:20] Speaker D: Right. [00:31:21] Speaker C: And you're telling me not one of those came back positive? [00:31:24] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:31:25] Speaker C: You're literally yelling at the tent to get him back out there because you had to march Russell Wilson out there for one freaking play. Yeah, like, dude, you. He. That was a man trying to save his job, and he was willing to throw out a sacrificial lamb to do it. [00:31:43] Speaker D: I'm getting New Yorker vibes from you right now. Like, are you. Are you. You really bringing. Yeah. Let's talk more Giants football. [00:31:50] Speaker C: The table. Get them out of here. [00:31:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Our next take comes from the one and only Kamish. [00:31:57] Speaker A: All right, guys, this time, no opening music, no whistle, Just me. A little bit introspective, if you will. [00:32:08] Speaker D: Are you ready? Here we go. [00:32:12] Speaker A: To be fair, Marshall's got no hair. Kyle's crunching stats like he just don't care. And I'm out here still rocking the red and gold flare A hundred shows came and one more done now 101 we're still having fun From Monday takes to Sunday prayers the mic's still hot, the crowd still stares it's banter not a sermon or a chant Just a crew spitting truth no rants we can't we laugh, we groan and throw some shade over calls that refs should have never made Niners sitting pretty black and blue defenses hitting hard like they always do CMC and beast mode Kittle with the grit Purdy back soon yeah we be lit a wish, a prayer A weekly air where fandom meets a mic and a spare chair from trash talk to truth bombs we declare it's the point after show and to be fair we're still built different out here. There you go, my friends. Looking forward to the next 101 episodes. [00:33:15] Speaker D: Play on. [00:33:18] Speaker C: Wow. [00:33:19] Speaker B: To be fair, no hashtag there. Commissary. We set you up. That was amazing. We be lit made me giggle. [00:33:27] Speaker C: I. I took the two be fairs a little personally there, but it's part of the show. I appreciate it. It literally has its own button. [00:33:37] Speaker D: To be fair, it was part of our life before this podcast, but now we've really kind of enshrined it into. Into the. The fabric of this program. [00:33:46] Speaker B: It's infiltrated the pod for sure. [00:33:50] Speaker C: I. It's probably infiltrated everybody who listens. [00:33:52] Speaker D: It infiltrated our old group texts when we were. [00:33:56] Speaker C: To be fair. Okay. I do think people use that phrase way more often than they realize. [00:34:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm talking to one of them, right? [00:34:09] Speaker D: It's amazing. [00:34:09] Speaker C: Shut up. [00:34:10] Speaker D: We love it. [00:34:12] Speaker B: That was great. [00:34:12] Speaker C: That was amazing. [00:34:13] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:34:14] Speaker C: I liked the little beat track in the background there. [00:34:16] Speaker B: Commission. You're actually challenged right here by a listener by not even knowing that they have a little challenge for you. [00:34:24] Speaker D: What's that? [00:34:25] Speaker B: We're gonna put a little head to head matchup of Justin Matson. [00:34:28] Speaker D: No way. [00:34:29] Speaker B: We don't have a live track, but Justin Manson writes in hot take. But I guess it's not really a hot take. But did you guys know that's the 50th anniversary of the wreck of the Admin Fitzgerald? [00:34:40] Speaker D: Yeah, I did hear about that. Yeah. [00:34:41] Speaker B: Well, we love it. We live in Michigan. It's a banger. [00:34:44] Speaker D: Gordon Lightfoot. [00:34:45] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:34:46] Speaker C: A banger. The legend lives on a banger, though. [00:34:50] Speaker B: Do you know how it starts? [00:34:54] Speaker C: Oh, you're talking about the song. [00:34:55] Speaker D: Yeah. Yes. [00:34:57] Speaker C: I thought you were talking about the event being a banger. [00:34:59] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh people died. [00:35:02] Speaker D: Oh my gosh. [00:35:03] Speaker B: I need you to spread out for this one. You ready? Okay. The legend lives on Boomer Sooner on down to the little guy they drafted at at QB the kid is said should have pinch hit instead when the A's took him in the top 10 with a load of transfer lore Never lost a game before when Kyler first played for the Aggies oh a Kevin Semlin a Kevin someone coach team just a pipe dream when the golden boy departed for crimson and cream. [00:35:34] Speaker C: Thank you you you kind of it. [00:35:38] Speaker B: Was the pride of Lincoln Riley's line when the he ran the way to the Heisman. As the other qbs go he was smaller than most with a coach and an offense and well seasoned. He came to the terms with the NFL firms when he left fully loaded from for Arizona. [00:35:59] Speaker C: You gotta go up at some point. [00:36:00] Speaker B: You gotta go up and it lasts a few years. It would only be a tears could it be great regret he's been feeling. [00:36:11] Speaker C: There you go. [00:36:12] Speaker D: There you go. Okay. I like it. That's on key. [00:36:14] Speaker C: That was on key. [00:36:15] Speaker B: Justin writes in I think Tyler Murray personifies the Edmund Fitzgerald. I also an absolute TR Scorcher. I truly hope that he plays baseball. To which I replied I wonder if he will only be good in the first half of that season like he is in the NFL. [00:36:37] Speaker D: Savage. [00:36:38] Speaker C: I like how halfway through reading his his lyrics you then started I didn't. [00:36:45] Speaker B: Know what I was going to do. I had to get into character. [00:36:47] Speaker C: Well, I figured the character was a slow. [00:36:49] Speaker B: I wasn't confident with the beginning. [00:36:50] Speaker D: Yeah. No rehearsals on this program. [00:36:52] Speaker C: The end was better. You got there on the end. [00:36:54] Speaker D: I liked it. Thank you for doing that. Thank you, Justin, for sending that in. It was thoughtful and beautiful. Wow. [00:36:59] Speaker B: Listeners are bringing it today 100 episodes in. It just took us 100 episodes to get just to that level. [00:37:06] Speaker C: What a tragedy of a banger. Just, you know it's a banger. [00:37:10] Speaker D: I know it is. [00:37:12] Speaker B: Do you not agree that that song's a banger? Like are we gonna have an issue right now? Did you not listen to that with Jim Scrappy? [00:37:17] Speaker C: I never said it wasn't a banger. [00:37:18] Speaker D: Did we ever cover that song when we were we had a band. [00:37:22] Speaker C: I feel like we should have if we didn't. [00:37:24] Speaker D: I feel like we tried. Maybe. I. I don't remember. [00:37:26] Speaker C: It seems so berkm. [00:37:27] Speaker D: I know. It's definitely Burke Myy. [00:37:29] Speaker C: I mean they basically lived in the Fitzgerald. [00:37:32] Speaker B: What? What? [00:37:33] Speaker D: What? [00:37:34] Speaker C: Okay. [00:37:35] Speaker B: All right. [00:37:36] Speaker C: What you guys talking about? [00:37:37] Speaker B: Do you guys want to finish With Rick's episode questions of 100 episodes celebration celebrations. [00:37:46] Speaker C: Hang on. [00:37:46] Speaker B: On. [00:37:46] Speaker C: What are we hanging on? [00:37:48] Speaker D: Got something from somebody. Simon Reedsma writes. [00:37:57] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:37:58] Speaker D: A pod memory that sticks out to me was Marshall saying, tyler Lockett was born wide open down the field for a touchdown or something to that effect. [00:38:07] Speaker B: Came out of the womb. Open 45 yards downfield in the end zone. [00:38:10] Speaker D: Yeah. He says congrats on 100 episodes. [00:38:13] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:38:14] Speaker D: Thank you. Simon, congratulations on your success. [00:38:17] Speaker C: Is he still with the Seahawks? [00:38:19] Speaker D: Simon Reedsman never was with the Seahawks. He's in Grand Rapids now. [00:38:25] Speaker C: You're so funny. You're so clever. [00:38:28] Speaker D: I miss him. I miss him. [00:38:30] Speaker C: I don't. All right, let's get to the 101 episode celebration question. [00:38:34] Speaker D: No, Tyler Lockett is. Is rostered, and I just saw him playing for whoever who was on the other. [00:38:40] Speaker C: He's. [00:38:40] Speaker D: He's. He's on a team. [00:38:42] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:38:43] Speaker D: I can't remember who it was. A game that I watched. It was probably a night game. Is he on the Commanders or something? I can't remember. [00:38:50] Speaker C: No, that's Wagner. [00:38:53] Speaker D: Not. I know. [00:38:55] Speaker C: Well, because you're thinking Seahawks. [00:38:56] Speaker D: I know. Okay, I see how you got there. No, I know that Tyler Lockett's a receiver. [00:39:00] Speaker C: See, Hawk, how you got there? [00:39:02] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:39:03] Speaker B: Ian, how about you read us off our questions from Rick? All right, number. [00:39:06] Speaker C: Pretty epic or the first one behind the mic. What's the. [00:39:12] Speaker B: It's really. [00:39:13] Speaker C: What's the hardest part about producing or recording an episode that listeners never see? [00:39:19] Speaker B: The hardest part? I think it. For me, it was arguing about whether tying a lock means that you lose or you gain half a point. [00:39:31] Speaker C: Oh, we have had. [00:39:32] Speaker D: We argued the heck out of that. [00:39:35] Speaker C: Only because it had actually influenced, I think, some of our picks at some point. [00:39:40] Speaker B: It did. I was really angry. Yeah, I was really passionate. [00:39:44] Speaker C: We then determined that you actually had to pick it as a tie. [00:39:47] Speaker B: Oh, what a load. [00:39:49] Speaker D: What? I never agreed to that. You said it. No, you. No, no. Well, it was. That was a thought experiment here. Or. I was, like, making a point. [00:39:58] Speaker C: Experiment. [00:40:00] Speaker D: I was making a point. I was making a point. [00:40:03] Speaker C: I remember after Shut It. You like that. [00:40:06] Speaker B: He's the one that can tell you to shut up. But if you did that to him. [00:40:09] Speaker D: I tell him to shut up all the time. [00:40:10] Speaker B: He doesn't do it. [00:40:11] Speaker C: And it's hurtful. [00:40:12] Speaker D: Oh, I'm sorry. [00:40:13] Speaker C: But when I do it, it's passionately loved. [00:40:16] Speaker D: I'm not hurt at all. [00:40:19] Speaker C: I'm not crying. I was on Marshall's side. I'm saying I was on Marshall's side that it should have been worth a half a point, and you said no half a points. And you were very adamant about the half a point not really being good on the spreadsheets. [00:40:35] Speaker D: Wait, I was pro half point. [00:40:37] Speaker C: No, you were not. [00:40:38] Speaker D: I was totally pro half point. I said, this is the only way. I was half point all the way. [00:40:42] Speaker C: Well, then what were you, Marshall point. [00:40:44] Speaker D: After he was anti half point. [00:40:47] Speaker C: Were you. [00:40:48] Speaker D: He was just like goose egg. [00:40:49] Speaker C: Were you antifa. [00:40:51] Speaker B: Whoa. [00:40:53] Speaker D: On the record, this is really. [00:40:56] Speaker C: Oh, we got political years. [00:40:58] Speaker B: You're sweating right now. [00:40:59] Speaker D: Oh, my God. We should start a political podcast. What do you think, you guys? Guys? [00:41:03] Speaker C: No, we would get the political after. [00:41:05] Speaker D: We can. We can do better with the names, but we have a nerdy podcast, which we do during the. The football off season, called make it nerdy. [00:41:16] Speaker C: Four point hafter or point I was four point hafter. [00:41:24] Speaker D: Yes. I like that. I like that. Well done. Well done. [00:41:27] Speaker C: Number three. Number three. [00:41:28] Speaker D: Wait, we didn't answer the question, did we? [00:41:30] Speaker C: It's too late. [00:41:30] Speaker B: It's too late. [00:41:31] Speaker C: Too late. We got to keep moving. [00:41:33] Speaker B: No, no, no. Hold on. [00:41:34] Speaker C: How is your role on air chemistry changed over 100 episodes. I have no problem telling Kyle to shut up now. [00:41:40] Speaker D: I tell him to shut up all the time. I struggle to tell Marshall to shut up, though. We. We. It gets. It's different. [00:41:46] Speaker C: Marshall is less angry. [00:41:49] Speaker D: Marshall is better at, like, attack debate style. And I just cower. I just back away. I'm just like, I don't want to fight. I give up. You win. [00:42:00] Speaker C: You just said a mean thing that happened very early in the pod that I learned was that Marshall felt like he always had to have the last word. [00:42:10] Speaker D: Oh, Marshall's the last word. [00:42:12] Speaker C: And he had. He felt like he had to end the argument on his terms. [00:42:16] Speaker D: That got old for you and I. [00:42:18] Speaker C: I didn't like it. I wasn't a fan. [00:42:20] Speaker B: I didn't like it. [00:42:21] Speaker D: We had words. [00:42:22] Speaker C: We. There was some heated exchange. You really want to know? Behind the mic. There was some earlier. [00:42:28] Speaker B: Early. [00:42:28] Speaker D: You lost it sometimes. [00:42:30] Speaker C: There was. Sometimes I left very frustrated because I was like, you can't argue that way. It's not like, kosher. [00:42:40] Speaker D: Yes. That was really fun. [00:42:42] Speaker C: And while some listeners might think, though arguing is fun, I actually actively do not like arguing that way on the pod. I never did. [00:42:51] Speaker D: Right, right, right, right. Yeah. I don't. I don't like it. [00:42:54] Speaker C: There's a. [00:42:54] Speaker D: There's a. There's an art to it. [00:42:56] Speaker C: There is. [00:42:56] Speaker D: And it takes practice and I feel like we've got a little bit better at that. This banter back and forth, like just kind of hearing each other out, just kind of interjecting, you know, counterpoints or raising questions and, you know, like, taking other sides. But, you know, I feel like in the early days we were not as good at it. We would. We would like, jab at each other in more hurtful ways or disruptive ways. [00:43:16] Speaker B: I learned early on that Kyle was sensitive if I said he didn't watch football that week. [00:43:22] Speaker D: I came in the early seasons with more insecurities about my lack of football. [00:43:25] Speaker B: Knowledge, but I was like, this is part of the banter. And you're like, no, you make me look like an idiot. And I'm like, I look like an idiot. Like every other. [00:43:34] Speaker D: I felt every time I spoke, like, oh, you're gonna call me out as a fraud? And then you often did. And. And it made me feel like it affirmed my insecurities. [00:43:45] Speaker B: I'm sorry for laughing, but I got. [00:43:47] Speaker D: I got better. Now I'm pretty confident. [00:43:50] Speaker C: There was a time where you guys came up with your, like, little rhyme things and you were like, we're going to surprise. We did it. And then I felt like a complete idiot cuz I'm like, I don't have anything. Cuz no one told me this was a thing that we were doing. [00:44:05] Speaker D: And I felt bad about that. [00:44:06] Speaker C: I remember being like, well, that was kind of low. [00:44:09] Speaker B: Yeah, you were salty about us being creative. I remember that too. [00:44:12] Speaker C: It wasn't that se. Right. [00:44:13] Speaker D: Oh, geez. See, that's. [00:44:15] Speaker B: I let you finish words there after me though, so. [00:44:17] Speaker C: But that right there is like a misrepresentation of the actual event. [00:44:21] Speaker B: That also sounds like somebody I know. The commish. I'm kidding. Jk, Number three. [00:44:31] Speaker C: Favorite. [00:44:32] Speaker B: Number four. [00:44:33] Speaker C: Whatever. Yeah. Favorite moment we did number one is like the. [00:44:36] Speaker B: The intro. [00:44:36] Speaker C: The intro. [00:44:37] Speaker B: So people, favorite moment. If you could relive one moment an argument, a prediction that aged perfectly or a total meltdown, which would it be? [00:44:47] Speaker C: Oh, currently some of my takes from the beginning of this year, I. Oh. [00:44:51] Speaker B: God, I don't get the parade route for you. Being right about things have been. So don't do this. [00:44:57] Speaker C: Happy about the way things are going with the Patriots and the Rams and the Steelers. These are all in the Packers. I don't think I made a prediction about the Packers. [00:45:09] Speaker B: Yeah. But yeah, probably not about their offense. [00:45:13] Speaker D: I don't know. [00:45:14] Speaker C: It's not really a prediction lately. I haven't really had a prediction about their offense. It's More been a critique. [00:45:20] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:45:21] Speaker B: Yeah, you're right. What about you, Kyle? What would you want to relive? [00:45:24] Speaker D: Favorite moments bearing witness to some Ian meltdowns have been just entertaining and you just had to be there. Like, that was great. The fact that we haven't censored our show too much in certain instances and you know, that's gone off. That's. That's been entertaining to be in the room for. [00:45:45] Speaker C: There was one show, I think last year, there was a couple F bombs that were dropped. [00:45:49] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:45:49] Speaker C: I can't remember what it was for. [00:45:51] Speaker B: There was one, you know, absolutely. Like a hard one. It was almost like, I don't know how you could turn an F word up, but you did. [00:45:59] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:46:00] Speaker C: I can't remember what I. Yeah, it. [00:46:01] Speaker D: Was like a verbal punch. Everyone got punched in the ears with your onslaught. [00:46:06] Speaker C: I do remember this. I just can't remember what it was for. [00:46:10] Speaker D: I remember doing it. [00:46:11] Speaker B: What about our next one on here? Audience surprise. What's something listeners responded to away or to? [00:46:19] Speaker D: Way more. [00:46:19] Speaker B: Something listeners responded to way more than you expected. Definitely not our Twitter account. [00:46:27] Speaker D: We have a Twitter account. Is Twitter still a thing? X. Yeah. I find I like to bring pro. Like, positive pro. Not as in professional pro as in, in favor of like supportive, happy takes and like, I'm a crap talker take kind of guy. [00:46:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:50] Speaker D: And I like to be like, oh, I like. I think this guy's really good. And I'm like, oh, cool. Like whichever. [00:46:57] Speaker C: Kyle Brand stat the other day, this. [00:47:00] Speaker D: This player's really cool. And I'm into this coach or kind of into this team or something like that. I. I'm not the person who brings like the negative downer take. I tend to. I tend to believe that the easier take is the negative take because you'll be right more than you'll be wrong. You know, if, if you call, if you call your shot and say so and so is going to win MVPs or be in the hall of Fame or win Super Bowls, like, that's a braver take. It's harder to take because you will probably be wrong. But if you say someone won't, you will probably be right. It's an easier, safer take. [00:47:30] Speaker C: Those are just bad takes then. [00:47:32] Speaker D: Well, no, no. Just because the numbers are in favor of the negative take. The numbers of the favorite, like, oh, they're frauds. They're not going to win. [00:47:41] Speaker B: Love a good fraud. [00:47:42] Speaker D: That's the easier take because you'll probably be right. [00:47:44] Speaker C: Right. Mathematically very easy to say. The Colts aren't going to do anything in the playoffs. [00:47:48] Speaker D: Yeah, it's kind of. It's kind of the lazy take. Really easy. You look like you know something in your confidence, but really, like, that's the much easier position to take because you'll probably be right. And so some fans of our show have written in with, like, responsive, like, critique, tear down type takes where I'm like, high on somebody. I'm like, oh, I think Kyler's really cool. I'm a big fan of Gino. Oh, Lamar's really amazing. We're lucky to get to watch him. [00:48:18] Speaker B: Dear Arizona comment was top for me as well. [00:48:21] Speaker C: Top tier. Top tier. [00:48:23] Speaker D: I was trying to bring it back in. What happened? Yeah. [00:48:27] Speaker B: All right, next question. Ian, number six, what's been your personal. [00:48:32] Speaker C: High point of hosting the show and your biggest. Wish I'd done that differently moment? [00:48:36] Speaker B: O Wish I'd done that differently. Probably the night that Kyle and I had to, like, have a therapy session afterwards in here while you stood out there waiting to get something out of his car. [00:48:46] Speaker C: Yeah. You guys were talking about the spreadsheets, and I was just like, yeah, you. [00:48:51] Speaker B: Got really mad at me that day. Not my best moment. [00:48:54] Speaker D: I don't remember which one that was five weeks ago. [00:48:57] Speaker C: It was this. [00:48:57] Speaker D: Oh, this one? [00:48:59] Speaker C: Yeah, the one where you forgot about it. [00:49:00] Speaker D: Okay. [00:49:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:01] Speaker C: Spreadsheet. And then you. [00:49:03] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:49:04] Speaker C: Because you are. You do all the work in the sheets and you're, I think, safe to say, a professional at Excel and like. [00:49:12] Speaker B: Data analysis, according to Lincoln. [00:49:15] Speaker C: And it's like literally half of your job. [00:49:19] Speaker D: It seems like it's a big part of it. Yeah. [00:49:21] Speaker C: That somebody who maybe doesn't do that as much is coming in and turning down your data. [00:49:25] Speaker D: I don't know if I even told you guys, the last time I was laid off some years ago, I applied for some jobs at Pro Football Focus as a data analyst. [00:49:40] Speaker C: Oh, that would have been fun. [00:49:41] Speaker B: I know. Here's a guy. [00:49:42] Speaker C: You didn't get it. [00:49:43] Speaker D: No, I didn't get it. [00:49:45] Speaker B: I'm not. [00:49:46] Speaker D: I'm not working for Collinsworth. [00:49:48] Speaker B: No. [00:49:49] Speaker D: My credentials were not very impressive for the particular role, but. [00:49:52] Speaker B: Did you tell them about the pod? [00:49:54] Speaker D: I don't know if. No, I don't know if that would. [00:49:57] Speaker C: Have been a positive. [00:49:58] Speaker D: I don't know. Yeah. I didn't really want to associate myself with. No. [00:50:03] Speaker B: All right. [00:50:04] Speaker D: Yeah, that's. That was an example of, like, something I wish I would have been more prepared for because it. It was like a take that I've just been stewing on, you know? Kind of gelling on this one for little bit of time. But it wasn't really. It hadn't really coalesced and I was. I felt like I was workshopping it live with you guys. [00:50:18] Speaker B: Give you space. [00:50:19] Speaker D: I was not prepared for the obvious questions like you were going to come back with me and I'm like, duh, of course he's going to come back with that. I should have kind of been prepared for that. So I felt like I was doing a disservice to you and our audience by like riffing on a take that I should have been really well prepared for. [00:50:34] Speaker B: I can agree with that. [00:50:36] Speaker D: Yeah. And that's happened a couple of times where I've shown I was less prepared than I wanted to be. [00:50:40] Speaker B: How would you. [00:50:41] Speaker D: I was disappointed in how my Cowboys Dolphins comparison went over a couple seasons ago. I thought that was amazing and you guys were like neat. [00:50:54] Speaker B: I get mad every year you tell me I'm bad at picking the Dolphins. Every year I'm bad at picking them. So I'm just never picking them. [00:51:02] Speaker D: You still are picking them. [00:51:04] Speaker B: Still bad. [00:51:04] Speaker D: Again, by not picking them, you're still picking. You can't not pick them. You have to choose the winner or loser of the game. [00:51:10] Speaker B: Yeah, but I always pick them to lose. And then of course that's when they beat the Bills. [00:51:15] Speaker C: I can't tell if I'm bad at picks or I just don't know ball sometimes. [00:51:21] Speaker B: Nah, it's the first one. [00:51:24] Speaker C: That means what you're actually implying. [00:51:26] Speaker D: What's the difference? [00:51:27] Speaker C: It's actually. I find more of a compliment because that's actually implying that I do know ball. [00:51:32] Speaker B: I was just unlucky. I was right was intending that to be. [00:51:35] Speaker C: I actually do feel like I have been unlucky at my picks. It's not like they're. [00:51:39] Speaker B: It's the luck thing now, huh? [00:51:40] Speaker C: It's. [00:51:40] Speaker D: I'm for five straight years. [00:51:44] Speaker C: This. A small sample size started this that we actually started having off to the side. [00:51:51] Speaker B: Remember the Eagles lost on that last game to lose. The thing for you I can't remember. It was they put in the backup quarterback. Oh. [00:52:00] Speaker D: Oh, that's right. Yeah. [00:52:02] Speaker B: And it's screwed you on the post. I was so halfway through the game. [00:52:07] Speaker C: That was the year that I think that was the one that Peterson I think ended up getting fired on because he like completely threw the game right. Like it was almost purposeful. How bad. [00:52:18] Speaker B: That's when they had to change the Sunday Night Football stuff for the last end of the season. [00:52:22] Speaker C: It was so infuriating I do remember that. But that reminds me of when. When we first started doing this, we actually had like a fourth pickums for the coin flip. Do you remember doing that? We were like, what did we do? We started having like, well, I'm just gonna flip a coin and see how the coin. [00:52:40] Speaker B: You flipped a coin. You did it for your picks. [00:52:43] Speaker C: I was flipping a coin. Oh, this was early on because I. [00:52:47] Speaker B: Was like, that was hurtful because all of a sudden you did better one week when you were flipping the coin, you're like, I'm doing this. And then you had like two out of like 12. [00:52:55] Speaker D: Right. [00:52:55] Speaker B: The following week after that. [00:52:56] Speaker C: I remember like disowning the Giants one year because of. And I literally actively went through preemptively. This was like week four when this happened. And just picked against the Giants all the way down the line of. I was so mad at them. [00:53:11] Speaker B: I approve of that. Hatred brand in a sentence. If you had to define this podcast after a hundred episodes in one sentence, what would it be? Some of us are prepared, some of us are not. We're all gonna give takes raw emotion. [00:53:26] Speaker D: Oh, okay. [00:53:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:29] Speaker D: Sophisticated analysis of professional football content. I don't. [00:53:36] Speaker B: Number eight. [00:53:38] Speaker D: This is lively personal discourse. This is friendly banter. I think that the. The element that is. This is more than one sentence that draws me to this type of content is that like the close relationships, like, we're not. We're not professional media personalities or NFL players, but we're. We're close friends who are. Okay, just like telling each other to shut up and cracking jokes and fill in the space. There's not a lot of dead air. [00:54:03] Speaker C: Don't realize is like we hold hands during this entire pod. [00:54:07] Speaker D: I know that you don't. You miss all the little things. You miss the. You think you're listening. You think. You think that these are probably guys sitting separate from wearing pants. And you're totally wrong. [00:54:18] Speaker C: We're not. [00:54:21] Speaker B: Lessons learned. What's one piece of advice that you give that you would give to your episode oneself? [00:54:28] Speaker C: Show up in shorts. You don't need pants. What do you need? We don't need pants. [00:54:38] Speaker D: I would tell myself, yeah, you do belong here. You do. [00:54:43] Speaker B: You actually need to watch some football. [00:54:44] Speaker D: You're not a fraud. Wow. [00:54:48] Speaker B: Okay, number nine, future self. What's your moonshot idea for the next hundredth episode? I'm gonna let Ian because thinking of. [00:54:56] Speaker C: This I've been wanting. This is actually good to actually vocalize on air because then that maybe we can get some positive feedback on this. So if you're still listening at this point in the pot. Tell us what you think. I have been thinking it would be beneficial to transition from a audio medium to a more visual medium and like, maybe do more of like a, like a. A YouTube channel where we like stream live the actual pod while we're recording. And that way when you're streaming live, you can actually have people comment and like, instead of having like a mailbag where it's like preemptive questions, we could have a section where we have like, we literally ask the audience a question because they're right there watching. They can be more engaged in the conversation. Like a full blown, like, YouTube channel for like the pod, you know, where it be more of like a visual medium. [00:55:50] Speaker B: I dig. [00:55:50] Speaker D: It would be like a, like a show, like a talk show. [00:55:53] Speaker C: Right. [00:55:54] Speaker D: Kind of thing. [00:55:54] Speaker C: A lot of work it would be. [00:55:56] Speaker D: I'm into that, the live streaming, anywhere with it. But I'd like, you know, along the same lines, I like the idea of more live callers. Like if we had a brief live caller every episode, I'd be down. Like if somebody wants to call in and just over the phone give us their take or question. That's super fun. I love doing that sort of thing. [00:56:20] Speaker B: I would say one of my also favorite moments is what my dad called in about trivia. [00:56:25] Speaker D: Fantastic. [00:56:25] Speaker B: That was a lot of fun. [00:56:26] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:56:26] Speaker B: Our last one, Hot Take. This podcast has changed the way you watch football. True or false? False. [00:56:36] Speaker D: I think it has. [00:56:37] Speaker B: I think it's changed it for me. I'm always looking for something to like, throw you a cool stat like that Jim McMahon one. [00:56:44] Speaker C: I guess. Maybe. I guess. [00:56:45] Speaker B: Constantly screenshotting tweets to say on the pod. I feel like that I see throughout Sunday football. [00:56:54] Speaker D: Oh, wow. [00:56:55] Speaker C: I don't know if it's changed the way I view football just because I feel like every time I come here, I'm like more emotional about my takes. [00:57:02] Speaker B: Than anything else, especially a week off. [00:57:05] Speaker C: Like, I ride the wave of how I'm feeling. I. I feel like that's accurate. Am I wrong? [00:57:13] Speaker D: No, no, you're great. [00:57:14] Speaker B: Not wrong. [00:57:15] Speaker C: I feel like I'm a very emotional. Like, I'll come in one week and be like, the lines. [00:57:18] Speaker D: Oh, gosh, yeah. Awful. [00:57:20] Speaker B: I know they're gonna fire them all. [00:57:22] Speaker C: Fire them all. Then the next week I'll be like, greatest, greatest planet. [00:57:27] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:57:28] Speaker B: Except for the Giants. They were dead. You know, I. [00:57:32] Speaker C: But I feel like I've gotten better about that. At least with the lines. I feel like I've been better about. [00:57:38] Speaker D: Yeah, it's changing for me because I. I've become much more of, like, a holistic NFL viewer where I've always kind of been interested in everything going on, but never had, like, a reason to tune in and follow all the other stories. And it just, you know, felt like a lot of work to pay attention to what's going on. Oh, what, you know, Ryan Tannehill is where. And Jay Cutler is doing what? And I don't know, I can't keep track. But now, over these years of having this podcast, I've grown to basically have at least the desire, if still not the time, to watch every game that airs and follow every story across the entire NFL. And that's what I'm in it for, really, is the stories. I love the stories of the players and the teams and the unexpected things and. And the coaching cycle and the GM choices and all the things that are happening around this sport across the whole league. You know, I have favorite players and favorite teams, of course, but everything that's going on in the NFL is of interest to me. And now I have an actual reason to kind of care and follow and, you know, yeah, it's great. [00:58:40] Speaker B: You're a big story guy. Ian is a big team guy. I'm a big player guy. I think that's what makes our show a little bit unique in that regard. I think you're right. We have a different perspective of how we watch the NFL. We're moving on to our weekly segment. This one comes from yours truly. And, guys, I want you to refer to the segment that we have. I'm calling this the All Timer Squad. You're going to have six different categories to choose from. So I want you to refer to our weekly segment. And you can see on there I'm going to be adding in each. You do not know what's coming up next, but I made some great categories for you to pick from to create your own. [00:59:22] Speaker D: Okay, fun, fun, fun, fun. [00:59:23] Speaker B: We're going to start their $1, 2, $3, and $4. And as they get higher, the better they become. You have a total budget of 19. I'm respecting you guys in your math skills. You will be in charge of your money and allocating and putting things where they need to be and keeping charge of that. Okay, your head coach for $1, you get Mike Tomlin. For $2, you get Mike Shanahan. For $3, you get Andy Reid. And $4, you get Bill Belichick. And Ian, I'm going to let you start off. Kyle, you go next. And then we'll go. [00:59:54] Speaker D: We cannot take the same. [00:59:55] Speaker B: You cannot take the same person. [00:59:57] Speaker D: Right, right, right, right. [00:59:58] Speaker C: I'll take the $1. Mike Tomlin. [00:59:59] Speaker D: Dang it. That's who I was going to take. [01:00:01] Speaker C: It was, like, the easy one. [01:00:02] Speaker D: All right, fine. I'll spend $3 on Andy Reid. [01:00:04] Speaker B: Okay. All right, so we got $1 spent and $2 spent. The next category that we have, I want you to pay attention on the spreadsheet is offensive coordinator. For $1, you're getting Cliff Kingsbury. For $2, you're getting Kyle Shanahan. For $3, you're getting Norv Turner. For $4, you are getting Josh McDaniels. [01:00:32] Speaker D: Wow. What do we got here? I. Do I. Is it my turn to pick first? I'm going Kyle Shanahan for $2. [01:00:40] Speaker C: Darn. [01:00:41] Speaker D: Who you got, Ian? [01:00:45] Speaker C: I feel like we're building up our coaching tree here. [01:00:51] Speaker D: Oh, you got. [01:00:52] Speaker B: I'll take. [01:00:52] Speaker C: Oh, man. Kingsbury did a lot of good work with the Commanders last year. Yeah, he has the right tools. He's actually pretty good. Yeah, he's always cheap. [01:01:03] Speaker D: You're gonna do it, aren't you, Cliff? I'm putting them in for you. [01:01:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:01:08] Speaker B: All right, next one, defensive coordinators. For $1, you have Dan Quinn. For $2, you have Fangs Vic Fangio. $3, you get Rex Ryan. $4, you get Spags. [01:01:21] Speaker D: Oh, man. [01:01:22] Speaker C: Oh, Spags. [01:01:23] Speaker D: You're taking spaghetti. [01:01:24] Speaker C: I'll take Spags. You know what my motto is? [01:01:27] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:01:27] Speaker B: Defense wins championships. [01:01:30] Speaker C: I might as well put my money where my mouth is here. [01:01:33] Speaker B: Now you're gonna do it. Not for the Rams, though. I'm kidding. [01:01:36] Speaker D: I'm taking Vic Fangio for two bucks. Wow. [01:01:38] Speaker B: Okay. [01:01:39] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:01:39] Speaker B: This is where it starts to get a little bit more interesting. [01:01:42] Speaker D: Pay attention to the more interesting now. Oh, crap. [01:01:45] Speaker B: All right. For your entire offense, for $1, you get the 2004 Colts, Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Edgerton, James Edron James. $2, you get the 2018 Chiefs with Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, and Kelsey. [01:02:03] Speaker C: It's a pretty good team. [01:02:04] Speaker B: For $3, you get the Greatest show on Turf 2000 or the 1999 Rams. And for $4, you get the Brady and Moss 2007 Patriots. Probably, Kyle. [01:02:13] Speaker C: Probably the best offense out there. [01:02:16] Speaker D: You know what? [01:02:16] Speaker B: Taken. [01:02:17] Speaker C: Just do it. [01:02:18] Speaker D: I almost wish I would have taken Spags because I've got Andy Reid as my coach. I'm taking. I'm spending two bucks on the 2018 Chiefs right now. Mahomes threw for over 5,000 yards in that season. One of the greatest quarterback seasons we've ever seen. That was incredible. [01:02:39] Speaker B: Kyle has his pick. How many, how many? [01:02:41] Speaker C: How many categories are left? [01:02:44] Speaker B: There's two more after this. [01:02:46] Speaker C: Two more. Two more. Yeah. Give me the 07 Patriots then. Hell yeah. Wow. [01:02:54] Speaker B: Okay. [01:02:55] Speaker C: That offense was electric. You probably have one of the greatest quarterbacks of our time and one of the greatest receivers of our time. They were. That offense was unstoppable. Until it wasn't. [01:03:08] Speaker D: Right? Right. [01:03:09] Speaker C: It was an amazing team. [01:03:11] Speaker B: Our next one is an entire defense. For $1, you get the Michael Strahan and JPP led New York Giants. For $2, you get the Brian Erlacher and Peanut TILLMAN Chicago Bears. $3, you get the Legion of Boom. Seattle Seahawks. And $4, you get the Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs, Baltimore Ravens. [01:03:30] Speaker D: Dang. [01:03:31] Speaker C: Yeah, give me the Ravens. Okay, I got two categories left, right? One this and then one after. [01:03:36] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure he was first on that one. [01:03:39] Speaker D: It's okay. I'm taking Legion of Boom. Oh, I' you are? [01:03:41] Speaker C: You're right. [01:03:41] Speaker B: You're right. [01:03:42] Speaker D: I'm taking Legion of Boom. [01:03:43] Speaker B: Okay. And this is truly my favorite part of the game that we're going to play right now. I like to call it the bonus character. Something you were not predicting to be a part of your game today. I will add it right here and if you can see for $1, controversial calls go your way every time. [01:04:06] Speaker C: Okay, pretty good one. [01:04:07] Speaker B: For $2, you pick one, play a game where you know the exact team's play. For $3, Aaron Donald is on your team for 10 years and cannot be double team or chip blocked. [01:04:19] Speaker D: What? [01:04:20] Speaker B: For $4, you get prime Mike Vick's legs added to your quarterback. [01:04:26] Speaker C: Imagine Brady running like that. [01:04:29] Speaker D: That's amazing. Okay, Is it my turn first? [01:04:35] Speaker B: Correct. [01:04:37] Speaker D: I've lost track of my money, but I know I'm going Aaron Donald. [01:04:41] Speaker C: That's good. [01:04:41] Speaker D: I'm going Aaron Donald for 10 years. Can't be double teamed. [01:04:44] Speaker B: I have give me Andre iguida. [01:04:46] Speaker C: I have $5 left. Can I use it all? [01:04:49] Speaker B: I'm gonna let you use the four and I'm gonna let you use up to four. And then I have one caveat that we're gonna do afterwards. [01:04:57] Speaker C: Oh, so there's more potential money that I could be saving. [01:05:02] Speaker B: It's up for you to play right now. [01:05:04] Speaker C: I'm gonna take the $1. I mean, that would be the one that I would probably take anyways since Donald's gone. So yeah, I'll take the controversial calls. Go your way. [01:05:13] Speaker B: I talked with G about this and went over the scenario. I figured $1 being that was going to be you guys having some leftover things and you guys being really upset that you were going to win controversially because most of you want to win the right way and not controversially, like want to win and banners live forever right now. Kyle, you're adding up your total right now. How much? How much? The. The budget's $19. Where are you looking at? [01:05:44] Speaker D: I think I've spent 15. Perfect. [01:05:46] Speaker B: And I got $4 left. Okay, perfect. Both of you have $4 left. So what I will do right now is I will allow each of you on the count of three to at the same time, make one adjustment. [01:05:59] Speaker C: One adjustment? [01:06:00] Speaker B: Yeah. But you can't say it like, what? Oh, you're gonna do this? Okay, I'm gonna do that. I want you to look at where you spent a little amount of money and you can put a little bit more in, but you're gonna say it on the count of three at the same time. And if you both pick the same thing, I will allow it. [01:06:17] Speaker D: Oh, but he's already got the things. [01:06:19] Speaker B: That I want correct. For some of them. [01:06:22] Speaker D: For some of them. Okay. I don't want any of these more. I like what I got. [01:06:30] Speaker C: There's only one that I think I have. [01:06:32] Speaker D: Literally an invincible team. [01:06:35] Speaker C: Well, that's all right. Debatable. [01:06:37] Speaker B: Ian, do you have any upgrade you want to do then since Kyle's opting out of the upgrade? [01:06:43] Speaker C: There's only one upgrade I would take. [01:06:45] Speaker B: Hit me with it. [01:06:46] Speaker C: Belichick over Tomlinson. [01:06:49] Speaker D: Thank you. [01:06:49] Speaker B: That's a no brainer for me. [01:06:51] Speaker C: That would be the only one that I would do. [01:06:52] Speaker D: That's a good one. [01:06:54] Speaker B: Now, can you read your team off for everybody? Ian, we want the listeners to. Yeah, you get Belichick. [01:06:59] Speaker C: Okay, so I'm. I got Belichick as my head coach, Cliff Kingsbury as my OC, Spags as my defensive coordinator. I got the 07 Patriots offense, I got the Ravens defense from the Ray Lewis and the Ed Reed era. And I got controversial calls go my way. I don't know how you're going to beat me. I'm sorry. [01:07:21] Speaker B: Tell the people what you have, Kyle. [01:07:23] Speaker D: I have Andy Reid as head coach with Kyle Shanahan as my OC and Vic Fangio as my defensive coordinator. [01:07:30] Speaker B: Thanks. [01:07:31] Speaker D: I have the 2018 Chiefs record setting MVP season with the Legion of Boom Seahawks defense and Aaron Donald who cannot be double teamed. I'm a team for 10 years. What more do you want? [01:07:49] Speaker C: I feel like both of these teams would just play infinitely and tie the entire time. [01:07:54] Speaker B: It'd be the Chiefs Bills game from three years ago every day. [01:07:57] Speaker C: I do feel like these are very well matched teams. [01:08:00] Speaker D: 07. Is that pre Gronk? [01:08:02] Speaker B: I don't remember on that team. [01:08:04] Speaker D: Oh, is he okay? I couldn't remember what year he was drafted early. [01:08:09] Speaker B: I appreciate you guys wanting to play a part of this game with me. I love a good one of those like addition games where you need to pick a better lineup compared to your other person. So listeners, please feel free to share with us who you think got it right between Kyle and Ian. Next we have our picks, our locks and our upsets of the week. We pick every game, every week for the last five years. Ian currently is in second place holding off Kyle. Kyle's in third place and I am currently in first. Ian, will you hit me with your lock of the week? Guaranteed W. They will win. Lock it and put your house on it. [01:08:42] Speaker C: Go patriots over jets. [01:08:44] Speaker B: I 13 and a half point spread right now. [01:08:47] Speaker C: It's a big one. [01:08:48] Speaker B: Wow. [01:08:48] Speaker C: As the beginning. [01:08:49] Speaker D: That's too big. That's too big a spread. [01:08:52] Speaker C: Not for how bad the jets have been. [01:08:54] Speaker B: That's what she said. I am taking Green Bay over the Giants. I got a feeling it's a good get right. [01:09:02] Speaker C: That's a good game. [01:09:03] Speaker B: I got a feeling that. But also I'm going against something I always bet. [01:09:06] Speaker D: New coach Bump. [01:09:07] Speaker B: The new coach Bob. [01:09:09] Speaker D: There it is. [01:09:10] Speaker B: I'm a little scared. I didn't think about can I do I have until the end of the segment to change it because I might put a new one just because that scares me. [01:09:19] Speaker D: Yeah, go ahead. [01:09:20] Speaker C: Okay. [01:09:20] Speaker B: All right. All right. What you gotta do. Give me your lock. [01:09:23] Speaker C: Kyle. [01:09:24] Speaker B: Who do you guarantee will win? [01:09:25] Speaker D: I'm locking in this winning streak of the Ravens continuing over the Browns. [01:09:29] Speaker C: Dude, the Ravens. Do you know we that division. We used to talk about that division being one of the best in football. It's probably gotta be one of the worst in football. [01:09:41] Speaker D: I know. [01:09:41] Speaker B: All right. I'm going so far against everything I just did. My upset pick is going to be the Giants new coach Bump. Sorry. [01:09:47] Speaker C: Wow. [01:09:48] Speaker D: Love it. [01:09:49] Speaker C: I love that for you. [01:09:51] Speaker D: Good job. [01:09:51] Speaker B: Thank you. What's your upset pick? Who's going to win that? Vegas says they're going to. [01:09:57] Speaker C: I tend to stay away from this team just because I don't like picking them. [01:10:02] Speaker B: Only because the Giants. [01:10:04] Speaker C: The Lions are my team. I'm picking the Lions to to beat Philly. [01:10:08] Speaker B: Did you know Kyle's a Lions fan. [01:10:10] Speaker C: One of the smallest. He's wearing all blue right now. I love that Honolulu on you. [01:10:15] Speaker D: Thank you. [01:10:15] Speaker C: But it's got. They got a very small margin there. [01:10:20] Speaker D: I. [01:10:22] Speaker C: This is the game. This is the game that I felt like I wanted to see in the NFC Championship game last year. So now I feel like we get to finally watch what this game would have looked like and potentially. Potentially, a preview will look like a preview of the playoffs. [01:10:42] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:10:42] Speaker C: It's a good chance that these two teams would meet. [01:10:44] Speaker D: There's a great chance they'll see each other again. [01:10:46] Speaker C: There's a very good chance. [01:10:46] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:10:47] Speaker C: So this is going to be a fun game Sunday night. [01:10:50] Speaker B: Okay, Kyle, who's gonna win your upset? [01:10:52] Speaker D: My upset. I'm calling the Panthers upsetting the Atlanta Falcons. I think the Falcons are free fallen a little bit right now and continue a losing streak. There it is. [01:11:08] Speaker B: People that are an hour and 11 minutes in right now, they get the good stuff right here. [01:11:11] Speaker D: Do you guys think it's cool and validating? [01:11:13] Speaker C: Only an hour and 11. [01:11:15] Speaker D: The three of us host this podcast and we are three out of the top four in our fantasy league. Is that. What does that suggest? Like, we know what we're talking about. Is that good? I think it's kind of cool. [01:11:27] Speaker C: This is the. I was said this before we started. This is the best fantasy league, like, year I've ever had. [01:11:35] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:11:35] Speaker C: I've never had a team that has been, like, consistently a top three point getter. [01:11:40] Speaker D: Yeah. Your team is great. Marshall's team is great. I like my team and we're doing pretty good in our league. [01:11:45] Speaker C: Marshall's teams has a very high ceiling. When it, like, is firing, it's. It's firing. Rick's. Holy cow. [01:11:53] Speaker D: Yeah. Rick is currently in third place in our league. Or second or third place. Yeah. [01:11:58] Speaker C: Yeah. My dad needs to figure it out. [01:12:01] Speaker B: I mean, I still learn how to use benching and starting people. [01:12:05] Speaker C: He's a free win right now, which is unfortunate. [01:12:09] Speaker D: He won his first game. [01:12:10] Speaker B: Some say that it's hurting the integrity of the league. [01:12:13] Speaker C: You. [01:12:14] Speaker B: I'm saying that if only you were the commissioner. [01:12:20] Speaker C: You're like, third in line for commission. I feel like I am. Yes. [01:12:24] Speaker D: You play your cards right, I have. [01:12:26] Speaker B: The commission button next to my name. [01:12:27] Speaker C: Yeah, but you're like, third in line in terms of. [01:12:29] Speaker B: I'm gonna kick you out of the league right now. [01:12:31] Speaker C: Don't abuse your power because we actually were the ones who started this last year. You came in. [01:12:36] Speaker B: Right. [01:12:36] Speaker D: You're the new guy. Be Respectful. [01:12:39] Speaker B: Learn. [01:12:40] Speaker C: Learn your place. [01:12:40] Speaker B: I'll let you have the last word. [01:12:43] Speaker D: Abigail wanted me to say on the pod that her. She is a big fan of the player named Patrick in the NFL, so. [01:12:50] Speaker B: Me too. [01:12:51] Speaker D: She said. I said, I'm podcasting. And she said, make sure you say that. [01:12:54] Speaker C: Tim Patrick. I love that guy. [01:12:57] Speaker D: Neil Patrick. Right? [01:12:59] Speaker C: Right, guys. All right. Some weird stuff about him sometimes out there. [01:13:04] Speaker B: Not always. [01:13:05] Speaker C: Sure how I feel. Yeah, well, weird stuff about a lot of these guys up there, so. [01:13:10] Speaker D: You're darn right. Whatever happened to what our old friend Indianapolis downtown altercation guy. What's his name? Is that right? Sanchez? Yeah. [01:13:20] Speaker C: Okay, well, I don't think he's got. [01:13:23] Speaker B: A job there anymore. [01:13:24] Speaker C: He doesn't because they brought in Drew Brees to film the space. [01:13:28] Speaker D: Oh, my gosh. [01:13:29] Speaker B: Quite the world that we live in. Wow. Anything else you guys want to end on right here? [01:13:33] Speaker C: He's taking a stab at it. [01:13:44] Speaker B: I want to thank you for listening to the point after 100 episodes. [01:13:48] Speaker D: Look at us. Look at us. [01:13:50] Speaker B: Paul Rudd, who thought we would make it. [01:13:52] Speaker D: Look at us. [01:13:52] Speaker C: You know, there used to be a time where Kyle would just walk away during this part. I don't want to do that anymore. I want to constantly be just talking over me. Yeah, I think it's funny. Last time we were doing this, I like. Because you got to try to tell your joke and you're running out of time. Do you even have a joke this year? [01:14:12] Speaker B: This week? [01:14:14] Speaker C: He doesn't have a joke. Guys, he is the joke. [01:14:17] Speaker D: He's totally unprepared. Look at this guy. Oh, gosh, I remember my first podcast. What a joke. [01:14:27] Speaker C: Wearing yellow. Will you a Michigan fan now I. [01:14:31] Speaker B: Don'T have a shirt on. What are you talking about? [01:14:33] Speaker D: Oh, I know. [01:14:33] Speaker B: I forgot. [01:14:34] Speaker C: It looks so good. Adam Silver coming at you. No. [01:14:41] Speaker D: No. [01:14:46] Speaker B: All right, I stopped. I got the last word. Now I stopped it.