Wk 15: Are Chiefs or Lions booty?

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Get 15% off any order on Selligrate Shop while also supporting this show. When you use code pat. That's pat at checkout on C E L E G R E a T shop. [00:01:05] Speaker B: Welcome to the porn after show with Kyle Maurer, Marshall Hesselaw and Ian Dewitt. This is the show where the guys attempt to pick the winners of the weekly NFL games along with some healthy debate about current topics. [00:01:17] Speaker C: Let's go. Yo, yo, yo, Bow wow with your B O Y B A. [00:01:20] Speaker A: Hey, what's up, guys? Born after show we had Kylie and Marshall. [00:01:25] Speaker D: Oh my gosh. A new theme song right there. [00:01:28] Speaker C: Dude, I actually have that poster at my house. That was one of the first ones you did at my house. I have it all scratched off in my spare room. It's funny, there's like, first time I got, I'm like, I'm gonna do all these new things. I haven't literally haven't scratched it since the first day. I scratched it because I just don't do a lot at my house. [00:01:47] Speaker D: Okay. [00:01:48] Speaker C: It's like paint a room. I'm like, still haven't done it. Pull the carpet. Still haven't done it. [00:01:52] Speaker D: The scratch off is meant to motivate you. [00:01:54] Speaker C: Yeah, you're right. I need to be better now that, now that I heard it again and I'm not just looking at it, I'm going to do something on it this week. [00:02:00] Speaker D: You got to get rid of that pink room. [00:02:02] Speaker C: Nah, let's not. The wall's fine. Why am I painted? Just to paint it. All right, question of the week, guys. [00:02:07] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. [00:02:08] Speaker C: Ian's got a good one on here. I'm excited about it. [00:02:11] Speaker D: This one, I actually. This is one I've been wanting to do because I actually have an idea. [00:02:16] Speaker A: Okay. [00:02:16] Speaker D: Hit me with what I actively think is really good. [00:02:20] Speaker C: A good tease. Give us a question. [00:02:21] Speaker D: So the question is so kind of like some general info here is the Vikings have, like, the big horn, like the. [00:02:29] Speaker A: Yep, yep. [00:02:30] Speaker C: That's. [00:02:30] Speaker A: That's what a horn sounds like. [00:02:31] Speaker C: Right. [00:02:31] Speaker D: I actually thought that was pretty good impression. [00:02:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:34] Speaker D: And then they got the skull chant. [00:02:35] Speaker A: Right. It's cool. It's iconic. [00:02:37] Speaker D: The Chiefs got the drum. They beat that drum. And then they got the tomahawk, chop, chop going on, which they've been told not to do, but they still do it anyway, so it's kind of hard to stop it. [00:02:47] Speaker A: Right. [00:02:48] Speaker D: And then the Seahawks got their, like. [00:02:49] Speaker C: 12Th man flag thing that they hatreds have the lighthouse. They light a lighthouse. [00:02:55] Speaker D: That's kind of cool. [00:02:56] Speaker C: I didn't like that. They pull a lever for a lighthouse to light up, and then the people go on the field. [00:03:02] Speaker D: Do the. Do the bucks, like, shoot the cannons off? [00:03:05] Speaker C: Yep, shoot the cannons. [00:03:06] Speaker D: Okay. Those are all. So for people wondering, these are all, like, intros to a game or to like, get the game started right before, like, kickoff, they do something like this. And my question, can you come up with, like, a chant or a start of the game ritual that a team should have that maybe doesn't have one? And I'm going to get you started because I have thought about this. I've got some good ones for the Lions. The Lions are missing an opportunity here because you're literally in Motown. Your Motor City. [00:03:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:40] Speaker D: I think it would be sick if they got a Ford, like, old Shelby rev that engine right at the beginning of the game. [00:03:51] Speaker A: Yep, yep, yep. [00:03:53] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:03:54] Speaker D: And then just like, I don't know. Just like. I don't know what the chant would be, but something. They could come up with something cool, but that would be, like, sick because you could, like, rev that thing up. You wouldn't even need to put speakers in that. I bet you could get that thing loud enough on its own for people to be like, oh, absolutely. [00:04:12] Speaker C: What if it was instead of a Ford car, it was the golf cart that Matt Patricia used to drive in. [00:04:18] Speaker D: Oh, God. [00:04:21] Speaker C: Ian, that's a really good one. I like Kyle, do you have one? [00:04:24] Speaker A: The best one. I have a beginning of the game ritual that I think would be really good for all the fans. Great. Would be at the beginning of New York Giants games if all the Fans just left, just walked out of the stadium. That would probably be the best thing that everyone could do. [00:04:48] Speaker D: Would they do that for both New York teams? Because I feel like they are both an embarrassment. [00:04:55] Speaker A: I think that's a great ritual that they should start. [00:04:56] Speaker D: I thought the jets actually do have. [00:04:58] Speaker A: Something better with their team. [00:04:59] Speaker C: People in Miami for all games do that, but they'd show up late. [00:05:02] Speaker A: Oh, okay. The ritual that I. That I came up with. [00:05:07] Speaker C: Give us a real answer. [00:05:08] Speaker A: Is. Is if the fans in New Orleans would put their hands together in a praying motion and start doing Gregorian chant. You know, just. Do they. Do the saints. You know, I like it. [00:05:23] Speaker D: Do they do anything with like this? Oh, and the Saints marching in. When the Saints go marching. [00:05:31] Speaker C: Copyright. Copyright. What about. What if they just hit with a new bikari toss? Whoa. A little Father Bernie in there. Shout out Father Bernie. [00:05:40] Speaker A: Having a whole stadium singing, chanted together would be kind of be pretty sick. [00:05:46] Speaker C: I'd be mesmerized. Yeah, I got a good one. It's. I'm going off script to not a football team. Oh, we're missing it. In Michigan that the Detroit Tigers need to start their game with Eat Them Up, Tigers. There was a homeless man that lived in Jackson or in Jackson in Detroit, sat outside of the games, who recently, within the last, I don't know, five years, passed away. Do you guys know who I'm talking about or. No idea. He would sit outside of the games. If you ever went to a game, you heard him. He go, eat them up, Tigers. Eat them up. Eat them up, dog. The whole day that game is happening. Wow. He. And he was known as Eat him up, Tigers guy. [00:06:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:27] Speaker C: And recently passed away. Tigers are missing a huge opportunity by not having Eat Them up, Tigers be part of that. [00:06:33] Speaker D: Was that recent? [00:06:34] Speaker C: Pretty recently, yeah. So maybe they will next year. Maybe send them an email. [00:06:40] Speaker A: I like that. [00:06:41] Speaker C: A strongly worded letter, perhaps. Oh, double the stamp. By the way, I heard a hack on. You don't stamp anything. You just put the. Flip the addresses and then they just return it to. Not the return address. That is actually the place you want to send it. Did I just hack the mailing system? [00:06:58] Speaker D: I hope the post office just didn't listen to this. [00:07:00] Speaker A: Oh, my. [00:07:01] Speaker C: Let's start this over, guys. Hold on. Just kidding. All right, guys, we got some hot takes, some Twitter prompts. My Twitter prompts. I mean, we got our mail bag, and we're gonna listen to the one and only Commish. [00:07:20] Speaker B: This is Adam Silver, AKA the Commish. And this is the Commish Report. Nice game, but it was only due to the fact that it was, you know, stopper. So my only real complaint is moody. Two kicks that don't land in the landing zone. Really? Come on. The guy never seems to have a clean game. Simply an overdrafted kicker that we will live to see blow yet another future game. Count on it. Moving on, the Rams up next. A big test for the defense, but also an opportunity for the offense against a team that gave up 42 points today. Probably going to have to win three out of four, especially with the Seahawks two up the division now to have a chance at playing in the postseason. And this game is an absolute must since I really don't envision beating the Lions right now. Yeah, well, there's always that and there's always next year. So with that hashtag onlifesupport, this was the Commish Report. [00:08:11] Speaker C: Probably one of my favorite hashtags so far that he's given us. Hashtag on life support. That's pretty funny. Good job, commission. [00:08:18] Speaker D: What was the stat that came out of that Bears game for the first. [00:08:21] Speaker C: Half that they had 2 yards and then the 49ers had 310? [00:08:25] Speaker D: It was like the running joke was if you moved, like from your couch to the TV remote or why did we pick? [00:08:32] Speaker A: Why did you. And I picked the Bears. [00:08:33] Speaker C: I woke up, not only did he pick the Bears, I locked. He locked them. And his upset pick. He said, guys, first time all year. I just gotta do it once every season. [00:08:44] Speaker A: You infected me with your madness. I woke up that morning thinking oddly of, I never think about changing my picks. I never do. [00:08:51] Speaker D: I never think about the Bears. [00:08:53] Speaker A: I never think about changing those picks. And I thought, why did I pick the Bears? That's dumb. I should go change that. I still got time. Nah, I'm too busy. [00:09:00] Speaker C: I looked at 28. 9 and was like, Buddy, I didn't even. Or 24, nothing. I was like, we're hurting right now. [00:09:06] Speaker D: But I didn't even know the score of that game because I was watching a much better game. [00:09:10] Speaker C: I could tell because you didn't say anything until it was 24 to 3. [00:09:13] Speaker D: I was like, I did not even. [00:09:14] Speaker C: Awkward. [00:09:15] Speaker D: Didn't even realize it was that big of a blowout because I was watching the Bills and the Rams. Great game. [00:09:20] Speaker C: Great game. [00:09:21] Speaker D: Absolute awesome game. And then, yeah, I was like, oh, no. But I thought they would get the new coach, bump their offense. The last couple weeks had started to look a lot better. [00:09:31] Speaker C: Even Eber Fluss couldn't give the new coach, Bump. [00:09:34] Speaker D: Oh, just the commission. [00:09:37] Speaker C: I like that. The commissions. Last week it was, I'm done with this team. I don't want to hear about him until the off season. I'm ready for the off season. Hashtag, let it be June. You know, he's a fan, and now he's like, all right. But our kicker, like, he's like. He's kind of. I like the commentary that he has. So. Jake Moody always thought he was overrated. He choked a couple games in Michigan, and I always enjoyed it. So I'm like, oh, he's going to San Fran. That's going to bite him in the ass. So I'm excited to hear that. [00:10:06] Speaker A: In the Booty, you mean? Oh, sorry. [00:10:08] Speaker C: Something like that. Oh, you get it. Booty. That's his name. Guys, anything else you guys would say about San Fran? [00:10:18] Speaker D: You guys remember Jake Boot? Was it Jay Booty? Tight end from Michigan. [00:10:23] Speaker A: Oh, but, yeah, Jake. [00:10:25] Speaker D: But Jake. But whatever happened to him? [00:10:27] Speaker C: He got injured and didn't play any kin. He, like, got hurt in, like, the first game of his career. [00:10:32] Speaker A: Who drafted him? [00:10:33] Speaker C: I'll have to look that up. I'll get back to you. [00:10:35] Speaker A: Yeah, okay. [00:10:36] Speaker C: Anyway, any other takes we got on San Fran? Right there. Same. [00:10:39] Speaker A: Fran. I am excited, honestly. All due respect to the commission, one of my favorite people in the world. I'm excited to stop talking about the Niners, and I'm really hopeful that they don't make the playoffs because they always knock out one of my teams. [00:10:51] Speaker D: You got to at least annihilate them with the Packers. [00:10:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Wait, no, we didn't. Not last year. [00:11:00] Speaker D: No, this, like, what, two weeks ago? Didn't you guys annihilate. [00:11:04] Speaker C: Yes, yes. [00:11:04] Speaker A: Yes. [00:11:05] Speaker D: The packers did. [00:11:05] Speaker A: They did. In the regular season. Yeah. [00:11:07] Speaker C: I think he's more referring to every other time they played season. [00:11:10] Speaker A: The Niners, postseason. [00:11:11] Speaker D: Yeah. The Niners beat both the packers and the Lions. [00:11:14] Speaker A: Yes. It's. It's an annual tradition to have high packers season hopes and just be bounced out by the Niners. Get out of here. [00:11:21] Speaker D: Darn Niners. [00:11:22] Speaker A: I'm not going to feel too sorry for them, but I love Adam. [00:11:24] Speaker D: They're not statistically out of it yet. [00:11:27] Speaker C: You send us a voice recording of your team, we don't care who it is. We're playing it. [00:11:31] Speaker D: Absolutely. [00:11:32] Speaker C: We are for sale. Okay. [00:11:34] Speaker D: They're not out of. They're not out of it, though. I mean, they're not. They don't control their fate. But four games, if they win out and they get some help, they could be in. [00:11:44] Speaker A: It's an unfortunate seat. It's sad that the. It's. There's a little bit of sadness over how the season went. [00:11:49] Speaker C: Now, that's a team. This is wrong. That's a team that we've all agreed was a playoff team, but they're. They're. I don't know who's a team that Jamie Heslow writes in. Who is a team that no one is talking about but you would be afraid to face in the playoffs? Ian, you were kind of looking over, hey, this feels like it's a lock for what the playoffs would be for this side of the conferences. The other side's a little bit more open. You went through those teams of the conferences. You look at it, who's the team that you're afraid to play? [00:12:23] Speaker A: That's not obvious. That's. [00:12:24] Speaker D: That's not obvious. [00:12:25] Speaker A: That's not an obvious one. [00:12:26] Speaker D: I would have said the Rams, but I think everybody's kind of on watch for them now, so I don't actually think they're going to fly under the radar because of how explosive they were against the Bills. [00:12:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:37] Speaker D: So I don't know if I would say the Rams. I think. I would say. I think maybe the Broncos. They're a team that no one's really talking about, but they have a lot of promise to them. They're playing pretty good football. They're. They're 8 and 5. They are currently going to make the playoffs. I actually think they will probably be in the playoffs. [00:13:01] Speaker A: They got a good chance. I got a good one. I know what I'm going with. I'm going with the Minnesota Vikings. [00:13:07] Speaker D: Everybody's talking about Minnesota Vikings. [00:13:10] Speaker A: No. [00:13:10] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:13:11] Speaker A: Not as, like, real threats. Come on. What are you talking about? Everybody's talking about the Broncos. [00:13:17] Speaker C: I think, honestly saying a team that is 10 and 2, I don't know if every 2, 11 and 2. [00:13:23] Speaker D: I don't know if I buy the fact that no one's talking about them. They've been. People have been talking about them all year. I'm going to. [00:13:30] Speaker C: But I will say he's the third. They're the third team in their division even though they aren't third place. People put the packers above the Vikings. [00:13:39] Speaker D: Pretty consistently crazy about the Vikings. They could lose their division and go in as a five seed and potentially have 15 wins. [00:13:49] Speaker C: That's bonko. [00:13:50] Speaker A: Wow. Wow. [00:13:52] Speaker D: I don't actually know if they'll have 15 wins, but every week, as a Lions fan, I watch them and I'm like, how? [00:13:58] Speaker C: Why? [00:13:59] Speaker D: Please lose a Game. Please. I was so hopeful that the Eagles and the Vikings were going to lose. I shouldn't have trusted. [00:14:09] Speaker C: I'm fairly confident that at one point Justin Matson wrote into us and said he was. You're robbing me of my J.J. mcCarthy days. For Sam Darnold who threw five touchdowns to two different or two receivers combined for his five touchdowns between Addison and Jefferson. [00:14:26] Speaker A: Right. [00:14:27] Speaker D: Bald out Falcons. There was a clip that was circulating. I don't even know the safety's name. I don't even know who he was. He was terrible. They. They showed a play on a. It was one of Jefferson's touchdowns where he was just wide open. This corner just looked completely lost. He was tracking with Jefferson. Turned around, ran the opposite direction right of the actual guy. [00:14:54] Speaker C: It was embarrassing. [00:14:56] Speaker D: Flipped around and then what I would. [00:14:58] Speaker A: Look like out there. I'm sure only half the spe. [00:15:02] Speaker C: Except you'd be on the 30. [00:15:04] Speaker A: Right. [00:15:04] Speaker D: He turned around. There's way like Jefferson was like half a mile away from him and then he trips and it's like what? [00:15:12] Speaker C: It's Bonko. It was Bonko. I'll tell you the team for me that I don't want to play. I don't want to play the Steelers. [00:15:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:20] Speaker C: That's like I don't want to play the Steelers. I saw on Twitter a text. You know when they say like the wife is texting her husband and says hey did you wash the dishes? And he sends a picture of Russell Wilson and she goes what's that mean? He goes, not washed. [00:15:36] Speaker D: I like Jamie's pick. Honestly. [00:15:38] Speaker C: Jamie picked the bucks. That's part of his question was he got bucks. [00:15:41] Speaker D: I actually. [00:15:42] Speaker C: But you love Baker. [00:15:43] Speaker D: I do love Baker, but I actually would have potentially taken them if he didn't. The only reason I didn't say Bucks is because he did and I didn't want to take what he already did. [00:15:51] Speaker A: I like that you scoffed my Vikings pick with. With a 10 win team and you went with a 10 win team that's actually leading their division. Like that's. [00:15:58] Speaker C: But I don't think people are talking about them. I think people are talking about Vikings either. I agree. Hey. I'm in agreement. I backed you up. He didn't. Okay. [00:16:06] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. Okay. [00:16:06] Speaker D: I mean come on too. [00:16:09] Speaker A: I'd be intimidated by Seahawks have a high upside. They can. [00:16:13] Speaker D: I like that pick. [00:16:14] Speaker A: It seems like they're getting their act together at the right time. [00:16:16] Speaker D: Who's their coach again? I can't remember his name. [00:16:18] Speaker A: Mike McDonald. [00:16:19] Speaker D: Mike McDonald. [00:16:20] Speaker C: Why? [00:16:20] Speaker D: I keep thinking of like Mike McDaniels. [00:16:23] Speaker A: No. Mike McDonald brought a great game plan to that Arizona game this past weekend, and they took full advantage of it. [00:16:30] Speaker C: Yeah, I was mad picking Arizona on that one. That hurt me. [00:16:34] Speaker D: I had hopes for Arizona because they're spicy when they want to be. But I like the. I like the Seahawks pick more than the Vikings. [00:16:44] Speaker C: Now, we talked about the good Justin Manson. We were just talking about him with the Vikings. He has a good question for us of the opposite genre. His question is, and I quote, slap the booty label on a good team and explain why they are booty. So who's a team that you, like, look at and just, nah, they're booty moody. [00:17:01] Speaker A: Booty means bad, right? [00:17:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. Thank you. [00:17:04] Speaker C: So hit me with it. [00:17:06] Speaker D: I mean, there's an obvious choice here, I think. [00:17:09] Speaker A: Is there really? [00:17:10] Speaker D: Oh, I think I would put the booty label on the Chiefs. [00:17:15] Speaker A: Okay. [00:17:16] Speaker C: Man. [00:17:17] Speaker D: I use. [00:17:18] Speaker C: I can't wait for. I can't wait for Jamie to hear this, and he is going to write a diatribe at you. [00:17:24] Speaker D: That's fine. I don't care. I. I think the Chiefs. I welcome it. The Chiefs. [00:17:30] Speaker A: I'm not doing this. I'm not on board. [00:17:32] Speaker C: You don't think you're on the boat by yourself? [00:17:35] Speaker D: No, no, no, no, no. Look, am I going to be surprised if the Chiefs happen to go and win another Super Bowl? Absolutely not. Because how could you say they're booty. [00:17:43] Speaker C: And they could win the super bowl. [00:17:45] Speaker D: Because for a 12 and 1 team, they have the worst point differential ever, plus 56. They are. But what's weird is they are. They're like 14 and. Oh. In one score game. [00:18:00] Speaker A: I've never seen anything like us. None of this. None of us have ever seen there. [00:18:04] Speaker D: Is in kind of. There's like, some black magic going on here. [00:18:09] Speaker A: That's what it looks like. [00:18:10] Speaker D: And when I texted, like, what the. Like, what a chief's way to win a game, Marshall scoffed at me because he was like, why? They grinded it out, and that was. [00:18:17] Speaker C: Like, call me, Jared Scoff from no one. [00:18:20] Speaker D: They did grind out the win. It's not that they. If they kicked a normal field goal and made it, no one would have been like, oh, yeah, okay, the Chiefs look good because they did look good for a majority of the game. They. They fought really hard against a good Chargers team, if I'm being honest. But the way they won that game with that particular. How many teams have you watched kick that same field goal that the Chiefs did hits the post? The dude shanks it absolutely shanks. That thing hits the upright and doinks in. That's insane luck. [00:18:55] Speaker C: So you're calling them booty because of that? [00:18:58] Speaker D: Not one play. I'm saying that is insanely lucky that they actually had that particular. It hit in the exact spot emblematic of their. So then just go right in the upright. But I'm not done. Then you have the Denver game. [00:19:15] Speaker A: Right. [00:19:16] Speaker D: There's a little bit of luck involved in getting a blocked field goal. Now. We've had kind of an awkward amount this year. It feels like there's been a lot of block field goals or punts or things. There's kind of been a lot. There was two yesterday. [00:19:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:30] Speaker D: Both of which were absolutely crazy. [00:19:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:33] Speaker D: Right. The. The Bengals one. The dude. By the way, fun fact. The dude who allowed the Bengals player who allowed the block punt to happen because he missed his assignment was the same dude who recovered the fumble that. I just thought that was hilarious. That he went from, like, villain. He went from villain to. To hero in, like, a matter of a play. [00:20:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes that. That's the. The determination you need. [00:20:05] Speaker D: You have the Raiders game where they just messed up the snap and then they just happened to, like, fail and the time runs out on them. Like, that's. That's three games they got really lucky on in terms of how things panned out, honestly. [00:20:23] Speaker A: Yep. [00:20:24] Speaker D: And they. They don't look. In a lot of those games. They just don't look pretty. And people give the Chiefs a pass because it's like, well, they're the defending super bowl champs. They got their back to back. They have Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. They're probably going to figure it out in the playoffs. And yeah, they. Maybe they will, but I don't know. I could see a better team with a more explosive offense like the Bills. Yeah. Take it to them. [00:20:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:53] Speaker D: Or they go up against a defense that makes it really hard for them to move the ball. Like the Steelers. I think the Steelers are really, like, scary team for a lot of the AFC side because of their defense. [00:21:10] Speaker A: I'll slap my sticker on the Ravens. As hard as it is to do, because I'd love to see that team go really far. But special teams is going to lose them a playoff game and they're going to get exploited defensively. Yep. [00:21:25] Speaker D: And they've already been exploited. [00:21:29] Speaker A: It's going to be frustrating to watch. I. I can't believe their postseasons are always frustrating. Like, why is this happening? This isn't right. [00:21:36] Speaker D: I can't believe they've lost five games. [00:21:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:40] Speaker D: Like for how great Lamar is. [00:21:43] Speaker A: It's just kind of their office is very effective. The quarterback is putting up the best numbers of any quarterback in the league. And. And you're still. Your record is still like this. And you're losing games by special teams and defense very consistently. Can't get it together. [00:21:57] Speaker D: That's a good pick. [00:21:59] Speaker C: You know, I think the easy pick for this are teams like the Falcons, like San Fran, like Dallas, like the Bengals. These teams that have underperformed for us. I'm going to go kind of what Ian was saying. I'm going to stick the booty label on the Lions. The Lions have had three games that just don't add up for me. Of. They got really lucky. I mean, if we're looking at the stats here, they got really, really lucky that Jared Goff didn't fumble when he knocked the. When he fell down on the handoff to get the game winner. They were lucky that Justin Fields and company didn't know how to manage Glock and they were also lucky that they won the coin toss to get overtime against the Rams Week one. So those are three games that I'm going to choose to pick that the Lions are booty. [00:22:48] Speaker D: I think what all of this says. I think any team is sus. When you get to the playoffs, it takes one bad game. It really does. It really. Like, I mean we've seen it happen before. I think any of these teams could lose in the playoffs. I don't think there's a single team in the playoffs right now that I'm like they're unstoppable, all of them. [00:23:13] Speaker C: Have you also look at it and say any of those teams could win at all? [00:23:17] Speaker D: 100%. [00:23:17] Speaker C: That's crazy. I don't. I don't know if I can say that I legitimately. [00:23:21] Speaker D: Maybe not all of them, but I could see the Vikings doing it. I would not be surprised. [00:23:27] Speaker C: Is that kind of why you were fighting Kyle's point of like they're. [00:23:31] Speaker D: I. Because I feel like. [00:23:32] Speaker C: I think you have a lot of respect as a division person that you keep seeing them in the standings not go down the game. [00:23:38] Speaker D: It's so frustrating. [00:23:39] Speaker C: It's banging your head against so. [00:23:41] Speaker D: And the packers too. I know The packers are 1 and 4 in the division. They really only have three wins against teams with winning records, which is sometimes a little suspect for teams when they get that. Sometimes that kind of gets exposed. But I do think offensively I like what Matt Lafleur, how he uses that team. I Think they're a very. They play good teams, close, and they are really, honestly a really tough out. And I think if people had to play, like, the packers would be another pick you could choose as a team that's very, like, scary to play in the playoffs. I don't want to play the packers again. It's really hard to beat a team three times. Really hard. [00:24:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:27] Speaker D: I could see them winning the wild card round, and they're either going to be six or seven seed. We would have to play them. [00:24:34] Speaker C: You know, we're talking about what's booty. And the thing for me is, like, my point I'm trying to prove with you, Ian, is that picking three games and picking three random things that are going on in these games and saying that they're. That's hard for me to look at and say that team's, like, not good. I just have a hard time with that. And that's kind of my. It's not. [00:24:54] Speaker D: None of these teams are not good. All of the teams. [00:24:58] Speaker C: That's the definition of booty. But that's what Ian. That's what Kyle said is. [00:25:01] Speaker D: But I think every single one of us can agree the teams we chose are all good teams. You're not going to sit there and tell me the Lions are a bad team because of a couple outs? Because I could counter that. I know actually, like, think the Lions are a great team. Are they the best team in NFL? I hate that. I don't actually think there is a best team in the NFL right now. [00:25:20] Speaker C: It's funny to hear you say that because every media outlet has them. As I've never in my life heard it before. The number one, they've been, like, pretty cool. [00:25:30] Speaker A: Can I just say I'm wearing a lion's shirt, right? Like, this is. This is. I am at the point where, like, enough people have, like, kind of made jokes about me putting on some Lions carrot and. And I'm getting a little. [00:25:41] Speaker C: You. You enjoy it. Are you soaking up the haterade? [00:25:44] Speaker A: Yeah, a little bit. Now I'm kind of, like, digging my heels in. [00:25:50] Speaker C: Turn from Kyle Maurer. [00:25:51] Speaker A: Now I'm at the point where, like, I. I'm com. I'm calling other people out. I'm coming back at everybody else and saying, like, if you're not on board with. If you're not, like, into the Lions right now, I don't think you like football. [00:26:03] Speaker D: Here's the thing. [00:26:04] Speaker C: There's a clap in there, guys. High five. [00:26:06] Speaker A: This is a special team. You don't like football. If you don't like the Lions right now, right. They are like the most likable team that I've ever seen. This is historic moment. Their short term story, like a recent history is as good as it gets. And I'm in the NFL for the stories, okay? And this is as good. Their long term story is as good as it gets. This is the laughing stock of the league for half a century and now, now they're ascending this like it's got everything you could ask for in a sports story. [00:26:34] Speaker D: With a historic offense to boot. [00:26:36] Speaker A: That's the cast offs the underdogs like the. It's got everything. [00:26:41] Speaker C: I am welcoming Justin Matson to write in why the Lions are not likable. And let's end it on that point. [00:26:47] Speaker A: Well, no, no, bring it on. [00:26:50] Speaker D: I don't want to just like end it because the Lions. One of the things that I think the Lions have that nobody else has is Dan Campbell. The stones on that man, y'all wish. [00:27:05] Speaker A: You had Dan Campbell. [00:27:06] Speaker D: Here's the thing. Some coaches get in their team's way, I think that has been a criticism of Sirianni, by the way, is that he would get in his team's way of their success. They would be successful in spite of him. Eber Fluss got in his team's way. We've seen teams with coaches that take them, their team out of it. That game against Green Bay though, that was a team with a coach that helped make them better than what they were on the field with what they're performing. 4 out of 5 4th down attempts. [00:27:44] Speaker C: And the one they missed was in their own, on their own 27. [00:27:47] Speaker D: Right. Just. And what. Here's what blew me away about that game, by the way, because we haven't really talked about this game and I really wanted to because there was a couple things that happened in that game that people didn't really talk about. They really focused on the fourth down at the very end to convert so that they didn't have to give the back to Green Bay. I think most people were like, that was very risky. But I liked it. I liked the call, obviously, because they won because of it. But they ended the second half with the ball and they had a six minute drive, six minutes. They just wiped out the clock. [00:28:23] Speaker A: So it's a clinic. That was just how you do it. [00:28:26] Speaker D: A pure coaching like perfection as far as I was concerned. The way they managed the clock, the way they chose their plays to make sure that they weren't going too fast because they didn't want to give the ball back to Green Bay so that they could go and do the whole thing where they get a touchdown before the half and then get a touchdown after the half. They perfectly executed it. So they were the last ones with the ball at the end of the half. And they went in 10 points up. And you can't tell me watching the first half of the game, that defense, that defense had one starter that was on the team week one on their front seven. [00:29:07] Speaker A: Wow. [00:29:08] Speaker D: Their front seven had only one guy that they started this season with. Everybody else. Zedaria Smith was brought in a few weeks before. Former Packer, by the way, Aleem McNeil eventually went out with a concussion, I think halfway through the first or second quarter. Very early, very early. Jack Campbell was the only one on that front seven. And they got, they got to love quickly. [00:29:36] Speaker C: Did you hear the end of the game that they said they weren't actually going to go for it? Like, if you, you can see Campbell, I mean, they interviewed Goff at the end and they said Goff basically went to him and Campbell goes, we're going to kick it. Puts his hand over his mouth, says, we're going to kick it. And Goff sighs, looks down, and then says, really? Campbell looks at him and says, effort. We're going to kick. We're going for it. Forget about it. We're going for it. Throws his hand off to Ben Johnson and that run back on the field like it's a lot of. It's the stones on him, but it's also the. Like his team is bought into. Oh, yeah, they're going to go for it enough on fourth down throughout the entire game that they're going to flip the math on what going for fourth down is that going for fourth. They're playing third downs knowing they only need that they could do this in two plays. There's so many games that's the unique part of, like, the math of, like, what the Lions truly are playing. That is really interesting because to go 4 for 5 is. That's crazy. But they're all in very critical moments. Like, even the one they missed is critical, but because they do it so often, because they have that mindset, their third down plays are different than every NFL team. They're a team, they run for it on 3rd and 9 and get it pretty darn consistently. [00:30:54] Speaker D: I've seen them run it on 4th and 5 and get it their bottom. [00:30:57] Speaker C: Half of passing offenses in the NFL in terms of efficiency, even though golf has been great, they're a running team. Like, they're Getting these plays on fourth down, majority of them on runs. They're creative play calling. They're. They're fascinating. So I don't want it to seem like I'm not. [00:31:14] Speaker D: Oh no, I know. [00:31:14] Speaker C: Skipping over the Lions. [00:31:16] Speaker D: I got you. We talk about them a lot. [00:31:17] Speaker C: We talk go from one great team. Let's talk about the opposite. The Booty bowl, as G would put it. G writes in, after watching the duel between Will Levis and Mack Jones, doesn't this legitimize. Legitimize the contracts that are given to average at best quarterbacks. Trevor Lawrence, Kirk Cousins. Because there are so many awful guys out there. And he writes in, you have $15 million, you're a GM. Who do you sign? Will Levis, Mack Jones, Anthony Richardson, Joe Flacco or Tom Brady? [00:31:54] Speaker A: I love these questions. G, you're the best. [00:31:56] Speaker D: Are we taking Tom Brady right now? Right now. [00:31:59] Speaker C: So he plastic surgery and all. No voice calling the game. Did you know he had no voice yesterday calling the game? Did you hear that? [00:32:06] Speaker A: You could tell he was watching second of football. [00:32:08] Speaker C: He is literally in there talking about, yeah, what do you do if you don't have a voice? And I've been drinking tea this entire. [00:32:16] Speaker D: But it was awful. [00:32:17] Speaker C: He's like cracking through that. Like it was. It wasn't as bad. I'm obviously catastrophizing what he's saying, but. [00:32:23] Speaker D: He was pretty raspy. [00:32:23] Speaker C: It was, it was rough. [00:32:25] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. [00:32:27] Speaker C: What do you, what do you do of you losing your voice? It's like you're the professional. I don't know. [00:32:31] Speaker A: But I love these questions from gg. You're impeccable. You're incredible. You're an asset to this show and we owe you our thanks. And the first question. I really enjoyed the duel. You're a genius. I think, yes. I think you're on point that big contracts to above average quarterbacks are completely justified because this game, this sport is unwatchable with bottom half quarterbacks. It's just like these contests are. These are meaningless, pointless exercises unless you're quarterback is competent. So if the price tag is really high in a significant percentage of your salary cap just to get us give us watchable football. Watchable. Let's, let's stop having these games with, with Mac Jones and Will Levis and, and these other guys and let's get back to just like the top 15 dudes. [00:33:22] Speaker C: Couldn't you say Kirk Cousins was. Has been unwatchable the last four weeks. [00:33:26] Speaker D: Say Kirk Cousins in the last four games, eight interceptions to zero. Touchdowns. [00:33:32] Speaker C: Does that throw that? [00:33:34] Speaker D: And he got paid 180 million. [00:33:35] Speaker A: Well, yeah. [00:33:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:38] Speaker D: Is it Penn time? Is it Penix time? [00:33:42] Speaker C: I'm in on panics. [00:33:43] Speaker A: That could be. You're changing. You're changing my argument to zoom in on a particular player. But sorry. And that's. And that's fine. [00:33:49] Speaker C: Kirk's season is fair. [00:33:50] Speaker A: Look at his season is. Is going downhill. [00:33:53] Speaker C: Drew Lock. [00:33:55] Speaker A: Drew. We don't. We don't want to see that. [00:33:57] Speaker C: We're watching Drew Lock get a great drive at the end, and we're like, God, that was great for them to get a field goal. [00:34:02] Speaker D: Drew Lock. I don't think it was this week. It was definitely last week when he did this. I don't know we even know who they were playing. I don't even care. But he was. He ran the ball. He ran the ball and purposefully looked like he dipped into the defense and got tackled immediately. Like he had a wide open hole yesterday and he ran to the right, right into somebody, and it was like, what are you doing? [00:34:28] Speaker A: This is what fans have to realize. You have to accept this reality as the norm. Like, you don't get to say, pass on Trevor Lawrence or Jalen Herz or who Or Justin Herbert or anybody that you think got overpaid and then get, you know, the next guy. Get. You know, it's interesting to hear this. [00:34:49] Speaker C: Perspective from a Packer fan who's been blessed with three generational quarterbacks in a row. [00:34:54] Speaker A: That's kind of an anomaly, the exception to the rule. But you have to accept that. It's like, you let Trevor Lawrence walk, you get Mac Jones or Drew Locke. This is what you get. That's normally what you should expect from. [00:35:07] Speaker D: My experience, because for a long time, Stafford was in this conversation. Is he worth paying? Because the Lions were terrible. [00:35:15] Speaker C: Isn't that funny? [00:35:16] Speaker D: Stafford. I mean, obviously Lions fans who actively watched the games knew Stafford wasn't really the problem, but he was in this category of like. Like the Cousins, almost sure. Is he worth paying him this much? Are you better off? [00:35:30] Speaker C: Is he really top 10? Right. [00:35:31] Speaker D: Is he really that good? [00:35:33] Speaker A: Right. [00:35:33] Speaker D: And for a lot of Lions fans, he was the only reason you would turn the TV on. He was the only reason. [00:35:37] Speaker C: And for Rams, he was the reason they won the Super Bowl. But I will say, to counter your point. [00:35:41] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:35:42] Speaker C: To counter your point, Kyle, to just be devil's advocate, you're doing that. Not for a long time. You're going the Mac Jones route because you're investing in. I'm going to tank Right now so that I can get a Shador. [00:35:55] Speaker D: Yeah, I would agree to a sense. [00:35:58] Speaker A: That you can do that. [00:36:00] Speaker C: How many times have the Philadelphia 76ers tanked to get the number one pick, to get more lottery balls, to get more chances at a Victor Wembanyama, at a Joel embiId? I'm going NBA. I know I'm going off board, but, like. [00:36:12] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:36:13] Speaker C: How many. I mean, if I'm the Giants right now, if I have four picks in the first three rounds, I'm picking four quarterbacks because I got to hit on one of them. I have to. [00:36:24] Speaker A: I have to. [00:36:25] Speaker C: The odds are in my favor. [00:36:26] Speaker D: I have to. [00:36:27] Speaker A: It doesn't really work that way, but it has. [00:36:30] Speaker C: I'm get. Give me more shots at it. You're telling me that there is luck involved in the draft. Tom Brady was 199. You just don't. You cannot tell me that Bill Belichick was sitting there and his great scouting all of a sudden got him Tom Brady. And that's why he's like, so. No, he got lucky on that. There's a part of that, like, of course, give me more shots of getting a great quarterback. [00:36:55] Speaker A: Some of this is you just have to know that the odds are not in your favor. Like, you. You should. You should. This is. You should adjust your expectations. If you've got somebody who's above average, who you can, like, win games with if the situation is right. Don't let go of that lightly just because these are. I think people let go of it lightly because the price tags just look so staggering to us. But, you know, you had to put it in perspective and recognize that the overwhelming majority, the ads, the odds are highly in the favor of you getting, like, a bottom five quarterback. [00:37:28] Speaker D: There's two, like, almost sides to this. There's like, the business side where you want to pay a guy like Trevor Lawrence because he makes your team just a little bit easier to watch. And then there's like, the GM side where you're like, yeah, Trevor Lawrence is fine. He's decent, but he's not going to be the guy that gets us there. If we really want to progress our team to a point where we want to be competitive and going to a Super bowl, he's not the guy. [00:37:57] Speaker C: Who are we kidding in this, then, Ian? [00:38:00] Speaker D: And here, If I have $15 million and I have to pick one of these guys, I would take Anthony Richardson. [00:38:06] Speaker C: That's my pick, too. And it's an unpopular one because I think he had the most upside. He may he may be this year, he might be this year. Our most overrated player in the NFL in my opinion. We walked into the season saying that guy was a guaranteed rushing touchdown and passing touchdown in every game that he played. And he got injured and we just haven't seen him a lot. I'm penciling in him to throw a hand. I mean maybe nine, 10 interceptions, but he's going to rush and run for rush and pass for one every game. [00:38:39] Speaker D: So this actually kind of does beg the question though. You have Cousins, you have Penix, you have a guy who is clearly you thought was going to be the one to take to the promised land. Maybe it's not. And then you got a guy who's supposed to be your future. [00:38:51] Speaker A: Right? [00:38:52] Speaker D: You're, you are slowly losing grip on your season. Do you stick with Cousins because you think he's given you the best chance to because your division's still close? That's the crazy thing, they can still win this division. Or are you going to put in the penix and you don't really know what you have? [00:39:12] Speaker A: Right. [00:39:13] Speaker D: He could end up messing you up a little bit worse and you cough up the division. [00:39:18] Speaker A: Right. [00:39:18] Speaker D: Or do you stick with Cousins and because you think he's the best shot, what would you do? [00:39:24] Speaker C: I gotta tell you, my take on it is I think you, first of all, I don't think the entire seasons that Cousins has been healthy, period. [00:39:33] Speaker A: Right? [00:39:34] Speaker C: Yeah, he needs to sit and get healthy. So sit, get healthy. First of all, you losing games and getting a better draft pick is okay with me because this is the same team that picked Kyle Pitts over Jamar Chase, who right now leads the league in yards, receptions and receiving touchdowns. He has the triple crown right now in the NFL. So yeah, give me a better draft pick so I can not do that again. And you don't get game reps. You know how you get game reps in a game. You are not going to see what Michael Penix is like in an NFL game until he's in it. Preseason is not a game. That's why getting Spencer Rattler for the Saints and giving him reps, they drafted him of, dude, have you seen this guy in practice? He's been dotting up the New Orleans Saints defense that we have said for years is very reputable. But he goes in the game. And you said before our pod, I joked we already had the Spencer Rattler game. And I said the tape's out on him and you're like, one game. I'm like, sometimes that's what The NFL needs. They need six weeks to watch a quarterback. They had six weeks to watch Spencer Rattler. The tape's out on him potentially. We'll see this upcoming week when they play Washington. But I got to say that I think I would rather improve my. What? They're going to win the division to get their absolute doors beat off by the. By the Eagles. That's what. That's what our prize is. To have seven Tush pushes and Saquon jump over me backwards doing a somersault. [00:41:00] Speaker A: A playoff appearance is not meaningless to a franchise. Really, fan base. It's not meaningless. I feel like it's not. [00:41:07] Speaker C: Would you rather be a team that goes to the playoffs and gets beaten the first round? You. By the way, you know they're going to get beaten the first round. [00:41:14] Speaker A: That depends on the team. Every team's situation is a little bit different. Their expectations are different, what the fan bases have gone through. [00:41:20] Speaker C: Ian just said there's all these teams that could lose any of these games. I'm not worried. None of these games are guaranteed to win. But when I said are there a lot. Any team in there that you think could win the super bowl, you stopped. That's a team that you know is not winning the Super Bowl. [00:41:36] Speaker D: Yeah, they're probably too inconsistent. They've had some good games. They beat the Eagles. [00:41:41] Speaker A: They're not a strong team. They're not a strong team. [00:41:43] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:41:43] Speaker A: I would still contend that you'd start panics if you are like, if you're at peace with your season being over. [00:41:50] Speaker D: Yeah, I would agree. I. Because my thought is maybe ride Cousins out for a couple more games. [00:41:55] Speaker C: I probably would. [00:41:56] Speaker A: You're paying him a lot. You have high expectations for him. So, like, he needs to be held to a high standard. Get out there, perform. That's what you're being paid for. He's gone through slumps before. We've seen him play good games this season and win them games. You need to get out there and do that. And if we're actually seriously trying to win our division and have holding out to our trying to get a playoff position, we got to go with our veteran guy that we're paying a ton of money to and knowing that, you know, again, the odds are much greater if we're starting our rookie who was not even one of the top prospects this year. We're starting our rookie. He's going to need some growing time and we should expect the start of his season to be like what we saw from Caleb Williams or Bo Nicks or something. Like rocky start, slow start, a lot of reps needed. Get him in position before he's catching his groove. That's next season. Here's next season. [00:42:46] Speaker D: Here's what I think is going to happen if they lose to the Raiders. Cousins is out. I think they're just going to. I think. Well, because. [00:42:54] Speaker C: For real, you think so? [00:42:55] Speaker D: I think so because the Falcons are sitting at 6 and 7. They'll go down to 6 and 8 if they lose to the Raiders. I don't know if a nine win team is getting into the playoffs right now, not on the NFC side. [00:43:08] Speaker C: Okay, so this is a big game for them. [00:43:10] Speaker D: So if so, if they lose to the Raiders, I think their season's done statistically, they might say, oh well, we still have a chance and maybe they'll take him one more game. But I think if they lose, I'm like, you have now had five games then in a row where he has failed you. You got to see what the other guy's got. You have to at a certain point because your season's essentially done. Admit it, admit defeat, move on, see what you have with Pennix and go from there. If they beat the Raiders, which I think they probably are going to, I think they're going to keep riding him. I think they're going to see what cousin like if they'll keep going. That's my, my opinion. [00:43:47] Speaker C: I like it. We had two other questions that are kind of like, I would say not. [00:43:52] Speaker D: Big. [00:43:55] Speaker C: Big, big to like the NFL today, but they're big in like football. So one of them, Jamie writes in about college football and then we're going to end with his final question. But college football had a big flag planning incident. There were like 11 games that ended in flag planning. And this is what were there that many in one week. It was like, guys, this must. You had to have been watching social media. This was not this past week, the week before. [00:44:21] Speaker D: This is where all the pepper spray came out. [00:44:24] Speaker C: Ohio State lost to Michigan and Michigan planted their flag in the middle of Ohio State. There was a fight, police had to break up. There was pepper spray. And after that game, there were 10 other games on that Saturday that had flag planning happened in. I mean it was a big rivalry. [00:44:40] Speaker A: This can't be coincidence. Why, why was this. [00:44:42] Speaker C: But it was rivalry weekend, which is very hard to say by the way. You can say it later. You on the pod, pause it, Say rival. See, I'm saying it right now. Rivalry weekend. You did it slow. Okay, that's not very. That is a deep cut That I didn't think we were going to get tonight. Kyle, you're amazing. What's your take on the flag planning? [00:45:08] Speaker A: I didn't know. Such a coordinated. Or like a coordinated effort conspiracy. Yeah. I don't know. Everybody was doing it. I know. I obviously watched the Michigan game. That was incredible. It was. I'll never forget that game. One of the biggest upsets in the history of that rivalry. [00:45:21] Speaker D: Of the year, too. I think that maybe not. [00:45:24] Speaker A: The year was so amazing. I was so filled with joy. Childlike joy. [00:45:29] Speaker D: That was for every Michigan fan, by the way. That was like, that's it. That's the season. That's all we really wanted to do, have a winning record. [00:45:36] Speaker C: Do you hope they win the national championship? So you can say that you won it? [00:45:40] Speaker D: Ohio State. [00:45:41] Speaker C: You know the distributive property of quality. [00:45:44] Speaker D: That's right. No, I would never. [00:45:45] Speaker C: Not. I would never. My mom would be so mad as a math teacher that I just messed up. [00:45:51] Speaker D: I would. [00:45:51] Speaker C: Property of math. [00:45:52] Speaker D: I would never. [00:45:53] Speaker A: You got it. [00:45:53] Speaker D: Ohio State. [00:45:54] Speaker A: No, no, seriously. [00:45:58] Speaker C: Dave Portnoy, owner of Barstool Sports, biggest Michigan fan that I know was part of Bryce Underwood, five star quarterback going to Michigan. Part of the whole facade of getting him there. He is now rooting Ohio State. [00:46:11] Speaker D: Well, he's a traitor. [00:46:12] Speaker C: So that he can say they won. This is all a sham. You lost the game. You see, you win a national championship, but you can't win the game. I think that's actually funny. I could never root for my rival. As we've talked about previously, Kyle, it's. [00:46:23] Speaker A: Good for a chocolate. [00:46:24] Speaker C: It's good to hear you say that. You wouldn't root for the rival, but you're wearing. Never mind. I'll get. I'll go along. So you're okay with the flag planning? Like if the Lions did that at the. At. At Lambeau and they like put their flag right in the middle of the stands where the people were at, you're good with it? I don't know. [00:46:41] Speaker A: I'm not a huge fan of it. I mean, these guys are like teenagers basically. Like, I don't know. [00:46:47] Speaker C: Some of these guys are like seventh year seniors. Cade McNamara played on Michigan. He's in the same recruiting class as Josh Allen and he is applying for his eighth year of college football right now. [00:46:57] Speaker A: Okay. [00:46:58] Speaker D: I think in the college level, I don't think there's any harm as long as people are being kosher a little bit. At least in the professional. We have seen these types of things get way out of hand. And we saw it with the Green Bay packers game. You had a Lions fan who was supposed to be. Oh my gosh, he was supposed to be carrying the American flag, by the way. [00:47:20] Speaker C: Very patriotic, his actions. [00:47:22] Speaker A: What did he do? [00:47:22] Speaker D: He starts like heckling Matt LaFleur and. [00:47:27] Speaker C: Matt LaFleur went off on them. [00:47:30] Speaker D: Starts getting what? Oh, you didn't know this pre game. Oh, yeah, this was pregame Flur starts getting. They like almost got into a fight before anything happened. [00:47:39] Speaker A: So he's part of just like an opening ceremony. [00:47:41] Speaker D: He was trash talking. [00:47:43] Speaker C: Yeah, it was amazing. [00:47:45] Speaker D: What? [00:47:45] Speaker C: You gotta look at it. You gotta look it up later. [00:47:47] Speaker A: Okay. I thought it was maybe a little decorum, please. [00:47:50] Speaker D: Yeah, I thought maybe that was not the. It's one thing when you're in the stands and you're kind of like, boo, you know, you suck. But when you're on the field, that's. [00:47:59] Speaker C: A good impression of a fan trying. [00:48:03] Speaker D: PG here right now. Okay. Because this is not what this inter. This exchange was. [00:48:09] Speaker C: Okay. Very not. You'll enjoy watching it later. As a hater, I enjoy the flag. [00:48:14] Speaker D: Planning when you are asked. [00:48:16] Speaker A: Okay. I respect that. [00:48:17] Speaker D: When you are asked though, to be on the field, as a fan, to do something like that, I think there is kind of a level of like, this is not the time and place. [00:48:26] Speaker C: Yeah. As a fan, not allowed. As a player, I'm cool with it because. But you need to do an off field. That's not turf. Don't be an idiot. Like Baker Mayfield did. Try and play it on the field. That's turf. Notre Dame grass. Plan it. Michigan State planted it. That's also why I'm cool with to doing the celebration on the Cowboys star. Good with it. That's planning a flag. If you didn't like that, you don't like the flag planning. They are hand in hand. [00:48:51] Speaker A: They are the same thing. [00:48:53] Speaker D: People love rivalries. That again, I just coming back to it because in the NFL there's really nothing as many good rivalries. [00:49:02] Speaker C: Raven Steelers. [00:49:03] Speaker D: That's a great one. [00:49:04] Speaker C: Imagine them like taking a terrible towel and like burning it in the center of the field. That would be like what this is. [00:49:10] Speaker D: Yeah, there was a lot of like smack going on with Packers Lions pregame. [00:49:17] Speaker C: Jmo. Did you see JMO talking to Reed at the end of the game? Reed said, can't wait to go to Lions game or in the beginning of the year. He said, I can't wait to play in Detroit. And then he had zero catches for zero yards. And like Jameson Williams commented on his thing and said Crazy that you're saying that with. With zeros across the board. Like, it's. It's awesome. I love the trash talk. Now, our last question. You're a big. You guys are big music people, so I'm going to genuflect to you on this. Jamie Redson, who's your dream super bowl halftime show? [00:49:47] Speaker A: Summer shanties. [00:49:50] Speaker D: No, I don't want to do that. [00:49:52] Speaker A: Why not? Let's do it. [00:49:54] Speaker D: That sounds way too stressful. [00:49:56] Speaker A: I would have a blast. We could do all of our hits. [00:49:59] Speaker C: I'll do that song I did. [00:50:00] Speaker D: Oh, there's no place like, I don't. [00:50:06] Speaker A: Know the words they'd come back to. [00:50:08] Speaker C: I could do. I could do the Rattling Bog. [00:50:11] Speaker A: Yeah, we could do the Rattling Bog. We could do all the hits, man. [00:50:15] Speaker C: Okay. [00:50:16] Speaker A: Our band was. We got to get the band back together for super bowl show. [00:50:19] Speaker C: While Kyle comes up with his real answer. Ian, can you give us your real answer? [00:50:23] Speaker D: So there's two. One who has technically already done a Super bowl, but I would have loved to have seen him now would be a Michael Jackson Super Bowl. I feel like when they. Because he was the first legitimate super bowl halftime. I believe he actually was the first, like, non band weird thing that they did. He was like the first pop star to do it. And I feel like if he was to do it now, it would have just been like way more. Way more spectacle. I think it would have been really cool. And I like. I've seen videos of his super bowl halftime show, and it was great. [00:50:59] Speaker C: Very good. [00:51:00] Speaker D: Epic. [00:51:00] Speaker C: For somebody that watches you do a lot of Michael Jackson Jackson dance moves at weddings, I'm in on it. I like your answer. [00:51:06] Speaker D: Yeah. But for like, a legitimate answer of, like, who would I like to see do it now? [00:51:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:11] Speaker D: 100% Daft Punk. [00:51:13] Speaker A: Oh, wow. Okay. [00:51:14] Speaker D: To watch them, like, really just, like, get out there and like. [00:51:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:20] Speaker C: Also good. Two for two on Impressions tonight. You are doing a great job. [00:51:25] Speaker A: A good act. Okay. I. I love the idea of something that's just like, okay, Weezer. Actually, I. I steer away from bands like, I love. This is the music that I would listen. [00:51:39] Speaker C: Rather have Animal fan. [00:51:42] Speaker A: No, that's a band. He's. That's like a. Because the groups that are like musicians, like, they don't. People don't like that. They don't want to watch that. They want to see the dancers and they want to see. [00:51:55] Speaker D: They want the spectacle. [00:51:56] Speaker A: They want the spectacle. And so anytime there's a halftime show and it's a band out there with holding their Instruments and singing their songs. People are generally, like, yawning. [00:52:05] Speaker C: Hey, man, like the summer shanties. [00:52:06] Speaker D: We got. What was it? Rolling Stones. Didn't we get the business right in the camera? [00:52:13] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:52:16] Speaker A: But we wanted to see, like, JLO and Usher and whatnot. Shakira and a shirtless 50 cent and all the. All the action. So I'd love to. Things that are out of the box, that are, like, unusual, we haven't seen. It'd be fun to see, like, guaranteed or what. [00:52:36] Speaker D: I don't even know who that is. [00:52:37] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, somebody. There's somebody listening. [00:52:39] Speaker D: Moby. Yeah, let's get Moby in here. [00:52:41] Speaker C: Okay. [00:52:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, you could get stung by obi. [00:52:44] Speaker C: What about Enya? [00:52:45] Speaker A: Enya, right. [00:52:49] Speaker C: Who can say? [00:52:51] Speaker A: How about Flight of the Concords? I. I think I could. [00:52:53] Speaker D: Yeah. What if they had, like a comedian just do Jim Gaffigan gets up there and. [00:53:01] Speaker C: What'S up with halftime shows? [00:53:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I do love that. Yeah. What's that? John Mulaney or something like that? Somebody out there. I don't know. What's. [00:53:12] Speaker C: What's the deal? Yeah, bacon smells pretty good. [00:53:16] Speaker A: Yeah, that would be really funny. I could. [00:53:19] Speaker C: I hope so. It's a comedian. [00:53:20] Speaker A: I'd like. I'd like just more rappers, honestly. I want more rappers. [00:53:23] Speaker D: Are you excited about Kendrick Lamar? [00:53:25] Speaker A: I'm. I'm thrilled about Ken. [00:53:26] Speaker C: We listen to Kendrick on the way here. Did you notice I played two Kendrick songs? I did notice. [00:53:29] Speaker A: Of course I noticed. Jam, I know they not like a non stop, right? [00:53:34] Speaker C: I'm so proud of you right now. Now we hit a lot. I feel like a lot of our big news. Was there anything in your big news guy that we miss that you're like, we need to talk about? [00:53:42] Speaker D: The only thing that I think is the last one. It is the last one. It's kind of worthy of. [00:53:48] Speaker C: I'm clearing the mics. Ian, go ahead. [00:53:51] Speaker D: Well, you could talk about this. You're. You're more of a college kid. [00:53:54] Speaker C: Oh, thank you. [00:53:55] Speaker D: I love you. But the only thing I will say is it is in the news. Nothing has been confirmed, although it does sound. Even as of like today. It's sounds like it's heating up a little bit. [00:54:05] Speaker C: I get some news about it. [00:54:07] Speaker D: Billy Old Belichick could be going to the University of North Carolina, be a Tar Heel. He's confirmed conversations, five hours even. I think I saw something recently today that he. It's like, could be his job. He kind of went off and says like, he thinks he could add like the pipeline to the NFL could be very valuable. [00:54:29] Speaker C: He's amazing. [00:54:30] Speaker D: I don't know how Billy would do down there. [00:54:32] Speaker C: Okay, I got it for you. Ready? [00:54:34] Speaker D: Yeah, go for it. [00:54:34] Speaker C: I saw a picture that said if you guys think that he can't recruit, and it just says, look at this. It's a picture of him with his 24 year old girlfriend. Okay? That's the first thing. The second thing is no one wants the job in North Carolina. They fired Mac Jones or Mac Brown, who's the great Mac Jones. Mack Brown, who is the greatest coach in Texas football history. They fired him. No one wants the job. They haven't offered Bill. Bill wrote them an 800 page document today. [00:55:12] Speaker D: That's what I saw. [00:55:13] Speaker C: That has demands, proposals, expectations, salary limitations for people. Nil expectation, 800 page document. And they said, we'll get back to you tomorrow. They haven't offered you. But if you do offer it to me, this is what I need it to be. I think that it is literally the most gangster thing in the world. If you watch Julian Edelman, Gronk and Tom Brady give impressions of what Bill Belichick would be like watching a person. I saw a person that was basically like, hey, so are you gonna come or what? Are you gonna come to our school or what? Like, that's him walking into the house to talk to these people. Like, I would love it, like every NFL player, if you didn't send your kid to Bill Belichick's like, team. I think they, you would be in, like, insulted. You'd probably lose your hall of Fame ballot. [00:55:58] Speaker D: All three of those individuals, by the way, all said they can't see it. [00:56:02] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:56:02] Speaker D: They were like, no way. [00:56:04] Speaker C: I'm stunned if it happens. Like, Nick Saban left college because it's too complicated. The person who wants to be more like Bill Belichick than anything, and he's like, you know what? Instead of being the most winningest coach ever in NFL history and winning, you know, eight more games in the NFL, I'm gonna go to college where it's really hard and everyone's leaving. What is going on? What drugs is this are going on with him and his girlfriend? Allegedly. I gotta be missing reckless speculation. [00:56:29] Speaker A: I'm with you. I'm quite confused. [00:56:31] Speaker D: I don't understand my biggest. [00:56:33] Speaker C: But I love it. I love it. There's just everything about it. [00:56:36] Speaker D: I. My only thing that I don't like is that he wants to have his, like, son in written contract form, be the heir, apparently. [00:56:45] Speaker C: Oh, that's great too. Yes. Son. Yeah, he's Basically like you're hiring me, but in four years it's my son's job. What. When have you ever done that? When has just. That's literally the definition of like what ownership is in NFL teams of like when I die, my son gets this. [00:57:01] Speaker D: I know, it was weird. [00:57:02] Speaker C: He's doing it as a coach. [00:57:03] Speaker D: He wants to bring. [00:57:05] Speaker C: And the worst know who's going with them too, right? Matt Patricia, who is currently, currently his producer for his. For him on espn. Did you know that? [00:57:14] Speaker D: Yeah, it. No. He's the. He's on his podcast to coach. [00:57:18] Speaker C: He's executive producer. [00:57:20] Speaker D: Awful. [00:57:21] Speaker C: He's just following him around anything. He. If he opens a five guys, he is going to be on that grill. I love it. So sorry. That was. I'm so happy that you let me go off on that. Thank you, Ian. Now we have our weekly segment. And right now I think this has just been a fun pod for me. I'm just going to be honest with you. I could do this for another hour and a half if you're here. Buckle up, buddy. We're just getting started. Go ahead, Ian. Hit us with our weekly segment. [00:57:45] Speaker D: Now, the last couple times I've done it, we've done some freezing cold takes. I'm going to take a hiatus. And the reason I'm. [00:57:50] Speaker C: I love a good hiatus, by the way. Good name, good word. [00:57:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:53] Speaker D: Reason I'm taking a hiatus is because we are four games out of the regular season. [00:57:58] Speaker A: Right. [00:57:58] Speaker D: So we're almost done. So there's certain things that are going to happen in the next four weeks that we're going to get a lot of clarity on. That maybe we don't have clarity right now. [00:58:10] Speaker C: This is like a couple weeks ago you said we're gonna learn a lot. [00:58:12] Speaker D: We're gonna learn. [00:58:13] Speaker C: Now we're getting clarity. Now we're learn then clarity. [00:58:15] Speaker D: Now we are analyzing all the learning. [00:58:18] Speaker A: Okay. [00:58:18] Speaker D: So we're really kind of debriefing these things. [00:58:20] Speaker A: All right. [00:58:20] Speaker D: And I wanted to go through just a couple categories. Some of these we can talk maybe a little bit more about. Maybe some of these we can kind of speed through. [00:58:27] Speaker A: Great. [00:58:28] Speaker D: But I'm calling this a. Who is it? Who is it? [00:58:32] Speaker A: Who is it? [00:58:34] Speaker D: So we're going to talk a little bit playoffs first. [00:58:37] Speaker A: Playoffs are coming up. [00:58:38] Speaker D: Four, four games left in the regular season. And my question to you, and I'll kind of outline some of the teams in question first or after I give you the question. But my first question to both of you and I'm going to split you up I'm going to give one of you NFC side and one of you is going to take AFC side. Who is in the playoffs currently. So if the season ended right now, they would be in. So who is in the playoffs currently that you think is going to miss it? And you have to pick a team. I'm going to make you pick a team. So who do you think is going to miss the playoffs that's currently in it and who is not in the playoffs that you think is going to be in? So your two teams. Who's out and who's in? Kyle's going to go afc or did you want afc? [00:59:25] Speaker C: I want to. [00:59:26] Speaker D: Okay. Marshall can take AFC side and Kyle can take nfc. Now here's kind of your current picture. There are only four teams that have clinched a playoff berth. Chiefs, Bills, Lions and Eagles. So we're not even going to talk about them because they're already in. Your other teams that would be in on. We'll start with Kyle. The AFC side, Steelers, Texans, Ravens, Chargers and Broncos all would be in. As of now, there are only three teams that are on the bubble, which is the Colts, Dolphins and Bengals technically are still in it. Statistically. [01:00:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:06] Speaker D: So on the AFC side, is there a team over there? If you had to pick one, who would you pick is going to be out and who's going to be replacing them? [01:00:17] Speaker A: Honestly, the way it lands right now, I don't think it's likely that the playoff picture will change, although it's definitely possible. [01:00:24] Speaker D: On the AFC side, I think I would agree. [01:00:25] Speaker A: On the AFC time side, the teams on the bubble are a couple of games behind. [01:00:30] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:00:31] Speaker A: You know, they're not that close. So they would for the Colts or Dolphins especially, they would have to have one of the wild card teams lose multiple games in the remaining four and. And the Colts and Dolphins would have to win all or most of the games they have remaining in order to get it. Like, it's. It's just the odds are very much not in their favor. And I'm not really a strong believer in what the Colts have put together, or the Dolphins for that matter. But since you're putting me to it, I'm saying that the Dolphins. The Dolphins have a shot at it. I think. I think that there's a realistic chance the Dolphins are surging at the right time. It's true. They have the right lineup of opponents in front of them. They could unseat the Tech. The Texans, in this case, they were. [01:01:17] Speaker D: The team that I thought if there was a team on the bubble over there. It's them. [01:01:21] Speaker A: That's what I'm gonna go with. [01:01:22] Speaker D: Who would be out? [01:01:24] Speaker A: In that case, you're. [01:01:25] Speaker D: It's between. [01:01:26] Speaker C: You said Texans, right? [01:01:28] Speaker D: Well, no, because the Texans. If the. If he's choosing the Dolphins, Texans would have to win their division. [01:01:33] Speaker C: Oh, okay. [01:01:34] Speaker D: So he'd have to either go Ravens, Chargers, Broncos. As of now? [01:01:37] Speaker A: Well, no, no, no. I think that the Dolphins could win the division. [01:01:41] Speaker D: No, the Dolphins can't win their division. Bills have already won. Their. [01:01:44] Speaker C: Clinched it. [01:01:45] Speaker A: Oh, right. Okay. [01:01:47] Speaker D: So if you go in the Dolphins. They have to go. [01:01:49] Speaker A: The Texans would be the team that would bounce. Yeah, Texas. [01:01:53] Speaker C: The Texans are winning their division. [01:01:54] Speaker D: You can't have the Texans out and the Dolphins replace them. Someone needs to win that division over there. [01:02:01] Speaker A: Well, that's what I. The Dolphins. [01:02:04] Speaker D: The Texans. The Dolphins are not in the same division. [01:02:06] Speaker C: They're in the same conference. Not the same division. [01:02:09] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I don't freaking know. I don't know, man. You're putting me on this. [01:02:16] Speaker D: Chargers or Broncos? Yeah, they're the only two realistic teams you're probably going to kick. [01:02:19] Speaker C: Okay. [01:02:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm probably putting them Chargers in the. In the playoffs. [01:02:22] Speaker C: So Broncos. [01:02:23] Speaker D: Okay. [01:02:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I like it. [01:02:24] Speaker D: Makes sense. [01:02:24] Speaker C: All right. [01:02:25] Speaker D: NFC side. [01:02:26] Speaker C: Paint me the picture of nfc. Who's in? Who's in right now? [01:02:29] Speaker D: Lions and Eagles are already in. No one has clinched a division over here. By the way, the Chiefs and the Bills have clinched divisions. No one on the NFC side has clinched. NFC is a little bit tighter. So currently in, if it stopped right now, would be the Seahawks, the Bucks, Vikings, Packers. Commanders on the bubble. You have a lot of teams. I'm only going to give you the ones that are reasonable, though. Unless if you want to go off book, by all means go off book. [01:02:58] Speaker A: It's so different, these conferences. [01:02:59] Speaker D: The Rams, Falcons, Cardinals, and Niners are realistically the only ones who could maybe squeak in at this point. [01:03:09] Speaker C: If I'm going to go off the board, which I want to, because the easy pick is Go Rams because they're hot right now. Just beat the Bills. I'm going Arizona. I like that team. When they're. You talked about Seattle. When Arizona's on, they're on. Like, they had a couple drives against Seattle that I was like, how are they not doing this the entire game? How are they. How does Trey McBride not have a touchdown this season? He has the most receptions in the NFL without having a touchdown this entire year. [01:03:37] Speaker A: Wow. [01:03:38] Speaker D: Like. [01:03:38] Speaker C: And it's by, like 30. The second place is like 30 below him. It's Bonko. The team that I think is going out. Do you know what. Do you have a guess as to who you think I'm going to pick? [01:03:51] Speaker D: I know who the easy answer is. [01:03:53] Speaker C: Can you. And I guess who you think I'm going to pick on the same kind. Ready? One, two, three. [01:04:00] Speaker D: Packers. [01:04:02] Speaker C: I think they're going to miss. [01:04:03] Speaker A: Okay. [01:04:04] Speaker C: I think they're. [01:04:05] Speaker D: They got a tough schedule still in front of them. [01:04:07] Speaker C: That's why I said they do. They have a tough, tough sledding and when they play in Lambeau that I know that they're playing in weather that they play in and all that jazz. But it's unpredictable, you know, putting somebody in that weather for those games. So that's who I would say playoffs. I like that as a. Who will it be? [01:04:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:25] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:04:25] Speaker C: Hit us with our next one on here. [01:04:27] Speaker D: So the next one. We have talked about this a couple times, so we don't really need to spend time on it. But I do think the MVP race is becoming a little bit more clear. There are only three reasonable options at this point. [01:04:40] Speaker A: Agreed. [01:04:41] Speaker D: It's either going to be Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson or Saquon Barkley. [01:04:45] Speaker C: Josh Allen last week had the most fantasy football points of any quarterback since Michael Vick's Monday Night Football game, where the first pass he threw 85 yards. I feel like it was 95 yards in the air to Desean Jackson for a touchdown. If you remember that game, it's historical. So Josh Allen had more points than that. [01:05:03] Speaker A: It was an incredible superhero cape game. [01:05:06] Speaker C: Saquon Barkley has the rushing record for the Eagles and has a month of. [01:05:10] Speaker A: Football left four games. [01:05:11] Speaker C: Lamar Jackson has had more perfect passing rating games than anyone in the NFL this year. [01:05:15] Speaker D: Three of them have a very strong case. [01:05:17] Speaker A: I completely agree. And any choice that I make, I really don't want to make it like interpreted as a disparaging comment on the other's performance. I think each one of these genuinely has a compelling case. [01:05:29] Speaker C: Who are you rooting for though? [01:05:32] Speaker A: Rooting for? [01:05:33] Speaker C: Because that's different than who do you want. [01:05:35] Speaker D: I like that question. [01:05:36] Speaker A: Yeah, that is an interesting question because I think I've made up my mind about who is most deserving of the award. But in terms of who, I'd love to see it. I. Man, I like all of these choices. I think for the. For the sake of the award, it is the most interesting when a running back wins it that that makes things interesting. I consider that unlikely. [01:06:00] Speaker C: I've. [01:06:01] Speaker A: He's the dark horse in the mix, as far as I'm concerned, there is. [01:06:04] Speaker D: Only one reasonable way he wins. And I think if he breaks, he's on pace. If he breaks the rushing record, I do think they give it to him. I think they will. [01:06:13] Speaker A: He might not. He's got four games left. He still needs, like, he needs yards or something. [01:06:20] Speaker D: He needs to average over a hundred yards per game, which. [01:06:24] Speaker A: A good deal more than that. Yeah. [01:06:25] Speaker D: Now, some of the games he's coming up against, he's got the Steelers this week. [01:06:29] Speaker C: Tough defense commanders, Cowboys and Giants to end a season, though. [01:06:34] Speaker D: So Cowboys and Giants, they. He could run. [01:06:36] Speaker C: Commanders suspect. I mean, they've been suspect at times, so. And to say that the Steelers. The Steelers let Cincy put up a ton of points on him. [01:06:45] Speaker A: True. [01:06:46] Speaker C: So, like, very true. [01:06:47] Speaker D: They were. [01:06:47] Speaker C: While I am scared of. [01:06:48] Speaker D: They were passing. [01:06:49] Speaker C: Yeah. But Cincy passes a lot against everybody because they don't run like they have a decent running back right now. He's had three receiving touchdowns in the last four weeks. [01:06:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:57] Speaker C: Like, so. I really like the question, who am I rooting for? It's easy. I'm anti Josh Allen, as we've talked about, off air and on air, in every air that you can imagine. And I'm pro Lamar. Okay. I love Lamar. But I. I am echoing your sentiment that my favorite of them would be for Saquon because I like a new position out there. I want a running back to win the Heisman. That hasn't happened in a long time. Like with. That's awesome. [01:07:26] Speaker D: I think we can all agree because I'm on board with the Saquon pick. But I think Allen is deserving, though, as well. Lamar's got one. And some of the things that Allen does, especially this year. Absolutely. Three rushing touchdowns and three passing touchdowns. [01:07:45] Speaker C: Can I give you a Josh Allen staff that I heard today? [01:07:48] Speaker D: He's crazy. [01:07:49] Speaker C: Do you know that he has two more rushing touchdowns in his career than Christian McCaffrey does? [01:07:55] Speaker A: Wow. [01:07:55] Speaker C: He has more rushing touchdowns than Tony Dorset, more rushing touchdowns than Warwick Dunn, than. He's a beast than hall of Fame quarterbacks or running backs. And he also has all of the passing touchdowns that he has. [01:08:12] Speaker D: I just. I think he is. He has always been worthy of it, but there's always been someone that's kind of had a better season than him. And I feel like this is the first time he's not throwing as many interceptions and he's doing all the superhero stuff that we always talk that he's doing. And yet he's not making the mistakes that generally he sometimes has this. [01:08:36] Speaker A: I would mostly agree. But I, and I do think that I would love to see him take home an MVP award in his career. And I think that this year is one of the best examples of him kind of. Of wearing that cape and carrying his team. And in the conversation of who was doing the most for their team to put them in winning position, there's. It's hard to argue anybody's ahead of him. Where would the Bills be without him? It's just incredible. But at the same time, this isn't even his best season. [01:09:08] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:09:08] Speaker A: And he's not even going to finish with his best season. [01:09:12] Speaker C: And it's not Lamar's. And Lamar's one with worse. Like. [01:09:15] Speaker A: No, this is Lamar's best season. [01:09:17] Speaker C: His. The first MVP he had was significantly better than this. [01:09:22] Speaker A: Only in terms of rushing. [01:09:24] Speaker C: Yeah, that's a big part of it. [01:09:25] Speaker A: In terms of overall total production, this is Lamar's best work fair. Overall. This is Josh Allen's. [01:09:31] Speaker C: We might be blazing hairs on that. [01:09:32] Speaker A: It might be his third best season. Yeah, he's not. This is not the best that we've seen from him in terms of like basically any metric. [01:09:38] Speaker C: That's why MVP is rhetoric based. There is a lot of it. That is. [01:09:42] Speaker A: It would feel more like a career appreciation award to me for Josh Allen. It would feel more like, wow, Lamar leveled up again. Even when we didn't think he could get better, he did get better. [01:09:53] Speaker C: And that when we lost the value of the position, the entire position of running backs, Saquon put it on the map. [01:10:00] Speaker A: True. [01:10:01] Speaker C: Where we were last year, we were talking about a zoom meeting of all the running backs potentially unionizing. And now we're talking about Christian. [01:10:09] Speaker A: McCaffrey was heavily in the MVP conversation last season. Saquon has greatly exceeded McCaffrey's accomplishments this year. His season is far better than McCaffrey was. Was last year. And. And I do think it's time for us all in the league to be reminded that a transcendent running back can change a team. [01:10:25] Speaker D: If he doesn't. If he breaks the rushing record and doesn't get the mvp, they. They just need to rename their. Honestly, that's what I said. [01:10:35] Speaker A: Cooper cup was breaking wide receiver records. Didn't get the mvp. [01:10:38] Speaker D: I think we can all agree Saquon's our favorite. They're all worthy. I'd probably be fine with any of them. [01:10:45] Speaker C: Who else. What else do we got on who will it be? So, I mean, who will it be? Sorry, who is it? [01:10:51] Speaker D: So the Next one. This one sometimes gets a lot of traction especially at this point in time of the season. Coach of the year there's already some names that are floating around. These are the ones that are the general favorites right now. So Dan Campbell, Kevin O'Connell, Mike Tomlin, Dan Quinn and then I put two others on here that I think should be in the conversation. Jim Harbaugh and Mike McDonald. [01:11:17] Speaker C: Too early for Jim Harbaugh, too early for Mike McDonald. Great jobs this year. Too early. If Dan Campbell doesn't win it, it's a sham. If he's robbed of it last year, if he doesn't win it this year it's an absolute sham of the award and I will never talk about coach of the year again. [01:11:32] Speaker D: A serious so he has been in the conversation three years in a row. Like he was in it in the nine and eight and they gave it to Dayball because he just got to the playoffs. [01:11:42] Speaker A: Right. [01:11:43] Speaker D: Last year they didn't get it because Stefanski had more interesting things going on with Flacco. This year I could see it going to Kevin O'Connell. [01:11:52] Speaker A: I definitely could see it going to Kevin OConnell. [01:11:54] Speaker D: What he's done with Sam Darnold, I mean there how many he's the QB whisperer right now is that's what everyone's calling him now because he's make Sam Darnold, he made Kirk Cousins look good and now he's making Sam Darnold look good which I think is mostly Justin Jefferson making them look good. But if I'm being honest I don't think it's got anything. I mean Kevin O's great. [01:12:14] Speaker A: I do think he's a very good coach. I'll give him that. I think that all these are really good coaches and I really admire what Tomlin has accomplished this year. [01:12:21] Speaker C: Like Tom would get would that would be a care appreciation for him like you were saying about Josh. [01:12:25] Speaker A: I kind of think it would like but it is also like another like feather in his cap. It's not just another winning season or non losing season but like under different circumstances and against the odds and silencing doubters and a whole I mean a lot of doubters all of us going you're crazy Mike. And him being proven right again. [01:12:45] Speaker D: And I I do think there's a case for Dan Quinn what he's done with the commanders in a one season he's turned that team into a relatively competitive team. [01:12:55] Speaker A: I don't think he'll get it admirable. [01:12:57] Speaker D: But sometimes we see this coach of the Year award, where it turns in, it's given to the coach that's done something that was above expectations, of course, which is why it's gone to some of these guys that really maybe don't deserve it. [01:13:10] Speaker A: I think that this is. This award has a unique track record of being a curse. [01:13:17] Speaker C: Oh. Because maybe you don't want it. [01:13:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Too many coaches to name. [01:13:23] Speaker C: Just name two of them. The last two, Stefanski and Dayball, that. [01:13:27] Speaker A: Were like, yeah, and Dayball's not gonna last. He's gonna be fired before too long. But we've also seen Vrabel was fired and the. That other guy can't remember his name. The other guy who wanted to, like, the year before that. But there are a lot of examples of Coach of the Year winners. [01:13:50] Speaker D: So Bill Belichick and Andy Reid have won it in their time frame. Bill Belichick won it 2003, 2007, and 2010. Andy Reid won it in 2002. So, I mean, there's definitely two examples. [01:14:03] Speaker C: That hadn't gotten fired. [01:14:04] Speaker D: Matt Nagy won it. [01:14:05] Speaker C: Oh, that's the other one. [01:14:07] Speaker A: That's the one I was trying to think of. [01:14:08] Speaker C: I'm sorry. That's it. [01:14:09] Speaker D: John Harbaugh won it very recently, though, too. [01:14:12] Speaker C: Mm. But you just named four coaches. The most recent four that you're like, yeah, yeah. [01:14:18] Speaker D: But I think that's sometimes a case. They're giving it to a coach for the wrong reasons, though. [01:14:23] Speaker C: I think the Coach of the Year. This is the joke that NBA Twitter has become of Coach of the Year goes to the team that surprised us the most, that we can't explain why they're better. Let's give it to the coach. That's what it. I mean, I actually agree with that. And. But I'm telling you right here, right now, I will walk out of the podcast and never talk about Coach of the Year again. If Dan Campbell doesn't win it this year, period. [01:14:49] Speaker D: Very deserving. [01:14:50] Speaker C: Give us our next two. [01:14:51] Speaker A: I would be offended if any of anybody else did. [01:14:54] Speaker D: All right, last one, or we got two more. We'll try to go through these quickly. So the next one is more like, what's going to happen to these guys? It's not necessarily like, who is it? But it's more like maybe like a. Like, where? How? [01:15:07] Speaker C: Where? When? Why? [01:15:08] Speaker D: Yeah, so there's some interesting things where you have some quarterbacks that are going to hit free agency here, and Sam Darnold has already hit the news that he's looking to get paid. Do you think, like, do you Think where is he going to go and what do you think he's going to do for the market? Do you think he's going to get paid a lot? Do you think he's not worth it? What do you guys think about Sam Darnold? You think he's going to get paid? [01:15:33] Speaker A: Yeah, he'll get paid. Yeah, of course he'll get paid. [01:15:36] Speaker D: You got a team for him? [01:15:37] Speaker A: There's. There's enough teams in this league. There's always a sucker. There's always a sucker in the NFL. [01:15:42] Speaker D: Raiders, Raiders. [01:15:43] Speaker A: Somebody will take it. I wouldn't be surprised if the Vikings resigned him. [01:15:47] Speaker D: Oh, didn't either. [01:15:49] Speaker C: I think he might go to the Giants. Oh, I think he'll be the quarterback that plays over. Plays over whoever they draft because the Giants will draft somebody or they'll draft Travis Hunter and have him and Malik neighbors out there together, which would be awesome, right? [01:16:05] Speaker D: What if he went back to the chats? [01:16:08] Speaker C: Can we talk about the jets quarterback right now? [01:16:10] Speaker D: Yeah. Aaron Rodgers. He's actually the next one of the other ones I have on my list. Is he going to stay? Technically, he's got one more year on his contract. Is he going to stay? Is he going to go somewhere else or is he going to retire? [01:16:22] Speaker A: The only thing that we know for sure is that he will ensure that. We spent a lot of off season time talking about him. So he's going to drag this out. There's going to be a lot of interviews and a lot of discussions and a lot of podcast episodes devoted to where will he go? [01:16:37] Speaker C: Will we have an off season pot about him if he's in? [01:16:41] Speaker D: That's our choice. Why? I'm asking you if he's in the news. [01:16:44] Speaker C: Let's make the decision now. [01:16:46] Speaker A: You know what? Let's not. [01:16:48] Speaker D: Okay? [01:16:49] Speaker A: Let's not and say we did. There will be enough podcasts out there doing episodes about where he goes, oh. [01:16:55] Speaker C: You are making the decision. I thought you were saying let's not make the decision. [01:16:59] Speaker D: I like it. [01:17:00] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, no, I don't want to do it. I talk about him, but that's the only thing that I know is that he'll get talked about a lot and it'll maximize his media attention. [01:17:08] Speaker D: I mean, he has successfully helped the jets retain the longest streak in any major league sport, or at least current active longest streak. [01:17:17] Speaker C: You hear him in the interview talk about the playoff drought. He's. I've been here for one year playing. [01:17:22] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:17:23] Speaker C: That's all I have. [01:17:23] Speaker D: A lot of these players. A lot of these players Talk like. [01:17:27] Speaker A: Best game is a jet on Sunday. [01:17:29] Speaker C: 300 yards, first times in I think since 2022, 2021, something like that. It's crazy. [01:17:35] Speaker D: Still lost. Some actually blame him a little bit for the loss because I didn't watch the game, but I guess he threw. It's either Wilson or devonte. [01:17:47] Speaker A: Devonte had the last one. Didn't get out of bounds. [01:17:49] Speaker D: Well, I thought someone said they. He threw a pass and they got out of bounds and they, they killed the clock. So the clock stopped moving which gave the Dolphins just enough time to then march back down the other direction and get the field goal. Take it over. [01:18:04] Speaker C: You know where I think he's going? [01:18:07] Speaker A: Vikings. [01:18:08] Speaker C: He's going to the Steelers and he's going to ruin Mike Tomlin. Ah, Mike Tomlin's been able to decipher all the bombs that have happened in his locker room over the years. [01:18:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:18:20] Speaker C: The only thing he hasn't had is the quarterback that is finally through his first 300 yard game, still lost out of the playoffs. And you may now watch his Netflix documentary about him doing drugs in skipping practice to do those. [01:18:40] Speaker A: Put some respect on Mike Tomlin. [01:18:42] Speaker D: Let's talk about that. [01:18:42] Speaker A: Rogers would go there and Tomlin would make it. [01:18:45] Speaker C: You think he can decipher that? He has deciphered the bomb of right now. George Pickens, who if you watch any play that's a running play besides Najee Harris running people over. You just look in the top left corner, you're going to see an absolute brawl that's on World star hip hop of just George Pickens fighting whoever the corner. Just they're fighting. It's the scene of Michael O from Blindside taking the person and throwing them over the stands during the live play. Yeah, that's George Pickens on every running play. I pray that the NFL camera has him at the top so I can watch him. If he doesn't slot. It's movie magic. [01:19:22] Speaker D: Let's talk about the Steelers because they also have a quarterback situation at the end of the year because both of their quarterbacks are I think on one year deals. Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. Do you think they're going to keep one of them? [01:19:35] Speaker A: What a situation this team is in. [01:19:37] Speaker D: They went from not having a quarterback to now all of a sudden having options. [01:19:43] Speaker A: I don't even know what to make of this. You draft a quarterback, that's what you do. I don't know. [01:19:49] Speaker D: I mean they're gonna have to eventually. [01:19:50] Speaker C: Yeah, it's Aaron Rodgers. That's who's going there. [01:19:53] Speaker D: I think they're gonna keep Russell. I think he's done too good. I think he's proven that's always the. [01:19:59] Speaker A: Easy bet because the teams always seem to go with the safe bet. Go with the guy you've got all the time. Overwhelmingly. [01:20:07] Speaker D: Do you think Justin Fields finds a home anywhere else? I don't think he'll stay at the Steelers if they choose Russell Wilson. I think he'll want to go somewhere else and get a start. [01:20:16] Speaker A: I think you will. He's probably the 30th best quarterback in the NFL. [01:20:20] Speaker C: I could see him on the Lions as a backup. That's my point. [01:20:24] Speaker D: Yeah, there's. I think it was Saban who was talking on the McAfee show last week about, like, him going down to. Where did he coach? Carolina. [01:20:37] Speaker C: Saban? [01:20:37] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:20:38] Speaker C: Alabama? [01:20:39] Speaker D: No, no, no, no, no. [01:20:40] Speaker A: When he coached msu, when he went pro. [01:20:42] Speaker D: Oh, Miami. Miami. That was it. And he talked about how they had a good record his first season, but then they kind of started falling off. And he. He talked a lot about, you know, when you're going to a team, there are certain factors you really should pay attention to. The cap, who's on the team, the gm, the ownership, all these different factors. And he said he just didn't pay enough attention to it when he went down to Miami and it blew up in his face and it was a complete disaster. And do you think any of these guys should be paying attention to the team they want to go on to, or are they just going to follow the bag? [01:21:13] Speaker C: Absolutely. They should pay attention to the team that they're going on to. Take a look at Sam Donald. He's an exact example of what happened to dysfunctionality. Throughout his time, he had a little bit a taste of what it like being on a franchise that mattered and was ran well by the 49ers. And he's like, oh my gosh, I should go somewhere where I'm actually valued and they take care of people. [01:21:35] Speaker D: Brady talked about it too. Brady said he did a lot of research into what teams he was even Gino Smith talked to. [01:21:41] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly like. [01:21:44] Speaker C: And talking about Tom Brady. As much as I dislike him, hearing him talk about what Bruce Arians was like the first time he met him, he said it was Bruce's team. But Bruce didn't come up to me and tell me I couldn't do certain things. I watched what I did. But at certain points I'd be like, this is my team as much as it is yours. It's our team. I need to start Acting like it. So if you're going in, look at Geno Smith. Those are two perfect examples of what happens when you take dysfunctionality and say I'm taking the bag. Okay. Juan Soto, MLB fans, it's now the richest contract in the history of all sports right now. Over $745 million, 15 years in the MLB bonko. That's more than Tom Brady and LeBron made in their entire career. [01:22:27] Speaker A: Holy moly. [01:22:28] Speaker D: He's just going across the street though. [01:22:29] Speaker C: He's literally going to from the Yankees to the Mets. So those are. I think you got to follow the team in the NFL if you're trying to chase the bag, you better be doing it at the end of your career what Kirk Cousins is doing right now. [01:22:44] Speaker A: Nothing could be better for you than to go and play for a scheme. Lord, so get yourself. [01:22:48] Speaker C: But they're all schema as you've said. [01:22:50] Speaker A: No, not all these coaches are scheme low. [01:22:52] Speaker C: I'm gonna go play. [01:22:53] Speaker A: I meant Daniel or Sean McVeigh or Kyle Shanahan. [01:22:58] Speaker C: You're right. Or I'm referring to ownership. They're all awful owners. Like you're not picking a great owner to go to. [01:23:03] Speaker A: Oh yeah, I see what you mean. I mean, I mean like an offensive schemer. [01:23:06] Speaker C: Sure. [01:23:07] Speaker A: Go play for one of those four or five guys. Ben Johnson, etc, one of them who will just resurrect your career. [01:23:13] Speaker D: Let's. Let's kind of move into the last one. We have already three head coaches fired. Saints, Bears and Jets. Who are the remaining coaches that are going to be fired? I put a list together. You can tell me if you agree with this if. Or you would add anyone and then just pick one team that you think is the most attractive spot out of this list. So Saints, Bears, jets are all out of a coach right now. I think the Jags, Raiders, Cowboys and Giants are all going to be potential ones that are going to also lose. [01:23:48] Speaker A: I feel pretty confident that Doug Peterson is done. [01:23:52] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:23:52] Speaker A: The others I'm actually unsure of. I don't know if they're going to let D ball McCarthy or Pierce go yet. Wouldn't surprise me. Wouldn't surprise me. But I also wouldn't be surprised if they stay. [01:24:02] Speaker D: Those are just the ones that are the ones currently in dynamic. [01:24:04] Speaker A: Imagine they were all. Yeah, imagine all of them were gone and we've got seven openings and you're. You're. [01:24:09] Speaker C: You're a bench fire em all. [01:24:10] Speaker A: You're an Aaron Glenn. You're a. You're a Mike Variable. You're a Bill Belichick you're one of those candidates and you're looking at which one do I want to go to. I first of all love the question and I love these kind of considerations. Let me think about that. [01:24:27] Speaker C: To me it's a no brainer. You got to go where the organization is. You're going to. None of these organizations are you looking at and saying they have great structure. [01:24:37] Speaker D: Right. [01:24:37] Speaker C: None of them. Literally. The Saints had bounty gate. The Bears are owned by an absolute moron. The jets are the Jets. [01:24:46] Speaker A: Talking about who? [01:24:49] Speaker C: Who did you say the Bears are owned by? An absolute moron who has their son who doesn't watch football, is in charge of football. Making football decisions right now. [01:24:56] Speaker A: I thought you were talking about that 150 year old lady. [01:24:59] Speaker C: She entitled. She empowered her son who. Who has openly said I don't watch football. [01:25:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:25:05] Speaker C: To be in charge of the football. He's in charge of figuring out who their next coach is. Not the GM Ryan poll. It's crazy. The jets are the jets, the Giants are the. Do I need to say more? They wanted to document how awful they were. As much as you talked about that last week, the Cowboys have an owner who wants to talk about the length of his players genitalia instead of hiring an actual gm, he wants to be that himself. The Raiders. Are you kidding me? The Raiders? The guy whose owner looks like he cuts his hair with a bowl on it every night in the Jags. Really? They're known more for having a son of an owner that owns AEW than being a functional organization. They changed their like stadium to be named after Trevor Lawrence. It's ridiculous. There's no. But you don't want to go to any of these teams. The answer is that you want to go to North Carolina. [01:25:57] Speaker A: I would go Cowboys. Jerry doesn't fire his coaches. He gives them. [01:26:02] Speaker C: Oh, that's. That's your take. I like. [01:26:05] Speaker D: There's a lot of people who just from a Ross roster perspective like the Bears the most just because they have a quarterback that's starting to look a lot better. [01:26:15] Speaker C: Do you think it looks bad on Ben Johnson to turn down another round of coachings? [01:26:19] Speaker D: No, I think he knows. [01:26:21] Speaker C: What do you think Kyle? Does it look bad that he is now potent? I mean if he passed in all these jobs because Ben Johnson recently, you know, the leaks of Ben Johnson are really fun. I enjoy that. They get to Schefter and they go on ESPN where he's like, you know, Ben Johnson isn't just going to take any job. He needs to make sure that there's leadership is lined up with this player roster management and that there's a scheme involved with the system involved in us. Okay, I understand. I don't think you need the Bears to prove it to you before you're going to take the job. [01:26:53] Speaker D: I don't think think Ben Johnson is actually interested in the head coaching job. I think this is why he kind of puts all these stipulations out there. Maybe he was interested last year and maybe he's like, I don't know, maybe I can toy with the idea. But he. I feel like I think he knows the great gig he's got right now. [01:27:13] Speaker C: Can we just appreciate having being good coordinators. Matt Nagy is going to die in the coordinator job in the Chiefs. [01:27:19] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:27:21] Speaker C: Eric B. Enemy was known as. Where are we putting him as the next great NFL coach? He just got fired as the offensive coordinator for ucla, right? What? [01:27:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:27:31] Speaker C: Are you kidding me? Like be a good coordinator. A job of a head coach is very different than a coordinator. [01:27:39] Speaker A: Right. [01:27:40] Speaker C: We're having these coordinators that are great go do a job that is not what they were doing before. It's true. You're in charge. It's like, okay, you've been in charge of HR your entire life. I want you to be CEO now. [01:27:52] Speaker D: How many times have we seen these coordinators become a head coach and absolutely flop? [01:27:57] Speaker C: A lot of times Cliff Kingsbury is going to get a head coaching job again for the one year he did with Jaden Daniels. [01:28:03] Speaker A: He probably will and it's crazy. [01:28:06] Speaker C: Did we forget about how bad he was? [01:28:08] Speaker A: Some of probably see again. We'll probably will see some then again. But you know, Dan Quinn came. What is going on? He went coach coordinator back to coach. You know, a lot of these. That's. It's, it's going to be, it's going to be fine. Ben Johnson. No, it doesn't reflect poorly upon him if he. The guy is eight months older than me. He's not old. He's got many, many more years of coaching and so I think that there is a lot to be said for continuing when you are in a good situation. I'd love to see it. I think he's making magic happen. Don't blame the guy if he takes a head coaching position. He is actually pretty experienced for only being 38 years old. [01:28:49] Speaker D: Aaron Glenn is going to find himself on a lot of these short lists. A lot of people are actually putting Glenn at Saints right now as a very possible option. [01:28:57] Speaker A: I could see that It's a good. [01:28:58] Speaker C: Segment by you this week. Ian, I appreciate you. Our fantasy update. Are you guys in playoffs now? [01:29:03] Speaker D: Kyle is. I'm not. [01:29:05] Speaker C: I'm just going to keep asking. [01:29:06] Speaker A: I love the situation that I found myself in to bore everybody with a. The play. I was very close to missing. Very close to missing. And I thought, this is my week. All I have to do is win this game to get into the playoffs and I'm set. But then who shows up but Mr. DeWitt? [01:29:27] Speaker D: Not me. [01:29:28] Speaker A: My ultimate nemesis. The worst opponent that you want to f. That you would never want to face when it's win or lose, when it's do or die. And I was projected to crush him. [01:29:44] Speaker C: I love a good projection upset at every point. [01:29:48] Speaker A: And we go into end of Sunday. And then he just took the lead considerably. I needed like a monster game from CD Lamb in order to barely which. [01:30:01] Speaker C: He was open in every play in the game. In the Simpsons characters, at least when I watched it. [01:30:07] Speaker A: I got my. I got him. CD Lamb put up for me. And I squeaked out a very, very Narrow victory over Mr. DeWitt who is at the bottom 14 of 14 teams in our league. [01:30:19] Speaker D: Yeah, he had a rough nick into the playoffs. Mine. I want to tell you how in dire straits I was. My quarterback situation was very bleak. Brock Purdy was getting injured. He wasn't playing very good. For some reason I thought Kirk Cousins was my man. [01:30:34] Speaker C: Name the team after him. [01:30:36] Speaker D: You want to know who I had to start this week? You want to know who I did. [01:30:38] Speaker C: Start this week in the consolation bracket? [01:30:40] Speaker A: Come on. [01:30:41] Speaker D: No, not yet. Playoffs start next week. Jameson Winston. [01:30:45] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [01:30:47] Speaker D: I started him. I got 17 points out of him. Puking a cooler got me 41 points. [01:30:53] Speaker A: Holy butts. [01:30:54] Speaker D: Yeah, that was what I wanted from Puka all year. And he has had multiple games like that. Just. He was on the IR for like six weeks though. Yeah, it killed me. Yeah, I wasted like a high pick on him. And my running back situation. Oh my gosh. Both of my starting running backs were out. Yeah, they have been out for three weeks in a row and I had to pick up. [01:31:17] Speaker C: You've had bad luck. [01:31:19] Speaker D: Because we have so many people in our league. I have to pick up second and third round stringers. [01:31:25] Speaker C: Do you have McCaffrey? [01:31:27] Speaker D: No, I didn't have McCaffrey. [01:31:28] Speaker C: So you didn't have that? [01:31:29] Speaker D: I had who? I don't even know who. [01:31:31] Speaker C: That's all right. [01:31:32] Speaker D: They're not even worth looking up because they're literally ruined your life. They're not starters. They were fine. I won this Week. [01:31:39] Speaker C: But it's playoffs, guys. I mean, Kyle. Yeah. [01:31:42] Speaker D: Good luck. [01:31:43] Speaker C: Playoffs. Yeah, playoffs next week or next year. I'm. I'm looking at joining if we don't. I'm open to the idea you might do it. Wow. [01:31:53] Speaker A: Listeners to the pod. [01:31:54] Speaker C: You know, I'm only doing it if we have only our listeners. Some of these people that are in our pod. I'm not. Or in your league. I'm not sure they listen. That's probably, that's my only stipulation. [01:32:06] Speaker A: That is probably true. It's a big league. [01:32:08] Speaker C: We have a must watch game of the week and I'm going to throw it out there. You listed five. It's. It's called must watch game of the week. I'm telling you what it is. It's Buffalo Detroit. I've only three times on this podcast said that you should bet the mortgage on something. I'm currently 0 and 3 in all of those games. I'm gonna go 1 and 3. The Lions are going to cover the spread and they're gonna beat the Buffalo Bills. [01:32:35] Speaker A: Don't, don't. Don't curse them. [01:32:37] Speaker C: I just did it. [01:32:37] Speaker A: Don't curse them. With your guarantees. [01:32:40] Speaker C: I'm in. [01:32:42] Speaker A: We're blaming. [01:32:43] Speaker D: I did put multiple games. [01:32:44] Speaker C: Should I make it my lock? [01:32:45] Speaker D: No, no. Don't make it your luck. [01:32:47] Speaker C: I got it, guys. [01:32:48] Speaker D: So I did put five games on this must watch because I actually felt like we are getting to the point of the year where playoffs are looming and a lot of these games have some pretty big implications. Buffalo, Detroit obviously is the easiest pick here, but I think Pittsburgh Philly is also a very interesting matchup. Green Bay Seattle is also very interesting. Those three games are really the ones that you're probably going to want to pay attention to the most. But I think Miami and Houston and Tampa and Chargers could also be pretty spicy. [01:33:20] Speaker C: Hey, we're learned a lot before things are becoming. What now? Oh, clear. Clear. Invisible. We're getting a lot of clarity this weekend. [01:33:28] Speaker D: Some. [01:33:28] Speaker C: We got locks and upsets of our week, if you guys don't know this. We pick every single game. Not against the spread, just straight up. And then we have to pick a game that we guarantee will win. They will not lose. If they lose, we get a negative point on our spreadsheet. And if they win, we get a positive point. And out of the upset, we pick one team that we think Vegas is going to get wrong. And if we get it right, like this past week, Kyle and I both picked our upsets. Right. We picked Kyle, picked Seattle And I picked the Rams and they both. Vegas was wrong and we were right. We got a bonus point on those. So we're going to start with our lock of the week. Guaranteed game will win. I have the Detroit Lions lock of the week over the Buffalo Bills. Ian, who is your lock of the week? [01:34:10] Speaker D: Baltimore over the Giants. [01:34:12] Speaker C: Old strategy, Cotton. [01:34:13] Speaker D: I don't even know if that's as close. [01:34:17] Speaker C: It's a 12 and a half point favorite right now. Last time we had that big of a spread was this past week when it was the Eagles over the Carolina Panthers. And that was a very, very close game. By the way, Bryce Young. I'm buying stock on him next year. [01:34:32] Speaker D: Next year. [01:34:33] Speaker C: I'm in. Kyle, who's your lock of the week? Guaranteed. [01:34:37] Speaker A: W. Tough one this week, but I am calling bounce back time for the Cardinals as they take on the New. [01:34:42] Speaker C: England, the team I thought would make the playoffs. I'm not. I'm not. Heard about that. What's your upset? Pick of the week. Vegas got it wrong. [01:34:48] Speaker A: Vegas has the Seattle Seahawks as an underdog against the Packers. I think the Seahawks are surging at the right time, getting healthy at the right time. I like what I see from their defense. [01:34:56] Speaker C: You were shocked at my packers pick of not making the playoffs and now you're picking against them. [01:35:00] Speaker D: I even picked Seattle too, as well. [01:35:02] Speaker C: I like it. I like it. Ian, you're upset. [01:35:05] Speaker D: Miami over. [01:35:05] Speaker C: Not mad. Just who do you think is going to win? [01:35:08] Speaker D: Miami. Miami over Houston. [01:35:10] Speaker C: Oh, Houston off the by. [01:35:14] Speaker D: Well, they've kind of had some weird games. [01:35:16] Speaker C: Okay, I like it. We're going to see if the bye week is worth it to me. I'm getting my upset pick real early, guys. How are the 49ers favored? [01:35:25] Speaker D: I didn't even realize. [01:35:26] Speaker C: Two and a half points. [01:35:28] Speaker D: This must be. I mean, it didn't matter. [01:35:29] Speaker C: What does Vegas know? We don't know. [01:35:32] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:35:33] Speaker D: It's probably because their records are relatively similar and recency bias. [01:35:38] Speaker A: The Rams have just looked great. [01:35:40] Speaker C: I love a good recency bias. [01:35:42] Speaker D: But on top of that, the, the Niners, no matter where they're playing, are going to have home field advantage. That's just the reality of the Rams. I feel bad for the Rams. Okay, okay, let me be clear, okay? I feel bad for the Rams players, not the team in the organization and the owner. They knowingly moved to that team to a place that didn't want them. But I do feel bad that the team in their own stadium on average has to be in a hard count because they can't hear their own calls in their own stadium. [01:36:17] Speaker A: That's very funny, actually. [01:36:18] Speaker D: This trash. If I was on that team, I'd hate that. [01:36:21] Speaker C: We have our last word right here. I know normally you guys get mad at me because I always have the last word. I'm asking your permission today. Am I allowed to have the last word? [01:36:30] Speaker A: You. [01:36:30] Speaker C: If you say no, I. We're done and I'm okay with it. I will not be mad at you. [01:36:34] Speaker D: Now I'm curious. I want to know what your last word is. [01:36:38] Speaker C: I don't know. [01:36:39] Speaker A: Permission granted. [01:36:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:36:40] Speaker A: I'm tired of wearing these headphones. [01:36:42] Speaker C: Dude. The College Football Playoff is out in Notre Dame. I'm telling you, I could see him winning the national championship. [01:36:52] Speaker A: Oh, man. [01:36:52] Speaker C: I haven't said it out loud. I have not said that this is the year you want to be in it. They have to play Indiana. I do. [01:37:01] Speaker D: They? [01:37:01] Speaker C: Currently, I. One of my best friends, Doug Bloom, hopefully he's listening to this. I have texted him this week and I refuse to type the letters inu. And any text messages to him do. [01:37:12] Speaker D: They receive, by the way, in the college playoffs. [01:37:15] Speaker C: What did you say? So are they going to reset it? It's set to bracket. Yep. So if they win, they play Georgia, who has a quarterback who's out hurt his elbow at the end of the first half. Dude, I'm looking for. You know, right now, Notre Dame is playing Indiana in a playoff game in the snow at Notre Dame. [01:37:34] Speaker A: Whoa. [01:37:35] Speaker C: Right now, the lowest ticket price for all these other games. The first. There's four first round games in the College Football Playoff. Lowest ticket for these other games are 200, 300, 180. Do you know what the lowest ticket is at the Notre Dame game? 1300. 1300 right now. Yikes. And it's climbing. So I am so amped. I've. I've now downloaded three podcasts that talk about Notre Dame and that Marcus Freeman is on their head. Coach, who, by the way, the greatest looking coach of all time. I'm straight, okay? I'm comfortable in my sexuality to say it's the most handsome coach that's ever. He makes Charlie Weiss looks like Jabba the Hut compared to the. I mean, wow, this guy's great. Okay, Google him right now. Can you look up Marcus Freeman? He's. He has never lost with a quarter zip. That guy looks great in a quarter zip. Are you kidding me? Good looking guy. [01:38:28] Speaker A: All right, all right. [01:38:29] Speaker D: Yeah, I got to see him. [01:38:31] Speaker C: A quarter Filipino as well. Shout out to. [01:38:33] Speaker A: He doesn't miss A day at the gym, dude. [01:38:35] Speaker D: Let me see this. [01:38:36] Speaker C: He played linebacker for the Colts. Linebacker for Ohio State. Back in. He's a good looking guy. That lineup, that lineup he's got on his head. I'm jealous as bald man. [01:38:45] Speaker A: Okay. [01:38:46] Speaker C: He's got some serious Notre Dame playoff. Dude. I'm height. [01:38:51] Speaker D: Pecs are huge. [01:38:52] Speaker C: I'm telling you. Our last day of school is the 20th Notre Dame plays that night. They play a Friday night. They're the only Friday night game. And then there's three games on Saturday. If any of you text me Friday night phone deleted. You're gone. I'm not looking at you. You're done. I'm deleting your text. I'm not answering it. [01:39:10] Speaker A: Okay. [01:39:10] Speaker C: Go Irish. [01:39:13] Speaker D: Cool. [01:39:17] Speaker C: I want to thank you for listening to the point after. If you're still here right now, guys, I don't know if you know this. We're a buck 40 into the day, an hour and 40 minutes into this pod and you're still here. I'm proud. This is a good pot. I'm leaving here happy jazzed up. Guys, it's football season. Do not take it for granted. Soon we're gonna be have to be watching basketball. I love basketball, but don't get me wrong, I don't want to be doing that. We're gonna miss. We're gonna miss the duel as G called it. We're gonna miss that, guys. We're gonna miss Drew Lock running for a first down for 37 yards to get a field goal to send it to overtime that no one wants to watch it. Take advantage. This football's still here. [01:40:01] Speaker D: Okay. [01:40:02] Speaker C: Go up to a friend, get a couple pigs in a blanket, invite them over to your house, get a heated blanket, throw some fire on the wood or the wood on the fire and let's have some fun. Thanks for listening.