Super Bowl Bettors: Heads or Tails?

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Get 15% off any order on sellagrate Shop while also supporting this show when you use code pat. That's pat at checkout on C E L E G R E A T Shop. [00:01:05] Speaker B: Welcome to the Point after show with. [00:01:07] Speaker C: Kyle Maurer, Marshall heslav and Ian DeWitt. [00:01:11] Speaker B: This is the show where the guys. [00:01:12] Speaker C: Attempt to pick the winners of the weekly NFL games along with some healthy debate about current topics. [00:01:17] Speaker B: Let's go, let's go, let's go. [00:01:19] Speaker A: Hey, let's do it. Bye, Luca. Everybody's talking about the NBA trade. Literally everybody. Everybody. [00:01:26] Speaker C: I didn't even know anything about any of these people involved, but I knew it was NBA. [00:01:33] Speaker B: Twitter was legit. It was fun. [00:01:36] Speaker C: It was a fun time. [00:01:37] Speaker A: Everybody was talking about. [00:01:38] Speaker C: It wasn't just NBA. My Twitter feed is mostly NFL and that was nothing but basketball when I woke up. [00:01:48] Speaker A: My social media is just the water cooler here at the office. But it's all about Luca and AD and this is crazy. [00:01:54] Speaker C: Yes. [00:01:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:55] Speaker B: Do you think people that listen on two times speed can understand any word that you say? [00:01:59] Speaker A: Kyle, Do I talk fast? [00:02:03] Speaker B: This is for those of you that go back. I'd like you to put it on 0.5 to see if you understood what Kyle said there a couple times. [00:02:09] Speaker A: You know, it's funny because I. I was thinking about that earlier today because I. [00:02:13] Speaker B: Now you're doing it for effect. [00:02:14] Speaker A: No, seriously, like I was listening back to trans week. I had a team retreat. [00:02:19] Speaker B: Stop. [00:02:19] Speaker A: And we had a lot of meetings. [00:02:20] Speaker C: I really wish you didn't point this out cuz now I can't tell. [00:02:23] Speaker A: Stop. [00:02:24] Speaker C: I Can't tell if it's real. [00:02:26] Speaker A: Slow down. I'm not going to slow down. But last week I had team retreat, and I had a lot of my co workers here with me here in Jackson. It was really special, and we had a lot of meetings, and I recorded them. And this week, I've been, you know, going through those transcripts of those meetings. Kind of used an AI tool, actually, to record and transcribe these meetings and generate summaries with action items, et cetera. It's pretty cool. And I was listening back to make sure that, like, the associations were correct. Like, it identified the right speaker, saying the right thing throughout. And I was listening back to a bunch of it, and I was. I couldn't stand listening to myself because in these conversations, these are business conversations that are very serious with other directors and the owners of the company. And. And I'm going over business fundamentals and our marketing strategy and how we allocate resources and personnel issues, blah, blah, blah, And. And I couldn't stand listening to me talk. I felt like I was so slow and sluggish, and everything I said was just drawn out. Kyle was just painful to listen, to take a breath. [00:03:25] Speaker B: All right, we're good. You're great on here. You got great voice. [00:03:29] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:03:29] Speaker C: It's the best. [00:03:30] Speaker B: All right. I don't know about the best, but. [00:03:32] Speaker A: You know, one thing that we did do, we had a tournament. [00:03:35] Speaker C: What kind of tournament? [00:03:36] Speaker A: An Oreos tournament, of course. [00:03:38] Speaker C: Of course. [00:03:39] Speaker A: I bought 16 different kinds of Oreos of choreos. [00:03:45] Speaker B: Yay. [00:03:46] Speaker A: Thank you. We did. We had a big chalkboard. We did a bracket, March Madness style, to see which is the greatest of all the available. [00:03:55] Speaker C: What was the goat? Oreo. [00:03:57] Speaker B: He didn't have an answer for that. You know, they didn't get a champion. All of this work. I know they made a bracket. [00:04:05] Speaker A: We got to the final four, and then everybody had to leave. [00:04:08] Speaker C: What's the final four? [00:04:09] Speaker A: At least the final four, I want to say from memory. I think were. And, you know, some of this is the seating, for sure. Definitely. [00:04:16] Speaker B: White fudge upset, by the way. [00:04:18] Speaker A: I think White Fudge was probably heading towards being the favorite, and which. I'm not surprised. I think it was a favorite from the beginning. Loaded was in there in the final four. [00:04:30] Speaker C: What's loaded? [00:04:31] Speaker B: Oreo smashed up within the cream of the Oreo. [00:04:35] Speaker C: Oh, my gosh. [00:04:36] Speaker A: It's pretty good. [00:04:37] Speaker B: It's like a open your third eye Oreo kind of. It's crazy. [00:04:40] Speaker A: It upset cl. It's upset original in the first Round loaded, which nobody had ever tried it before, but everyone liked it. And I want to say Lemon progressed to the first round to the final four. [00:04:52] Speaker B: Lemon and I think double fudge or double stuffed? [00:04:56] Speaker A: Mega stuff. Double stuff. Mega stuff. Double stuff. I did not think metal mega stuff was going all the way, but final. [00:05:03] Speaker C: Four appearance, more stuff. [00:05:05] Speaker A: I mean, I mean, I don't. I feel like classic has enough stuff. I don't even want double stuff, let alone mega stuff, but did not go very far. Not a hit. We had the tiramisu Thins, and, you know, those were okay. I think they beat regular thins. [00:05:21] Speaker C: I like, like the mint. Mint chocolate ones. [00:05:26] Speaker A: Mint did okay. [00:05:27] Speaker C: I would have probably put. [00:05:28] Speaker B: By the way, if you're wondering, this is not an ad. I know we have started a couple times selling we aren't sponsored by them, contrary to not yet. [00:05:39] Speaker C: Hey, Oreo. Oreo people, we're ready. [00:05:42] Speaker A: I want those post. [00:05:43] Speaker B: You know what Tommy works for, right? Oreo. [00:05:45] Speaker C: Wow. [00:05:46] Speaker A: Tommy. [00:05:46] Speaker C: Tommy boy. [00:05:47] Speaker A: Let's talk. Let's talk. [00:05:48] Speaker C: Come on, man. [00:05:48] Speaker A: All right. [00:05:49] Speaker B: You want to hear my question of the day? It wasn't anything to do with Oreos, even though we just kind of had one. I have a question. I've already asked Kyle the question, so I want to hear your answer. So I'm going to get started. You ready? [00:05:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:00] Speaker B: I put in front of you a bowl. [00:06:02] Speaker C: A bowl. [00:06:02] Speaker B: Inside the bowl, I put 1,000 grapes. [00:06:06] Speaker C: That's a lot of grapes. [00:06:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:08] Speaker B: Each grape that you eat, $50,000 in your pocket. [00:06:13] Speaker C: Wow. [00:06:15] Speaker B: But one of the 1,000 grapes is poisonous and you die. [00:06:19] Speaker C: Ah, yes. [00:06:20] Speaker B: How many are you eating? [00:06:22] Speaker C: $50,000. [00:06:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:24] Speaker B: Don't answer, Kyle. [00:06:26] Speaker A: Okay. Come on. [00:06:29] Speaker C: Oh. [00:06:29] Speaker A: What do you think? What's the number. [00:06:33] Speaker C: One? [00:06:34] Speaker B: Really stunned. Are you absolutely stunned that he said one? [00:06:39] Speaker A: What did you expect? [00:06:40] Speaker B: What did you think? Zero. [00:06:41] Speaker C: One. [00:06:41] Speaker A: You thought he would say zero? [00:06:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:43] Speaker C: Out of a thousand. [00:06:44] Speaker B: I made a bet with his wife, with Kyle's wife and said, oh, there's no way he'll say a number. [00:06:50] Speaker C: What number did you say? [00:06:52] Speaker A: I said zero. [00:06:53] Speaker B: Oh, you said zero. You know, Kyle, money's not worth. My. Ian is like, yeah, my money's not worth my life. But how about once? [00:07:08] Speaker A: That's like two years salary for a teacher. [00:07:11] Speaker C: You said 50,000, right? [00:07:13] Speaker B: 50K. [00:07:14] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, once is, like, the only. I feel like your odds are pretty good with one, but I think, you know, the amount of, like, money that would solve most of my problems. [00:07:29] Speaker A: 50 grand would solve most of your. [00:07:30] Speaker C: Problems for me to be happy. That would Take care of our student debt. And then we would probably be able to maybe upgrade our house. And that's. Honestly, that's all I would need. That's all we need. [00:07:40] Speaker B: Dang. [00:07:40] Speaker A: That's pretty good. [00:07:41] Speaker B: I have a guess for how many I would eat. [00:07:45] Speaker C: 999. [00:07:50] Speaker B: No. [00:07:50] Speaker A: RIP Marshall. RIP you. [00:07:54] Speaker C: I don't know. You may be like, not more than. Not more than. [00:07:57] Speaker A: Like, seriously, how many cookies before you. [00:08:00] Speaker B: Oh, I said 50. [00:08:01] Speaker C: 50. Really? Wow. I see. Feel like. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if I would do that many. One. One feels very risky to me. [00:08:11] Speaker A: Yeah. I was a family that needs. [00:08:13] Speaker C: Right. I was very hesitant. I sort of said, hey, I don't. [00:08:19] Speaker B: Have kids or a wife. [00:08:19] Speaker C: But, like, no, I mean, like, your. [00:08:22] Speaker A: Family would rather live with you in poverty for decades to come than to just have a little more financial comfort, right? Yeah. And risk you 100. [00:08:31] Speaker B: By the way, if I diet at, you know what did I say 50. If I die at 49, I don't. The money doesn't go anywhere to be. It's gone. Like, I heard somebody's like, well, what if I die at 36 going up to 50? Then you die. [00:08:46] Speaker C: I debated on saying 0. Cause I was like, I don't know if it's worth it. [00:08:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:51] Speaker B: Guys, if. Also, if you're wondering for our video audience that we don't have. That doesn't exist. That doesn't watch the podcast with us, we are starting this podcast a whole hour late because I fell asleep. And I'm. I don't. Potentially narcoleptic. Even though I just fell asleep after school. As to which Kyle was banging on the window of my house, of my bedroom. [00:09:12] Speaker C: We were concerned. [00:09:13] Speaker B: Pause. And I'm telling you, I mean, I just woke up to a bunch of text messages, bunch of calls, and I'm like, man, I'm pretty sure that was somebody in my window. I'm telling you, it makes me a little happier to hear you guys go, dude, if I was in his shoes, I'd be taking a nap every day after work. I'm like, okay, I feel a little bit better about it. [00:09:36] Speaker C: I did. That's not even a question. [00:09:42] Speaker B: We also have one take on here from a person who will rename Nameless. Ian has been injured. Marshall was injured last year. Kyle, look out. [00:09:55] Speaker A: We've kind of had that conversation. [00:09:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:58] Speaker C: For people who aren't aware because we haven't had. This is. [00:10:01] Speaker B: This is for the video audience. That. [00:10:02] Speaker C: This is for the v. Video audience. [00:10:04] Speaker B: Go Ahead. [00:10:04] Speaker C: Well, I. Yeah, I tore my. Tore my acl, so. [00:10:08] Speaker A: Right. [00:10:09] Speaker C: That's a sad thing. [00:10:10] Speaker A: There's always next season. [00:10:11] Speaker C: There is. The Lion's injury bug got to me. Dan Campbell is biting off the wrong freaking kneecaps. Okay. [00:10:20] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. [00:10:21] Speaker B: The jokes when Jump Paul said, like, dude, you really want to be on the Lions that bad? I was like, man, that was too soon. That was too soon. [00:10:29] Speaker C: I took it in. Good. [00:10:30] Speaker B: Yeah, you're a lot nicer about it. I mean, we're hoping for a fast, speedy recovery for you. Thank you. [00:10:35] Speaker C: Appreciate that. Staff volleyball against students. [00:10:38] Speaker A: Oh, man. [00:10:38] Speaker C: I was doing so well. [00:10:40] Speaker B: Were you in the front or back row? [00:10:42] Speaker C: I was front row. [00:10:42] Speaker B: Okay, okay, okay. [00:10:43] Speaker C: I was crushing it. I was quite literally destroying them. [00:10:47] Speaker B: I was, like, quite literally crushing it. [00:10:50] Speaker C: And I got hurt, and we were winning the match. I got to play. And we won that match by a pretty substantial margin. I got hurt, and it was very much downhill after that. So I'm not saying I'm MVP there, but. [00:11:08] Speaker B: But. All right, guys, we're. We're 10 minutes in. Let's talk some football. Guys, we had one of the greatest conference championship games I've ever seen. That was one of my favorites. [00:11:19] Speaker A: Which one? [00:11:20] Speaker C: Which one? I thought I was gonna say. I thought actually both. I thought both of them were pretty good games. [00:11:26] Speaker B: Yeah, they were good games. One game didn't reflect it as much as the other one, but I think the Chief is always. It's always been drama. There's always a component of it that just. The blood is boiling. And I think we're going to hear from it, from some of our listeners. They got some good questions for us. We're going to start with Addison. I'm looking for Addison. To wit, I'm looking forward to the UFL kickoff. That has a lot to do with the AFC and NFC championship. What do you guys think about the ufl? [00:11:59] Speaker C: Oh, this is. This is a man who's completely checked out football. He is like, I do not care anymore. [00:12:08] Speaker B: So it's turned into GRU a little bit. Well, I did not care. [00:12:13] Speaker C: I do not care. [00:12:15] Speaker A: I like it. [00:12:17] Speaker C: Don't. They didn't the ufsl, usafl. [00:12:23] Speaker B: Love you. [00:12:24] Speaker C: I can't remember. [00:12:25] Speaker A: USFL and the XFL merged to create the ufl. [00:12:29] Speaker C: This is technically a new league this year. [00:12:33] Speaker B: Boom, right? [00:12:34] Speaker A: A bigger. Bigger league, though. I think the same teams, right? [00:12:37] Speaker C: I love it when it's a bigger league. [00:12:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:39] Speaker C: Love big ones. [00:12:41] Speaker A: It's only going to get more interesting. [00:12:42] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:12:42] Speaker A: You guys, very big, huge yes. [00:12:46] Speaker B: All right, next question. Next question. [00:12:49] Speaker C: We should actually go to another game. [00:12:51] Speaker A: I actually thought because do UFL in. [00:12:55] Speaker C: The office because the crowd size. [00:12:56] Speaker B: Welcome to the UFL after smaller. [00:12:59] Speaker C: It was actually like we were yelling. [00:13:01] Speaker B: At players on the field. Players, like, they were like, who the heck are these people yelling at? Like, Desmond Ritter's backup. [00:13:09] Speaker C: Gosh. I know. I will never forget. Some dude got like. [00:13:13] Speaker B: What was his name? [00:13:14] Speaker C: Hammered. I cannot. There was one guy we can constantly were cheering for. [00:13:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:19] Speaker C: And his family was like, right behind us. But there was one guy who got hammered on a kickoff. [00:13:27] Speaker B: Just killed, just destroyed. [00:13:29] Speaker C: And I remember blatantly yelling, are you okay? To which I'm pretty sure he heard me. [00:13:37] Speaker B: And I'm pretty sure his mom and dad were like, I really hope so. I really, really hope so. It's fun. [00:13:41] Speaker A: You get on the Jumbotron all the time. [00:13:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:44] Speaker B: Your kids were on it pretty consistently when you guys went to a game without. [00:13:47] Speaker A: True. It's true. [00:13:48] Speaker C: It was fun. I'm not gonna lie. I. [00:13:50] Speaker B: The novelty. Well, I mean, for those of us that watch a game, Kyle was in the MVP lounge. [00:13:55] Speaker C: What was the. [00:13:56] Speaker B: Remember, he was in the lounge for like half of the game. [00:13:58] Speaker C: We were watching halftime. [00:13:59] Speaker B: Like, what. Where's Kyle in the lounge? What? [00:14:03] Speaker C: Who is the dj? [00:14:04] Speaker B: Oh, it was really bad. A halftime UFL game performance. You're really grasping at straws here. It was pretty cringey. [00:14:14] Speaker C: I kind of wish they just bit the bullet and didn't do one. [00:14:18] Speaker B: Okay, we have two more questions on here. I want to get to. And then we're going to get to some conference championship takes from you guys. It's nice to have. I will say, having last week off, we just didn't have to fall for the bait of everybody talking about the refs like every social media did for the entire week. [00:14:37] Speaker C: I do have thoughts on that. We can talk about it. [00:14:39] Speaker B: Totally. Tim DeWitt, father, father dearest, as some like to call him. Lions were not going to beat the Eagles. Did their window close? [00:14:50] Speaker C: I would agree that I didn't think they were going to beat the Eagles. The Lions defense wasn't going to be able to do anything. Saquon would have ran all over them. And I. You guys know how I feel about defenses in terms of winning a Super Bowl. They have the number one defense in the league. I think they would have slowed down the lines pretty substantially. I think the Lions would have scored, but I don't know if they would have been able to just move the ball as easily on them as they have against other teams. So I, I don't think they would have beat the Eagles. I don't think their windows closed though. I. [00:15:25] Speaker A: Not a chance. [00:15:26] Speaker C: It's easy. A lot of people were like sky is falling because they're losing. They. They lost their two coordinators and there's the stat that no team has won the super bowl after losing both of their coordinators. And I get that. But honestly I think. I just think Ben Johnson might be getting way too much credit for the Lions offensive powerhouse. I mean any offensive coordinator is going to look amazing with an O line that good and a running back that good and a receivers that he had. So they're still going to have all those guys. They're probably going to beef up the defense even more. I really like their guy that they promoted Shepard to defensive coordinator in house guy. I really liked that hire the new oc. He was on the lines previously. So this is effectively like an in house. And I think the, the mantra of the Lions offense is not going to change. It's still going to be aggressive and tricky and they're going to. They're still. Their O line coach is still there, which I think is actually a bigger deal in some cases because of how good their O line is. And I believe in the talent and the. Just the injury bug was really bad. [00:16:53] Speaker B: I'm excited to see what they'll be like if Hutch comes back and is 100% healthy. I really have enjoyed hearing their name as a buzz trade candidate person. [00:17:05] Speaker C: I've heard too as like a Super bowl bound team. [00:17:09] Speaker B: Really, really fun to hear the Lions as a team that could go for Miles Garrett. Could. Could go for Cooper Cup. [00:17:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:21] Speaker B: Two people that have requested trades. Well, one said that he would be traded. One requested. But to hear the Lions as that. That's. Those are two like pretty game changing pieces. Yeah, I, I would for either side of the ball and that would be. [00:17:37] Speaker C: I've already seen. Wow. I've already seen people like kind of trying to like brainstorm like okay, Miles Garrett wants out. What Imagine first off, imagine a world with Miles Garrett on one side and Aiden Hutchinson on the other side. That seems like a absolute nightmare of a D line to deal with and I would love it because you could effectively. They technically have Zadarius Smith for one more year, but they could drop him before free agency if they want like. [00:18:11] Speaker B: $68 million to play with right now. [00:18:13] Speaker C: Yeah. They are on the higher end of cap space so they have a lot of cap. They've really. Brad Holmes has done A great job of working that Cap. [00:18:21] Speaker B: No cap did there. Kyle. No cap means that. [00:18:25] Speaker C: Answer the question. Their window not closed. Not even close to closed, actually. I think they've really built this team out to last, you know, longer than people think. [00:18:38] Speaker B: Our next question is a great one because it comes with a bit of, like, a cut to the side. Eric Giannunzio writes in what was your worst preseason prediction? Some are saying that Nick Sirianni. Nick Sirianni should be fired by Marshall. That he said seven times throughout the season is his worst. What do you guys think was your worst take? Because that's easily mine. Easily. Was there anything this year that you looked at and said, I'm hoping this. [00:19:10] Speaker C: Would be a great question to, like, come back to after the Super Bowl's all done and we can, like, reflect on, like, listen back to, like, that preseason pod we did where we had, like, a little, like, let's make a time capsule and, like, let's open this back up. Pretty sure we did that. I think I mentioned something about Harbaugh on the Ravens being fired. [00:19:33] Speaker B: Yep. [00:19:34] Speaker C: And I. [00:19:34] Speaker B: It was Ravens or Steelers. I went back and checked some of it. [00:19:40] Speaker C: Now, to be fair, damn it, it. [00:19:44] Speaker B: Was the wrong one. I was ready for it and everything. [00:19:47] Speaker C: But to be fair. Oh, I said that at the same time. [00:19:51] Speaker B: It's like, we planned it. [00:19:52] Speaker C: Oh, that was good. They both ended up pretty much in the exact same situation, though, that I thought they were gonna be where they got to the playoffs, but then they didn't do anything. Now, granted, I'll give the Ravens some flack. They had a much harder game, and that was going to be a tougher sell for them, but I nailed the Steelers, as far as I'm concerned. I, like, pegged that to a T. So while technically they're both not going to get fired or traded or anything, nothing's going to happen. [00:20:23] Speaker B: I like that it didn't happen, but you're like, hey, I nailed it. It's like I've never heard somebody say I got the answer right. But also I wrote a T and an F at the same time. You can't say I was wrong. [00:20:36] Speaker C: What I I. There was two parts to the prediction was the first part was that their teams are potentially going to get into the playoffs, but they're going to do the same thing that they do every year, which is choke, not win, and then be bounced out, and then they're, like, meaningless. That happened. And then I added one of them would get fired or traded, which didn't happen, which I Like the part where. [00:20:58] Speaker B: Like, you go spicy and you're like, yeah, this is gonna happen. All right, so that part didn't happen. But the other part, that wasn't. Okay, thanks. I was right. Do you remember? No. It's good. You crack me up. It's one of my. It's endearing about you, and it's endearing. [00:21:15] Speaker C: Kyle, do you remember any of your preseason ones? I don't. I feel like I have to listen back to it. [00:21:20] Speaker A: You specifically preseason. [00:21:23] Speaker B: Just like early season, I guess. [00:21:25] Speaker A: Early season. Yeah. [00:21:26] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:21:26] Speaker A: I remember a lot of the takes, and I feel vindicated in a lot of the. A lot of the takes that I made. And it's pat you on the back. I wasn't. I wasn't too far off, I think, on most of the things that I expressed some, like, some confidence in. But there are a few things that I feel like I was. That was. That was a myth. I think I expected the Denver Broncos to be the worst team in the NFL this year. Like, I. I really was very low on the Broncos going in. I had no confidence. I guess I didn't know anything about this. This Bo, Nick's character. Drafted, overdrafted, as if he didn't have. [00:22:03] Speaker B: Six seasons of college football for you to see him. [00:22:06] Speaker A: He wasn't really a top prospect. He looked like, you know, maybe. Maybe functional. I didn't re. I wasn't really believing in the Sean Payton taking this guy and. And making him, you know, a high performer, especially early. It seemed like it was reaching, overreaching in the draft when there were better prospects available or even on. Even on the free agent market. I just wasn't buying it. And from how bad they looked last year, how little they changed with their roster, how. Just devoid of any, like, really meaningful recognizable talent on their team, I thought, there's no. There's no chance for this. This is a joke. You're trotting out this team in 2024. So I definitely made a lot of disparaging remarks about that team and expected them to be at the very bottom of the NFL, and I was pretty far from correct in that regard. [00:23:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:23:03] Speaker A: I think all of us said the Vikings are definitely going to be at the bottom of the NFL. All of us expected that. [00:23:09] Speaker C: I definitely didn't expect the Vikings to be where they were. I'm still not. Yeah. I don't know what's going to happen with Sam Darnold, but Bo Nix is. [00:23:18] Speaker B: In the same recruiting classes. Tua. [00:23:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:21] Speaker B: They both graduated in 2018 from high school yeah, it's crazy. [00:23:27] Speaker C: I'm wondering how much that kind of time frame benefited Bo. [00:23:32] Speaker A: Probably a lot. [00:23:33] Speaker C: I mean, but also you look at. [00:23:35] Speaker B: This and say, it's the same one as Spencer Rattler. Did that benefit him? I could go down the list. It's the same one as Jaden Daniels. [00:23:41] Speaker C: I was like, how quickly did Jaden Daniels go in? Was he older or younger for his. Like, did he go in sooner? [00:23:48] Speaker B: Jaden Daniels and Bo Nix were in the same class, so you gotta think they both transferred out of schools. They both had injuries at their time, so they both were in college. But there's other people that had the same thing. Like Sam Howell at North Carolina, played there. You know, people like Max Dugan for tcu, who was in national championship against Michigan a couple years ago. So you know that it's always kind of interesting. I like looking back at like old recruiting classes and seeing where people lie, especially if they went early, went late. Like people that were with Trevor Lawrence, like, oh my gosh, this guy was in Trevor Lawrence, this recruiting class. Oh my gosh, really? [00:24:22] Speaker C: I will say now that I'm thinking about it, I wasn't super high on the Texans or Stroud. I thought they were going to regress, which on a technical standpoint, they kind of did. But I will say down the stretch they. He looked just as good. So I do feel like I was wrong on Stroud that he didn't kind of. And his regression really wasn't always his fault either. He had a lot of injuries to the team. So I do feel like I was wrong on them because I, I pegged them as regressing, but they regressed for the wrong for different reasons. And so I don't really count that because they ended up playing pretty tough. Some people would even argue maybe they could have won against the Chiefs. [00:25:03] Speaker B: Some would argue, right, but we're gonna. [00:25:06] Speaker C: We'Re not gonna argue because you don't know what they lost. [00:25:09] Speaker B: So some would argue that's how it's gonna go. I like, I like that perspective that. [00:25:13] Speaker A: I want to know what. [00:25:14] Speaker B: Now we don't have a question on here that talked about the Chiefs Bills game. I'm giving you the floor to try. I'm challenging you here. Give me 30 seconds of unique, perspective filled thoughts on that game of which the Chiefs beat the Bills in a close game. Fourth quarter lead changing back and forth sometimes. Controversial. Hit me with it, Ian. [00:25:44] Speaker C: I'd say there was only one deserving, controversial play, which was the catch. That was kind of an interception. But then it kind of touched the ground. Whatever it was, it was like, what, 26 yard gain on that play. I don't know what it is, but the Bills committed a penalty, so they would have got 10 yards and a fresh set anyways. That's the only play. I'm like, you could look back on that and maybe question it. That fourth and one there was dumb. That was bad play calling the entire time they tried to QB sneak. I hate Romo, but the first time they snuck it, Romo called it and he said, josh Allen likes to sneak it to the left side and they're going to stuff it. And they did exactly that. And they did that like five freaking times. And what in the game. And what do they do? One of the biggest moments where they have to close this thing out, fourth and one, they run the same dang play that hadn't been working the entire time, not to mention to set up that bad play, was a couple other bad plays, just bad play calling. And they're like, people are masking it by saying, oh, the refs love the Chiefs. And I'm like, no, the you tell the Bills fans if you told them, hey, at the end of the season, your quarterback, Josh Allen against the Chiefs to go to the super bowl, has the ball down by three. There's 3 minutes and 30 seconds left in the game and the Bills have the ball. I bet. I guarantee you every Bills fan was thinking at that moment, we're going to the Super Bowl. You just got to go get down a touchdown. And what would like, how could you not with like your MVP caliber quarterback, right? They had that game, they had it and they coughed it up. And then they even had a second opportunity where all they had to do is stop them before the fourth down. I know I went way over 30 seconds here. [00:27:41] Speaker A: Can you really, in all honesty, with sincerity, can you say they coughed it up when that's what every team did against the Chiefs this year? [00:27:53] Speaker C: True. And so you could. There's. [00:27:55] Speaker A: I don't want to talk anything different about it. [00:27:57] Speaker C: I don't want. I don't want to take anything away from like, do we have a league. [00:28:00] Speaker A: Of 17 different choking, coughing teams? Like all of that's what they all do, but they only do it against this team. [00:28:08] Speaker C: You're right. And this is what's like, I think I finally. What I've watched, like, what I have learned from being a Lions fan, especially the last two seasons when they have been very successful and especially this year, just 15 wins, like insane. What I have learned is that teams like that, that are capable of winning will win regardless of a bad call. They will overcome it. They will just beat the snot out of people. And it's when. And it reminded me back when the lines were kind of so. So like 2014 playoff Lions. You know, everyone's raving about the PI that got picked up and Pettigrew and. [00:28:54] Speaker B: All this thing at a group that's a name. [00:28:56] Speaker C: And I think about that and for a long time I was pissed off about that game because I was like, oh my gosh, the refs robbed us. But now I kind of reflect back and I'm like, you want to know what? The Lions didn't score like almost any second half points that game. They didn't deserve to win it. [00:29:15] Speaker A: Right. [00:29:16] Speaker C: It's the end of the story. They didn't deserve to win it because if they did, they would have. Everybody's got to deal with the refs. And you want to know what? Roger Goodell's right in the fact that the refs need to probably be better and consistent. Yeah, but that's like the end of the line. And if you're going to make a 4th and 1 QB sneak and bank on the fact that you're going to hopefully get a better positive marker, good luck, dude. [00:29:38] Speaker B: I just think that it is interesting to look and say like that those inches potentially change the way that we look at an entire career of Josh Allen. [00:29:52] Speaker C: I'm done with Josh. [00:29:55] Speaker B: Okay, whoa. [00:29:56] Speaker C: I'm done. For real, for real. I'm done. [00:29:59] Speaker A: He played a great game. [00:30:00] Speaker C: He did play a great game. [00:30:01] Speaker B: He has outplayed Patrick Mahomes in every category every time they played in the playoffs. And he is oh and four or oh and three. [00:30:09] Speaker C: I'm not gonna say he's a back. He's. He's a great quarterback. MVP type level quarterback. That's not why I'm done with him. This team. Maybe I'm not done with Allen. I'm done with Bill's fans, though. [00:30:23] Speaker B: Bill's fans are the Bills. Because you maybe just a Bill, you ragged on the play call. You're right. [00:30:28] Speaker C: You're right, Marshall. [00:30:29] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:30:29] Speaker C: Everything about. [00:30:30] Speaker B: Say it again. [00:30:31] Speaker C: You're right. Thank you, Marshall. You are correct. Everything about the Bills from their players, their coaches, the team, their fans, new facility. I'm done. [00:30:41] Speaker B: Let's go. [00:30:42] Speaker C: I'm done with. [00:30:43] Speaker B: I haven't heard this, but I've not heard this side of Ian. I'm all for it. [00:30:46] Speaker C: Do you want to know why? [00:30:47] Speaker B: Can I tell you what I'm done with. You're going to be surprised. I'm done with Lamar. [00:30:52] Speaker C: Ooh, Can I finish? Why? I'm done with the Bills. [00:30:55] Speaker B: Yeah, let's have a done off. Okay, Kyle, you're up after me, so I'm done. Well done. [00:31:00] Speaker C: Specifically because they want to cry about the Chiefs and the refs laying in bed together and all this crap. Do you want to know the only quarterback that has a YouTube highlight reel of flops? The only quarterback that has a highlight reel of flops is Josh Allen. This dude is a flopper. I hate that. I hate it when any quarterback does it. I hate it. It's bad for the game. It's bad for the game. I didn't like it when Stafford would do it. I don't like it when I see Mahomes do it. But Josh Allen does it so much more and he gets it. Half the time. He will get those calls, and I hate it. And so that team, you know, you don't get to complain about the refs. You play the game just like everybody else does. Go away. I'm done with you until you're in the super bowl and you win it. Goodbye. [00:31:58] Speaker B: I love this. The hotness of this take. [00:32:01] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. [00:32:02] Speaker B: Can I tell you why I'm done with Lamar? I'm not really done with him. Is really kind of spicy for me to even say that out loud on the pod. To have that as an audio that you guys could use against me for the future. Not happy about it. I can't. I can't justify rooting for him anymore. Like, I was like, he's gonna be better. They're gonna win. They got a running game. They can't get away from the running game. They can't. It's Derrick Henry. [00:32:25] Speaker A: Come on. [00:32:27] Speaker B: They did. They just. Every time I think that they're gonna do it, they just hurt me. And I'm like, I just can't openly root and know and have faith in it anymore. They're going to become the new Dolphins for me, picking against them. That's what's going to happen next year. Because I often. I always pick incorrectly about the Dolphins. [00:32:45] Speaker A: Right. [00:32:46] Speaker B: They will be the new Dolphins. Kyle, is there anything from that game that you took away as, like, how are we not talking about this. [00:32:55] Speaker C: Or. [00:32:56] Speaker A: Anything you're done with when you start, when we're getting repeats, when we're doing reruns here in this league? Like, what. What can we talk about that hasn't been talked about? Like, I mean, we on our pod maybe haven't Talked Steve Spagnola to death. Everybody else, maybe we haven't. Everybody else has. They're like, oh, SpaghettiOs. He's. If there's a hall of fame of coordinators, he should be. He should be enshrined in it. There's no question about it. And I think he's one of the unsung heroes of this winning franchise, this. Of this dynasty. [00:33:32] Speaker B: I heard somebody say that they should fire the Bills head coach and just hire Spags just to take away from the Chiefs. I thought that was a really good take. [00:33:41] Speaker C: How do you like that? [00:33:42] Speaker A: Like one of these bad teams. Come on, come on. Like, break this up. That's what's supposed to happen. That's what's supposed. That's why it's supposed to be so hard to continue to win in this league, is because, you know, once you get to the top, just like the Lions did, you know, you start to lose your help, they blossom and they go somewhere else, and it's really hard. You got to go recruit somebody new. You got to get a new D.C. [00:34:00] Speaker C: You got a new Patriots always had those, like, lulls all the time. They would keep losing coordinators. [00:34:05] Speaker A: Right, right. And then you got to pay big contracts to all your big expensive players that you hit on. You hit on a draft pick, and then you got to get those. Those contracts and stuff. And it's really hard to keep a strong team together. And so I don't know what to do disrupt this. Like, maybe on the point after we haven't talked to death, some of these things, some Eagle stuff and some chief stuff, but like everybody else has, I'm just gonna be regurgitating the same thing that the entire sports media is talking about year after year. [00:34:31] Speaker B: I just want to make sure we weren't hitting anything that you thought we gotta be talking about this. Is it all right to move on to biggest news, Kyle? [00:34:39] Speaker A: Yeah, it's probably fine. [00:34:41] Speaker B: Okay. [00:34:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:43] Speaker B: And you're kind of our biggest news like correspondent. Can you tell us a couple things quick, before we get to my segment? [00:34:48] Speaker C: The first two things we kind of already talked about. I didn't know if anybody had any other thoughts. So far, there's only two big names that have hit the potential trade block. With Cooper cup officially being told he's going to be traded. [00:35:01] Speaker B: Cooper Cup. [00:35:02] Speaker C: So they're going to break up the band over there in la, which I'm low key. I kind of hate that. I have kind of, like, ever since Stafford got over there, I've kind of had a. I love Like, I kind of like that team and I like. [00:35:15] Speaker B: Cooper Cup Lions are the favorite to land them. [00:35:18] Speaker C: That would be crazy. [00:35:20] Speaker B: I mean, team that does not need another offensive piece. Getting an offensive piece. [00:35:26] Speaker C: I don't know why they would go for it. I wouldn't hate it. But honestly, St. Brown and JMO, I mean, you got a pretty good tandem right there and then in the backfield. Yeah. I don't think they need them, but I just kind of like cup and Puka, man, like, they were so good together. Options kind of sucks. [00:35:43] Speaker B: Both two wide receivers that could go anywhere on the field and play any part of the position, whether it's slot. [00:35:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:50] Speaker B: Solo or playing the wire out. Like. [00:35:53] Speaker C: And I think it's an interesting move because I actually think the Rams because of how young and how well they hit on their draft picks last year, especially on the defensive side. They have two defensive players inverse. And was it Fisk that are up for like defensive rookies of the year? [00:36:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:13] Speaker C: Like, that is a young defense that's only going to get better next year. I mean, they could and they did well this year. That team can. They can get someplace. [00:36:24] Speaker A: You know, it's crazy because they were supposed to be mortgaging their future. They get rid of all their picks. How did they have such great picks? They, like, scored. [00:36:30] Speaker B: They literally were known as F them picks. [00:36:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:34] Speaker C: So I'm kind of a little shocked that they want to get rid of them just because I think they have a lot of. If Stafford is saying he's going to come back still, I mean, they. They are on a small window with him. He's only got maybe. [00:36:47] Speaker B: Quarterbacks are how you measure windows. So for sure, if you're looking to put in a new window, you better look at your quarterback first. And the other big one that happened was Miles Garrett, hall of future hall of Fame game wrecker, defensive end for the Cleveland Browns is requested a trade. Not told he's traded by, like, Cooper cup requested. And I really liked his statement that basically said the Browns suck. It's like I never woke up and said I wanted to go from Cleveland to Canton. I wanted to win a Super bowl and I can't do that here. [00:37:17] Speaker C: I love the very. [00:37:19] Speaker B: It took you nine seasons to figure that out. [00:37:21] Speaker C: Miles, at the very end of that whole, like, statement he put. With all that being said, I requested a trade. I just thought that was so. [00:37:31] Speaker B: I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. You're great. You're great. You're great. Let's break up. [00:37:35] Speaker A: Yeah. It's great. I don't think you should go far. Miles. I think maybe just a few miles to the northwest. [00:37:41] Speaker C: I would love the blue. I. [00:37:46] Speaker A: The Lions currently are eighth in the league in most salary cap space. They've got $55 million to work with. [00:37:53] Speaker C: They could definitely be a buyer. [00:37:55] Speaker A: They could be a buyer in this offseason. That's even if they pay Hutch. [00:37:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:59] Speaker A: If they do this, they're definitely going. [00:38:00] Speaker C: To have to pay. If they don't pay Hutch, they can technically flex him to next year. The problem with some of these guys that the lines are going to face is they're going to have a lot of guys. [00:38:10] Speaker B: The Piper's coming and you better get ready to pay him. That not only with him but around their team. [00:38:16] Speaker C: Gibbs is going to demand high money. [00:38:19] Speaker B: I mean, if we don't sign to get a pretty good deal somewhere, they're going to lie. You think he's going to go cheap? Does he show the personality of somebody who's willing to wait and take less? [00:38:30] Speaker A: You can work with this. 55 million is a lot to work with. What's the market? What's the top end of the deal for a. Running about 10 million a year, you know, for a. For a JMO caliber wide receiver? [00:38:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:40] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:38:41] Speaker C: JMO probably won't get top dollar, but he'll get some money. [00:38:45] Speaker B: Something in there. [00:38:46] Speaker A: He's probably not 20. [00:38:47] Speaker B: Maybe he'll get some waddle. [00:38:48] Speaker C: J would definitely. I think he's. [00:38:51] Speaker A: That's. That's a bit. That seems a bit rich to get 20. [00:38:55] Speaker C: He had a really good season this year. This was. [00:38:57] Speaker B: It'll be interesting to keep an eye on that part for sure. [00:39:00] Speaker A: Laporta, they probably got to play pay. He's. [00:39:02] Speaker C: Yeah, he had a kind of a down year. They didn't really use him as much in the past game this year than they did the first year. All I know is the Lions, they got a lot of up and comers that they're going to. There's going to be some tough choices who's going to be. [00:39:14] Speaker B: It'll be kind of fun to watch. What Ian has said is the brick and mortar and the foundation of what their team is is the offensive line. And will they continue to put that as their priority when they make these signings? [00:39:27] Speaker A: I just want to see a difference here. I want to see them be buyers. You know, we've gone our. Our whole life. You know, our whole life watching the. [00:39:34] Speaker B: Lions like they went all in on getting Reggie Bush right That's their version. [00:39:38] Speaker A: We meanwhile, there's other teams in the league who like when they say we're. [00:39:42] Speaker B: Into win, we're getting Derrick Henry. [00:39:44] Speaker A: They mean it. They actually do it. [00:39:46] Speaker C: Miles. [00:39:46] Speaker B: This is the thing that like we're getting Patrick Queen. [00:39:49] Speaker A: I struggled to be a Lions fan even when I was enthusiastic about them all those years because year after year, the off season comes and it seems like there's promise, there's reason to believe. And I would always think maybe they'll make a move. Maybe they'll do something. Maybe they'll go for this big coach, maybe they'll go for this free agent. Maybe they'll make this aggressive trade. Maybe they'll try and do something and they never do. [00:40:14] Speaker C: The only clever, the only player that I could see them really putting the paint like the. The stops out for would be. And you, you have to do it for Miles Garrett. That's. That's a game changer. [00:40:26] Speaker A: Get a Miles Garrett or a Max Crosby. I mean you can talk him into. [00:40:28] Speaker B: I heard a two first. [00:40:29] Speaker C: Max Crosby is not leaving the room. [00:40:31] Speaker B: Two first round picks. So what I. They're saying the going rate could be. [00:40:34] Speaker C: Would you do it when you're picking all the way at the back end anyways? Get rid of them. [00:40:41] Speaker A: Right. [00:40:42] Speaker B: I like it. Okay. Any else? Anything else? Biggest news that you want to hit on Ian did we want to talk. [00:40:47] Speaker C: About the coaching cycle? [00:40:49] Speaker B: Just give us the names for the people that didn't hear. Have this biggest news instead of biggest takes. Tell the names. [00:40:54] Speaker C: Some of them we've already heard of. So. But variable to the Patriots. Ben Johnson to the Bears, Aaron Glenn to the Jets. Pete Carroll coming back, Petey to the Raiders. I just loved that Marshawn lynch did that. I don't know how to say this guy's name. Schottenheimer. [00:41:20] Speaker A: Oh yeah. Marty Schottenheimer. [00:41:22] Speaker B: That's right, isn't it? What a terrible Scott shot and Iber. [00:41:27] Speaker C: It's Scott, I'm pretty sure. [00:41:29] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:41:30] Speaker C: Yeah, he was like an internal hire too. He was basically just given the. The Cowboys job because I think the Cowboys botched this pretty bad. Cowboys are terrible right now and I absolutely am all aboard that train. So I love it. Kellen Moore is the favor to Saints and considering they haven't hired anybody, I'm gonna bet that's true. I have a feeling Kellen Moore is going over there, but that's your new head coaches. One interesting thing is concussions are down by 17% since they've been tracking the stat for the last 10 years. This is the lowest they have ever been. New helmets guarding caps. You guys have any thoughts on that or. No. Just like, huh. [00:42:11] Speaker B: I just like that as a good. That's good information for us. [00:42:15] Speaker A: Right. [00:42:15] Speaker B: It's like kind of where I took it. [00:42:16] Speaker C: It's like a positive. [00:42:17] Speaker A: I can't think of a change that they have made that has made the game. We're worse. [00:42:24] Speaker C: It's true. [00:42:24] Speaker A: I'm not thinking like, oh yeah, well, fewer concussions because it sucks more like. Or it's less fun to watch now. Like it's. No, I haven't really noticed anything. And it's still just as fun to watch the game. The sport is still great. [00:42:37] Speaker C: Yep. [00:42:38] Speaker A: And concussions are down, so. Right. That's when I thought it was a win. [00:42:42] Speaker C: I thought it was a good thing. And then the pro ball happened. [00:42:45] Speaker B: So, you know, you're a Pro bowl guy. What was your favorite thing? [00:42:48] Speaker C: Don't. So I wasn't. Nor when it was just to the game. When it was like the old school Pro bowl football game. I didn't really care for it. It was really boring. It was really bad. But the way they've done it. I actually kind of like the way they do it now. Especially the Sunday slate. I don't really watch the. The ones they do on Thursday where it's like all this random stuff. [00:43:10] Speaker A: Right. [00:43:11] Speaker B: The tug of war. [00:43:12] Speaker C: So they do. They. They do. [00:43:15] Speaker A: You can spike the ball the hardest. [00:43:16] Speaker C: Yeah, that one was kind of goofy. Some of them are kind of goofy. But they had a punter challenge in the middle of the flag football game. [00:43:24] Speaker A: Jack Fox. [00:43:26] Speaker B: It was a punt off. [00:43:28] Speaker C: It was quite awesome to watch. I'm not gonna lie. It was really fun to watch. They had to like, they were. They were set back a certain distance and they had two punters per side. It was a non punter did it, which was kind of funny. So like Kyle Juice check did it. [00:43:45] Speaker B: It was endearing watching. [00:43:46] Speaker C: It was kind of funny. And then they had the actual punters, I think were back further. And then they had to. They also got to do it, but they had like six little targets. It was. It was fun. Cool to watch them. It went to like double overtime. So. [00:44:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:02] Speaker C: The flag football is all over the place. I mean there's no. They were. What was fun was. And this is just kind of what I have enjoyed about the Pro bowl since they've introduced like the flag football is that it's just the guys going out there and just having fun. [00:44:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:21] Speaker B: They're like dudes being dudes. [00:44:23] Speaker C: They're just dudes being dudes. [00:44:24] Speaker B: Like, shout out to dudes being dudes. [00:44:26] Speaker C: Jameer Gibbs, they threw him out as a corner. He gets an interception. [00:44:30] Speaker A: Saw that. [00:44:31] Speaker C: And he's running back. And the entire AFC bench comes out on the field to try to stop him. [00:44:38] Speaker B: It's really fun. [00:44:40] Speaker C: And I was like, that's hilarious. And a flag was, of course, thrown. And you can see the refs, I think, are slightly annoyed that their game is not being taken super seriously. [00:44:52] Speaker B: Have to be. Have to be. [00:44:54] Speaker C: They just look like, come on, guys, this is like an Olympic sport. [00:44:59] Speaker A: This is televised. [00:45:00] Speaker B: They're like, you know what? I know we guarded. We had Dan skipper running routes that we were a referee for, but this is more serious. Come on. [00:45:08] Speaker A: There's one guy in Jacksonville watching this on tv. [00:45:11] Speaker C: This was something new this year that I noticed about the play calling is they were doing a lot more hook and laterals. Now, I don't know if that was because the players just were like, let's just do this. [00:45:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:24] Speaker C: But it's also extremely effective in flag football. [00:45:28] Speaker A: Oh, yes. [00:45:29] Speaker C: Because, you know, it's super easy to get them with the flag. [00:45:32] Speaker A: Right, Right. [00:45:33] Speaker C: But by like the quick out. [00:45:35] Speaker A: Right. [00:45:36] Speaker B: It's really got a hot potato. [00:45:37] Speaker C: This really effective. Which I think is actually like, they were trying it out because some of those guys are going to probably go to the Olympics to play this game. [00:45:45] Speaker A: Oh, right. [00:45:47] Speaker C: I think they were testing out some. Some series every year. [00:45:50] Speaker A: Every year people say, should we just get. Get rid of this thing? And there's a lot of discourse about that. [00:45:54] Speaker C: There is. I'm going to be an advocate for the way they've been doing it. I actively think it's fun. The players look like they're having fun. I thought it was enjoyable. [00:46:06] Speaker B: Dudes just want to have fun. There was a famous song about that. [00:46:10] Speaker A: I kind of land in the camp that I think I. I probably would be more inclined to watch if it were less athletics because we already spend the whole season watching these players do athletic things. And. And what we get on Purple Weekend is kind of just inferior version of that or like a low stakes. Like what sequential version of that. Like, it doesn't matter. [00:46:32] Speaker B: What if it was the weakest link but with NFL players. [00:46:34] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Like, if it's something that has nothing to do with the sport, it's more just like about the people watching them do personality things or they do maybe even more stuff about, like, their charity work. Like, there's not enough talk about the Walter Payton, man of the year stuff. Like, I don't. We don't learn a lot about the work that they're doing. So a little more programming this about the humans involved in the sport and getting them in other contexts would probably entertain me more because we already see him play good football. I will just see him play like football that doesn't matter. Is just not that fun. [00:47:03] Speaker C: I will say. [00:47:05] Speaker A: Yeah, thanks. [00:47:07] Speaker C: I will say, because you're starting to. [00:47:09] Speaker B: Change how you say it and you're saying the same thing. I'm catching you. I'm not letting you get away with it. Okay, this isn't happening. Okay. [00:47:18] Speaker C: To be fair, all I was going to say was that in some of those events, like the tug of war or like the sleds, you get to see some of these guys that you don't normally see, like the O line guys especially. [00:47:34] Speaker A: Right. [00:47:34] Speaker C: Do some seriously physical stuff and you just see like, oh, my gosh, these guys are tough. [00:47:41] Speaker A: It's cool. [00:47:41] Speaker C: Like the tug of war, like, just watch the big guys in the back just like buckle down and then like, it. It was like Vita Vea and Taylor Decker just like single handedly just boom, like, rammed the rope and the whole AFC just fell. And it was like, that's impressive. Last year with like Penne Sewell pushing the sled with Jason Kelsey on it, it was just like, pretty impressive. [00:48:09] Speaker A: It's like when we used to play tug of war at the barn parties and then Marshall would get in there and just crush it. [00:48:15] Speaker B: I am Vita Vea of our friend here. Thank you. That's the best compliment I've gotten in weeks. All right, thank you. [00:48:22] Speaker C: That's enough talk there, guys. Let's go to your seg. [00:48:25] Speaker B: Yeah, let's go to my segi. I haven't. I didn't know segi was a word. Thank you, Ian. [00:48:30] Speaker C: It's a new word. Put it on the thing. Segi to be segi. [00:48:38] Speaker B: Cut that up, somebody. Adam Commish, cut that up. All right, for those of you that don't know our podcast, one of my favorite compliments I've gotten from one of our listeners, pretty consistently, he'll say to me, you guys just know a lot about football. There's nothing I like. There's. I'm telling you, I'm telling you. [00:49:00] Speaker C: I feel like we don't. [00:49:02] Speaker A: I kind of feel like we don't. [00:49:04] Speaker B: Honestly, I feel like we do because we, We. We're more. Some of the things that we say are like, huh, yeah, that's true. So I'm gonna Give you. I have some super bowl trivia. I have some just NFL trivia. And I got nine questions on here. I was gonna do 10 and I fell asleep. [00:49:24] Speaker A: We're gonna be embarrassed now. I'm gonna look back. [00:49:27] Speaker B: Some of these I actually remember. This is funny. You remember. Ready for this? [00:49:31] Speaker A: Okay. [00:49:32] Speaker B: I went and looked back at our show outlines our first year ever doing the pod. Some of these questions were asked. [00:49:39] Speaker A: Really? Wow. By one of us. [00:49:43] Speaker B: By one of you guys. Oh, really? [00:49:44] Speaker A: Oh, okay. I can't wait. Okay, so all the trivia has to be from. Basically from 2000, 2004, because that's when I remember the most. [00:49:52] Speaker B: And there's some years you decided not to watch football. [00:49:55] Speaker C: All right, Jets, Mets. [00:49:57] Speaker B: For the first year, listeners, Tom Esla gave a trivia. Thank you. All right, can you guys name me all of the teams that have three word names? I'll give you one of them. You ready? Kansas City Chiefs. Give me the Buccaneers. [00:50:12] Speaker C: New York Giants. New York Giants. [00:50:14] Speaker B: Four. [00:50:15] Speaker A: San Francisco 49ers. [00:50:17] Speaker B: Go. [00:50:18] Speaker C: How many is there? [00:50:19] Speaker B: Five. [00:50:19] Speaker A: You have New England Patriots. [00:50:21] Speaker C: Two New England Patriots. [00:50:22] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, we got them all. [00:50:25] Speaker B: Eleven of them. [00:50:26] Speaker C: Eleven. [00:50:26] Speaker B: There's five left. [00:50:27] Speaker A: What? There's five. Okay. You gave them San Diego Chargers. Los Angeles Rams. Los Angeles. [00:50:35] Speaker B: San Diego is not the team anymore. [00:50:37] Speaker A: Los Angeles Chargers. Los Angeles Rams. [00:50:39] Speaker B: Okay, that's a Las Vegas Raiders. That's nine. [00:50:42] Speaker A: Why you're crushing the Green Bay Packers. [00:50:44] Speaker B: We got one more. [00:50:45] Speaker C: Wow. [00:50:46] Speaker B: It's actually funny. The video I found this on. You are waiting on the last team for them too. [00:50:52] Speaker A: Oh, is it the same team? [00:50:53] Speaker B: Yeah, as that they missed on the video. [00:50:56] Speaker A: Oh, dang. [00:50:57] Speaker B: You have one left. [00:50:58] Speaker A: I'm gonna get this. I'm so gonna get this. [00:51:00] Speaker C: I know. I've already. [00:51:01] Speaker B: I'm gonna say all the teams that you gave me and then see within that time you can get me the last one. We have the New Orleans Saints. [00:51:08] Speaker C: Oh, correct. [00:51:10] Speaker B: Good job. All right, can you name me? [00:51:14] Speaker A: Thank you. I got one. [00:51:15] Speaker B: We have 12 teams that have never made the Super Bowl. Can you give me all 12? [00:51:19] Speaker C: No. [00:51:19] Speaker A: No. There's four teams who've never made the. [00:51:21] Speaker B: Super bowl that have never. That have never won. I'm sorry. Correct. [00:51:25] Speaker A: Okay. [00:51:26] Speaker C: Are we doing. So wait, which. [00:51:27] Speaker B: Can you name me the four teams who've never made it? [00:51:30] Speaker C: Texans. [00:51:31] Speaker A: Browns. [00:51:32] Speaker C: Browns. [00:51:32] Speaker A: Lions. [00:51:32] Speaker C: Lions. No, the Jacks. Browns have been. Okay, have they? [00:51:37] Speaker B: Texans. Lions. Can you give me the other eight teams who have never won? [00:51:43] Speaker C: Minnesota. Bills. [00:51:44] Speaker A: Yeah, Bills and Vikings. That's good. [00:51:47] Speaker B: Let's see. [00:51:48] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:51:48] Speaker C: Bengals. [00:51:49] Speaker B: Bengals. [00:51:50] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:51:51] Speaker C: Good Chargers. [00:51:52] Speaker B: Chargers. [00:51:53] Speaker A: Oh, wow. Yeah. You are pretty good at this. [00:51:55] Speaker C: Raiders got one. Cardinals. [00:51:59] Speaker B: Cardinals. Correct. [00:52:01] Speaker C: They've been. But I was like, they got. [00:52:03] Speaker B: We have two left. [00:52:06] Speaker A: See, this is tough. This is tough. [00:52:10] Speaker B: So far we have Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, Cleveland. [00:52:14] Speaker C: Panthers. [00:52:15] Speaker B: Panthers. I'm sorry, we have two more after that. [00:52:18] Speaker C: Okay, so we got Panthers. I was like, I don't remember the Panthers. [00:52:21] Speaker B: Yeah, Panthers, Cincy, Cardinals, Bills. [00:52:25] Speaker C: Jets have one. Don't. [00:52:26] Speaker B: Vikings. Chargers. Yeah, they're the farthest. They're the longest gap between wins, which was in 1969. [00:52:34] Speaker C: That's a big one. Trying to think. Seattle's got. [00:52:39] Speaker A: Right. [00:52:41] Speaker B: Definitely Atlanta. [00:52:43] Speaker C: Atlanta. Oh, gosh. 23 and 7. [00:52:46] Speaker B: And the Titans. [00:52:48] Speaker C: Dang. Oh, the greatest show on turf. [00:52:50] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:52:51] Speaker B: And by an inch they don't have a Super bowl win. [00:52:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:54] Speaker C: More. I just rewatched that play. I just rewatched because that super bowl was the first Super Bowl I actively. [00:53:02] Speaker A: Vaughn curse. [00:53:03] Speaker C: Was that watching? [00:53:04] Speaker B: Yeah, correct. [00:53:05] Speaker A: Man. Thank you. [00:53:06] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:53:07] Speaker A: My memory still works for something. [00:53:09] Speaker C: I remember looking at that, the. The old like reels and it just looked like they were playing. I mean, because they were on Astroturf, I think at that point. [00:53:18] Speaker A: Right. [00:53:19] Speaker C: It just looks like carpet. I was like, man. And we complain about turf now. That looked awful to play on. [00:53:25] Speaker B: My favorite thing to bet on is betting on the coin toss. Each year I'm actually 40 betting the coin toss. As a gambler, four years of gambling, I have bet on the coin toss and have hit all four times. [00:53:39] Speaker A: Have you made the same bet? [00:53:41] Speaker C: Knock on wood. [00:53:41] Speaker B: No, I haven't really switched it up. So with that being said, what do you think has gotten more. It's currently 30 to 28 in the 58 Super Bowls. What do you think has more heads or tails? [00:53:54] Speaker A: I'm going tails. [00:53:55] Speaker C: I'll go ahead. [00:53:56] Speaker B: Tails prevails 30 to 28. Tales. How many times do you think a team out of 58, they've won the coin toss and won the game? [00:54:05] Speaker C: O. [00:54:06] Speaker B: Interesting. If you listen to the podcast in season one, you already knew this answer. [00:54:12] Speaker C: All of them. None of them. [00:54:16] Speaker B: There was actually an eight year streak of teams until the Chiefs won two championships. They are the most recent two championships for them. Every team that won the coin toss lost the game for about nine years. Eight years in a row. [00:54:30] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:54:31] Speaker B: But right now they have only 27 out of the 58. You win the coin toss, you win the game. [00:54:36] Speaker C: Wow. [00:54:37] Speaker B: So not a lot of statistical data on that. How about. [00:54:39] Speaker C: I would like to know. There was like a streak there going on with if they wore their away jerseys, that team typically won. There was like a higher percentage going on there. I'd be curious to know. [00:54:53] Speaker A: So much goofiness. [00:54:54] Speaker C: I know, but it's like this like, weird, like thing, but we don't have to look at it. [00:55:00] Speaker B: Good. Good specification. Weird thing how. What team has played in four Super Bowls but never had a lead? [00:55:11] Speaker C: Never had a lead. [00:55:12] Speaker B: This is a good trivia. This. This you'll take to the cooler tomorrow. Your water cooler tomorrow. [00:55:17] Speaker A: They've had. They played. [00:55:18] Speaker B: That's a good guess. [00:55:20] Speaker C: Never had the lead. So that means they lost if they never had the lead. Right. [00:55:29] Speaker B: So it was one of those teams. One of those 13, 12 teams. Correct. The Vikings. The Vikings have never led and has been in four Super Bowls. Okay, how about. How much do you think it cost in 1967 to go to the Super Bowl Bowl? [00:55:45] Speaker C: 1967. 50 bucks. [00:55:48] Speaker A: 200 bucks. [00:55:49] Speaker B: 12. Oh, okay, 12. You know, we talk about. The super bowl has been a real. We've been spoiled with really good games, really close games. How many do you think were decided by one point? [00:56:02] Speaker C: There's 58 so far. [00:56:05] Speaker B: One point. [00:56:06] Speaker C: One point. [00:56:06] Speaker B: Think of how many games we have that are like 17, 16, 21, 20. [00:56:11] Speaker C: I'd say I'm going 13. Okay, that's too close. [00:56:16] Speaker B: Only one. [00:56:17] Speaker C: Only one game. [00:56:19] Speaker B: Super Bowl 25. Giants and Bills, 20 to 19. My final question. [00:56:23] Speaker C: That's by one. That's by one point. Specifically, one point. [00:56:27] Speaker B: One like one score. One point. [00:56:30] Speaker C: Wow. [00:56:31] Speaker B: How about. I really spent a lot of time trying to figure out because my other bet that will be happening. I will be cashing it out. It's going to happen. The doink. Every year I bet the doink it's plus 550 right now. Okay, 15 bucks gets me a hundred. I'm betting on it. It will happen. I tried to look up how many times a doink happened and then I got down the rabbit hole of doing the clown from wrestling and it was just a fun time. And then I fell asleep. That's the last thing I have on my computer looking up just a loud banging from Kyle on my window. But I have one last question. It's a fun one. How. How heavy is the Lombardi Trophy? [00:57:13] Speaker C: Well, Tom Brady hoisted it across and then it was caught relatively easy. So it can't be like crazy heavy right there. [00:57:21] Speaker B: Also football players. And he did throw it to a polar bear. [00:57:24] Speaker A: So if you compare it to the weight of a baby, like if he was tossing. [00:57:28] Speaker B: Let's not compare it to a Baby. Because I don't want you to talk about throwing a baby between. [00:57:32] Speaker C: Is the ball solid? [00:57:35] Speaker B: I can't answer that. I just need you to give me pounds. I didn't inspect this in my nine questions. [00:57:40] Speaker C: £100. [00:57:41] Speaker B: 100. No, keep your answer. I don't want to hear anymore. [00:57:48] Speaker C: Kyle. [00:57:49] Speaker B: 100 pound, baby. [00:57:50] Speaker A: I'm gonna take the under. [00:57:51] Speaker B: You're right. It is £7. You. [00:57:57] Speaker C: I don't know why I said a hundred pounds. That's. That's about a third of my weight. That's such a stupid answer. That's such a stupid. I said a hundred and immediately regretted. [00:58:15] Speaker A: So you're £300. [00:58:17] Speaker B: That's. [00:58:17] Speaker C: You're right. That's not even a third. I don't. I don't. [00:58:22] Speaker A: Are you even a hundred pounds? [00:58:23] Speaker C: I am 100. [00:58:25] Speaker B: My left calf is a hundred pounds. Okay, you guys are. For those of you, I hope that you're laughing as hard as. Because just say a hundred pounds and Tom Brady just threw it with ease and grog caught it with like a hand and a half. [00:58:41] Speaker C: I wasn't thinking. I'm tired. But we're recording. [00:58:44] Speaker B: It's 10 o'clock for the video audience that's listening to us. All right, guys. You gave. [00:58:50] Speaker C: I heard. [00:58:50] Speaker B: I gave you my expertise when it came to what you. What the bets are that you should be betting on. Okay, tails. [00:59:00] Speaker C: You're taking tails. [00:59:01] Speaker B: Tails. Okay, you've been waiting 58 minutes. 59 minutes into the pod. Tails prevails this year. Okay, We've root. Tails. [00:59:09] Speaker A: Okay. [00:59:10] Speaker C: Okay, got it. [00:59:11] Speaker B: Who do you guys got in the big game? [00:59:12] Speaker C: This is it, guys. [00:59:14] Speaker B: No, I'm for real. Like, are you like mini corn dogs or like smokey links? [00:59:20] Speaker A: I'm all about that buffalo chicken. If I can get it in any vessel that it comes in. But I'd be more smoky. Links. [00:59:27] Speaker C: I would probably take like little. I'm smoking links. I'm assuming that's the one with like a little barbecue. [00:59:32] Speaker A: You know, yesterday was like the 6th. I saw my memories calendar 6 years since we did the. I was doing super bowl at your old apartment. Remember we did that? [00:59:40] Speaker C: Oh, my gosh. [00:59:40] Speaker A: Six years ago. [00:59:41] Speaker B: I sat in that corner. Was so sweaty because I didn't want to get up to leave my seat. I was so stubborn. I had a really good seat in his house. [00:59:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I've been the one at the Oaks probably both times. [00:59:52] Speaker B: It was the one that's behind old Fel Posh. [00:59:54] Speaker C: I had done it. Fel Posh. That's the name I haven't heard because. [00:59:58] Speaker A: You hosted super bowl parties at the. Whatever. The new. The new. [01:00:02] Speaker C: Yeah, the new one. It used to be. I would. Because I loved watching the Super Bowl. I didn't really. I don't. I always loved. [01:00:10] Speaker B: Okay. [01:00:11] Speaker C: But it was a long string of time there where I just, you know, I didn't worry about it, who was going to be in it, because I knew it wasn't going to be the Lions. [01:00:19] Speaker B: You're right. [01:00:20] Speaker C: So I would just kind of watch it. And I loved watching it. So I would host a Super bowl party for a good stretch of time. [01:00:26] Speaker B: I'm excited to come over to watch it again this year. [01:00:29] Speaker C: Yeah, times change. [01:00:32] Speaker B: Who do you guys got? [01:00:33] Speaker A: Six years. [01:00:33] Speaker B: Let's hear it. [01:00:34] Speaker A: Oh, six years ago was Patriots. Rams. Interesting. [01:00:38] Speaker C: That was Jared Goff. [01:00:39] Speaker A: Yeah, that was Jared Goff. So we watched that at your house, Right? All right. [01:00:44] Speaker C: Make a pick. Why are you picking them? [01:00:45] Speaker A: I'm picking the Chiefs. Duh. [01:00:47] Speaker C: Why are you picking them? Just because. [01:00:49] Speaker A: Because I'm not gonna be the idiot who picks against them. [01:00:52] Speaker B: Did you guys hear that Pat Riley made a deal with the NFL because he owns the right to three beat? That if the Chiefs win, they can use the word three Pete? No. He has a copyright on the word three beat. [01:01:04] Speaker C: Wow. [01:01:05] Speaker A: Wow. [01:01:06] Speaker B: He owned it when the Lakers won back in the day. [01:01:08] Speaker C: Well, what about Eli Manning? He's got a three Pete now with the NFC Pro Bowl. [01:01:12] Speaker B: H. I'll check on the T shirts and get back to you on that. How about you, Ian? Who do you got? [01:01:19] Speaker C: This. This. [01:01:20] Speaker B: I see your answer and I want to hear you say it out loud. [01:01:23] Speaker C: This is actually a really hard one to pick because on paper, the Eagles look like the better team to me. On paper, they have the better defense, and I think they have the better offense. It doesn't matter because. [01:01:41] Speaker B: Let's let him talk for a second. [01:01:43] Speaker C: And I. I do. I do have this fear that the Chiefs are just going to chief all over them. And just like you're afraid of this. I'm not afraid of it. Let me be clear. When I'm watching this game, I will be. To be fair. This isn't even a to be fair. This is a very. Like, to be clear here, I will be rooting for the Chiefs. [01:02:06] Speaker A: Oh, really? [01:02:07] Speaker C: I will be. [01:02:08] Speaker B: Don't do the Kyle where you're rooting. But also, I'm picking. [01:02:12] Speaker C: I want to root for the Chiefs specifically, because we do not get to see. I think it sometimes gets underappreciated watching a historical sporting event occur in your lifetime. [01:02:29] Speaker A: Yeah, sure. [01:02:30] Speaker C: And so I think being able to watch Patrick Mahomes and watch what this Chief's dynasty is doing. [01:02:37] Speaker A: Right. [01:02:38] Speaker C: I think is actually something I am trying to appreciate. [01:02:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:41] Speaker C: Because it's like this is the new Patriots. [01:02:44] Speaker A: Right. [01:02:45] Speaker C: This is like the kids that are in middle school and elementary school and high school, like, this is their Patriots. And so I am just appreciating what we're watching because we're just. It's really hard to do what these teams have done. It's very hard. And I find it very. Just impressive when a team can do something impressive like win the super bowl three years in a row. [01:03:07] Speaker B: So you're okay with seeing the greatness? I am because I hated it when it was Tom Brady and I like it. While it's Mahomes, I am a hypocrite. I will be picking the Chiefs. I got the Chiefs. I think I heard a phrase and I'm standing by it. You don't call plays, you call players. [01:03:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:03:27] Speaker B: And I'm calling my homes. [01:03:28] Speaker C: And I, I think this is that same logic. I think this is why I'm taking the Eagles though, is because I think just they're a better built team. That defense, man, that defense is good. And I think Saquon's going to break free eventually. I think he's. I think Spags. We've talked about Spags enough in this pod, but today specifically we mentioned him, we mentioned his name. That's all you get. He's clearly gonna dial up some plays to slow him down. But the Eagles have the best O line in the league, so. So they're going to be able to get him to go going and once. [01:04:07] Speaker B: He get going, get going. [01:04:09] Speaker C: Once Saquon opens it up on the ground, they can kind of let it air out to. To Brown and Smith and I think Jalen's can run. [01:04:19] Speaker B: One thing we're going to be able. [01:04:20] Speaker C: I think they can do it. [01:04:21] Speaker B: One thing we need to note for Spags is that when they lost to the Bills earlier this year, they sent four people on a rush against Josh Allen to his. To Josh Allen's left. They watched that film on that play. They lost the game. Josh Allen scrambled for 27 yards for a touchdown to seal the win. Spags watched it set the same exact defense up in their game winning last throw that he had where they hit him and Dalton Kincaid dropped the pass. They instead of rushing to the left, threw a blitz into the right corner, blitz, vintage Spags. And had Josh Allen off his balance, forced him backwards, throwing off his back foot, and they ended up losing the game on what would have been a miraculous catch if he would have caught it. That's how Spags run. Spags is playing chess while you guys play checkers. So it's very, very cool to see the breakdown of that, and that's why I got a good feeling that they're gonna. They just do stuff that you don't think about. They're playing four games ahead, four plays ahead. [01:05:31] Speaker C: And this is why this game is actually, I think, really hard to pick is because both these are for people who aren't aware the Eagles are one. [01:05:42] Speaker B: Like, if they're an hour and five into this pod, they know the Eagles are good. We're. We can agree. [01:05:48] Speaker C: So what I want to say is these two defenses are the top five. Like, legitimately. You look them up. Eagles are number two. [01:05:56] Speaker A: What do we list say, by defenses? [01:05:57] Speaker C: Eagles are number two. Chiefs are number four. These are right up there. The offensive side is very different, though. [01:06:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I want to get. Let's get to that next. Next week when we break down the game. I want to hear a little bit of that, Ian, if that's good with you, because I think we're going to have a diaper dandy. And I'm hoping that our listeners enjoy the halftime show as much as I will. How about you guys? You ready for the halftime show? [01:06:23] Speaker A: Oh, Kendrick. Yeah, Kendrick. [01:06:25] Speaker B: Kendrick. [01:06:25] Speaker C: I am. [01:06:27] Speaker B: Whatever. [01:06:27] Speaker A: Yeah, we gonna be all right. [01:06:29] Speaker B: Oh, I don't know. [01:06:32] Speaker C: I'm not a big Kendrick Lamar fan. Not like his music's bad. [01:06:36] Speaker B: I just. [01:06:36] Speaker C: I don't. I actively just don't. [01:06:38] Speaker B: You're just not familiar with this catalog? [01:06:39] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I knew the. It's not like. Or what is it? Not like us. I heard that they. [01:06:46] Speaker A: Not like us. [01:06:47] Speaker C: I. I heard the whole beef. [01:06:49] Speaker A: Okay. [01:06:49] Speaker C: I heard the whole beef. I know he won a Grammy for that song. Good for him. [01:06:53] Speaker B: Swept the Grammys. Listen, a couple nights ago. [01:06:56] Speaker C: Well, he didn't win album of the year, so I don't know if you call that a sweep. [01:06:59] Speaker A: Right. [01:07:00] Speaker B: Okay. [01:07:00] Speaker C: Beyonce won album on a year with her country album. [01:07:04] Speaker B: She won country album of the year? Yeah. [01:07:06] Speaker C: No, she won album of the year. [01:07:07] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [01:07:09] Speaker A: All right. She's the queen. That's fine. [01:07:11] Speaker B: First. [01:07:11] Speaker C: That's her first ever album of the year win. [01:07:14] Speaker A: Oh, no kidding? [01:07:15] Speaker C: I didn't know that. [01:07:17] Speaker B: Queen Beehive. [01:07:18] Speaker C: Yeah, she's got a lot of, like, Grammys, but that was, like, her, I guess, her first album. [01:07:22] Speaker B: Potentially one of the best performances of the Super Bowl. [01:07:26] Speaker C: Beyonce Right. [01:07:27] Speaker B: Beyonce. [01:07:29] Speaker A: I don't know. It's the one she. They did with. She did with Coldplay, remember? [01:07:33] Speaker C: So was she even her own headliner there then? [01:07:37] Speaker A: It was because. [01:07:38] Speaker C: But Coldplay was the headliner for that. [01:07:41] Speaker B: I think it was a duel. [01:07:43] Speaker C: Was it a duet? [01:07:44] Speaker B: And I think Bruno Mars was in that too. [01:07:46] Speaker C: Bruno Mars was his own. But he also had his own. [01:07:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:50] Speaker C: He's actually one of the few that have been in multiple Super Bowls. [01:07:54] Speaker B: It's a weird one. I'm excited because I'm going to get to see my celebrity crush, Sza. [01:07:59] Speaker C: I don't even know who that is. [01:08:00] Speaker B: Never heard Sza. I'm just telling you. Give her a look later. [01:08:05] Speaker A: I'm familiar with some. [01:08:06] Speaker B: She is. [01:08:07] Speaker A: That's. [01:08:07] Speaker B: I'm familiar with a lot of her game. One word thickness. She is so beautiful. All right, if you're an hour and eight minutes into this right now, that's definitely not everybody. Hold on. Let me read his name so people can Google this. His name is Alvaro Sizza Vieira. He Google and it's S. I. Z A is what Ian Googled there. So it's S Z A. You're amazing, Ian. It's not that old man that looks like the penguin from With Colin Farrell. That's not him. Anything else for the guys? [01:08:43] Speaker C: No, that. [01:09:00] Speaker B: Thanks for listening to the pod. We appreciate you, especially if you were one of the few people that was actually listening and kept. You're here right now after hearing me go. You're one of my favorite people. Okay. You. I'm talking to you. Turn that music up a little bit. Bit. Okay, I'm going to turn it up for you. Just do it with me. Come on. We're almost there. Stay with me. We're almost there. Come on. [01:09:39] Speaker C: You can't unmute me. [01:09:45] Speaker B: The.