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[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome to the Point after show with. [00:00:03] Speaker B: Kyle Mauer, Marshall heslaw, and Ian DeWitt. This is the show where the guys attempt to pick the winners of the weekly NFL games along with some healthy debate about current topics. [00:00:13] Speaker C: Let's go. What's up, dudes? [00:00:16] Speaker A: Commission, guys, commission. I'm ready for a remix. [00:00:20] Speaker D: We could do it. It's been a few seasons. [00:00:21] Speaker C: I'm ready for it. [00:00:22] Speaker D: I'm just thinking how much I love hearing my good friend Adam's voice to start every episode. [00:00:27] Speaker C: It's been. It's been a hot minute. [00:00:29] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:00:30] Speaker C: I mean, this is like official week one, guys. [00:00:33] Speaker A: This is our fourth year of doing the pod. Is it? [00:00:36] Speaker C: I thought it was five. [00:00:38] Speaker A: Yeah, five. I'm sorry. [00:00:39] Speaker D: Somebody fact check us. [00:00:41] Speaker A: It's five. [00:00:42] Speaker D: Do we have any day one listeners? Listen. Tuning in right now. You should get a T shirt or something or come into the studio. [00:00:48] Speaker A: The one scratch off poster. [00:00:50] Speaker C: O. Yeah. [00:00:52] Speaker D: I need to make a football related one that. Wow. [00:00:54] Speaker A: How is that not happen? [00:00:55] Speaker C: How would that work? Would it be like scratch off every. [00:00:58] Speaker A: Time you're depressed or every time the team has beat the Lions? Every team. [00:01:03] Speaker D: Bingo style? Like every time something happens? Could be, I guess. [00:01:07] Speaker A: No, that'd be. [00:01:08] Speaker D: I don't know about that. They do. Some of them do exist. Like to visit. [00:01:12] Speaker A: You visited? [00:01:12] Speaker D: Yes, to visit every state and you scratch off the stadium. [00:01:14] Speaker C: That's kind of cool. That is like. [00:01:16] Speaker D: I dig that. Give you a bucket list. You gotta have a challenging bucket list. [00:01:20] Speaker C: High up on my. [00:01:21] Speaker D: We've probably talked about bucket lists before in our opening segment. Have you? [00:01:24] Speaker C: I feel like we've hit that. [00:01:26] Speaker A: I feel like our question of the day this week because I got a few. [00:01:29] Speaker D: I got. [00:01:29] Speaker A: I. I went through a couple. Hit us. All right. Would you rather eat kneecap soup with Dan Campbell or have a staring contest with Mike Tomlin? For those of you that don't know, Mike Tomlin doesn't blink. [00:01:44] Speaker D: That's right. [00:01:45] Speaker C: I don't think in the history of his birth to now has he blinked. [00:01:49] Speaker A: Yep. And Dan Campbell wants to eat kneecaps. He said that in his open press conference. [00:01:53] Speaker D: I would eat anything with Dan Cannibal. Anything just to be in the room with. With that. [00:01:58] Speaker C: Do we get to choose? Now here's the thing. I would take the kneecap soup because specifically it doesn't say what kind of kneecaps we could be having. Like lamb. Lamb kneecaps. [00:02:07] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:02:08] Speaker C: We can. [00:02:09] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:02:09] Speaker A: All right. [00:02:10] Speaker C: Would you rather some Applebees? [00:02:12] Speaker D: Right. [00:02:12] Speaker C: These caps. [00:02:13] Speaker A: How about. Would you rather third wheel? [00:02:18] Speaker D: It's like, you watch the commercials. [00:02:20] Speaker A: That's about all the best parts. Might be his job next year. All right, would you rather third wheel Bill Belichick's date with Jordan or listen to Liam Cohen say duvall. Oh, you missed it for two straight hours. [00:02:38] Speaker C: If you're gonna do that, you gotta be Duvall. [00:02:41] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that's a good enunciation. What would you rather have? [00:02:44] Speaker C: I would do the Duvall for sure. [00:02:46] Speaker D: Oh, really? [00:02:46] Speaker A: You could listen to anything for two hours straight. [00:02:48] Speaker C: I watched the video for two hours straight. His face is the best part. His face is just like. We're not a visual medium. [00:03:00] Speaker A: He hit the game ball. They actually in the whole locker room is going Duvall. [00:03:06] Speaker C: The guy actually did quite well. [00:03:09] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:03:11] Speaker A: Offensive. [00:03:13] Speaker C: We can kind of come back to this. I actually kind of want to know how many of the new coaches this year actually performed quite well. [00:03:21] Speaker A: Essentially the opposite of rookie quarterbacks. [00:03:24] Speaker C: Go. [00:03:25] Speaker D: Oh, you could say that. [00:03:26] Speaker A: Right? [00:03:26] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:03:26] Speaker A: Yeah, that's right. All right. More likely to happen. Mike McDaniels is fired before week five. Or Jaden Daniels's mom finally lets Jane Daniels go on a date with somebody not around her. [00:03:38] Speaker D: Oh, gosh. [00:03:39] Speaker A: Have you seen it? Yeah, it's the thing. She's always around him. [00:03:42] Speaker D: You guys are so plugged in. [00:03:43] Speaker A: I'm glued. [00:03:44] Speaker D: I can't handle this. [00:03:45] Speaker C: I didn't know that. So don't say I'm plugged in. I didn't even know that that was a thing. [00:03:50] Speaker A: I am glued. Okay. [00:03:52] Speaker D: You're. You're setting. You're putting down questions to set yourself up. [00:03:59] Speaker A: It's the fifth season of this. Just realizing that. Come on now. Okay. [00:04:05] Speaker D: That's good. I respect it, actually. [00:04:07] Speaker A: Favorite pasta dish. [00:04:09] Speaker D: Ravioli. [00:04:11] Speaker C: Wait, we didn't. [00:04:13] Speaker D: I want gnocchi anywhere near. Yeah. [00:04:17] Speaker C: Are you gnocchi? [00:04:18] Speaker D: Yeah. I'm going. [00:04:19] Speaker C: Okay. [00:04:19] Speaker A: Annie, however, the. [00:04:23] Speaker D: It's really good. Yeah. Some pesto. [00:04:25] Speaker C: You've been hit by a smooth tomato sauce. [00:04:31] Speaker A: Ian, what's yours? [00:04:33] Speaker C: Favorite pasta dish? Pasta is not like one of my go to's. [00:04:39] Speaker D: It is. It isn't. And actually, I went last year to a fancy French restaurant. Probably the most expensive meal that I've ever had. [00:04:46] Speaker A: Right. [00:04:47] Speaker D: I didn't know what was order. It was all these courses. And my wife and I had this romantic date. It's beautiful. And I was very disappointed to discover at the end that the entree turned out to be just pasta. It was some kind of pasta with beef on it. And I was so bummed because it was like an anti climax. And I was looking forward to something. Some strong finish after a lot of good hors d'. [00:05:06] Speaker A: Oeuvres. [00:05:08] Speaker C: If I had to pick, I'd say. [00:05:09] Speaker A: And you have to. [00:05:11] Speaker C: Alfredo is pretty solid. [00:05:13] Speaker A: Or chicken or shrimp? [00:05:17] Speaker C: I probably would just not do either. I'm not really big on shrimp or chicken and pasta. It's like, I like them. I just don't really like it in pasta. But I would do chicken if I had to choose one. [00:05:30] Speaker D: I've got a lot of kids, man. I eat excessive amounts of pasta. Like, I don't need more pasta. [00:05:34] Speaker A: I'm a big lasagna. [00:05:35] Speaker C: Carbonara or carbonara? [00:05:38] Speaker A: Carbonara. [00:05:39] Speaker C: That's pretty good, too. [00:05:40] Speaker A: That's pretty good. All right, how about worse beverage to have dumped on you. If you won the super bowl beverage. [00:05:48] Speaker D: What would be the worst? Milk, maybe? [00:05:51] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm thinking something that's like strawberry smell. Either bad after a hot minute of being on you. [00:05:58] Speaker D: Like, so beer like a Bloody Mary. [00:06:02] Speaker A: Beer smells bad. [00:06:04] Speaker C: No, I think actually after, like, you get like a Miller, like, keg dumped. [00:06:08] Speaker D: On you, you get all of them. [00:06:10] Speaker A: What if we're warm? [00:06:11] Speaker D: I mean, spoiled milk is gonna. Is gonna be. [00:06:13] Speaker C: I mean. Yes. [00:06:14] Speaker D: Nasty. [00:06:14] Speaker A: What if in the future. What about gravy? How about gravy? [00:06:17] Speaker C: Is it boiling hot when it gets dumped on you? What is this? [00:06:23] Speaker A: Sausage and gravy would be pretty good. [00:06:25] Speaker C: Sure. [00:06:27] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. That would be terrible. [00:06:30] Speaker C: Beverage. But gravy's not a beverage. You don't drink on the Moravian. [00:06:36] Speaker D: Have you ever seen that viral big bowl of gravy video on YouTube? I don't know. You guys are younger. [00:06:40] Speaker A: The flaky buttery biscuits. [00:06:42] Speaker D: No, there was just like a YouTube video of this big guy. [00:06:44] Speaker C: What if it was chocolate milk and. [00:06:46] Speaker A: You could do the. [00:06:47] Speaker C: You could do the chocolate rain. Some stay dry while others feel the pain. Chocolate rain. [00:06:56] Speaker A: I love it. [00:06:57] Speaker D: Gosh, how about I'm not getting any references today. I miss everything is all. [00:07:03] Speaker A: Isn't it Cherry chocolate rain. [00:07:06] Speaker C: No, it's chocolate rain. [00:07:08] Speaker A: We'll look it up. [00:07:09] Speaker C: Look it up. YouTube. It's a classic. [00:07:11] Speaker D: Like, I thought it was purple this whole time before. [00:07:14] Speaker C: Well, there's your. [00:07:18] Speaker D: Gosh. [00:07:19] Speaker C: Can't stand you. [00:07:20] Speaker A: Best chocolate rain. [00:07:22] Speaker C: Best super bowl halftime. [00:07:23] Speaker A: Yeah, we've been. [00:07:24] Speaker C: We've established. I know. I just wanted to restate that. [00:07:27] Speaker A: Cherry chocolate rain. Confirmed best. [00:07:29] Speaker C: But he doesn't say cherry chocolate rain. He says chocolate rain. I'm. But I believe you on the name of the song. I'm not saying you're wrong. [00:07:38] Speaker A: Yeah, you're right. And the last thing you guys Each get two foods to eat while watching football. [00:07:45] Speaker C: Pause on that question. Eliminate it. We're not doing it. [00:07:49] Speaker D: Why? [00:07:50] Speaker C: We're not doing it. [00:07:51] Speaker D: Not doing this question. [00:07:51] Speaker C: No. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Trust him. Trust the process. [00:07:53] Speaker C: Don't do it. [00:07:54] Speaker A: Listeners, this is the part where you give your answer in your head and say, I think this is going to come into play later today. [00:08:01] Speaker C: Maybe don't answer it. [00:08:02] Speaker A: We're only eight minutes in, guys. Let's get rocking and rolling. Let's hear from some of our listeners before we get into the biggest news because some of our listeners brought some really good points and we're going to start off with the one, the only, the Commish. Adam Silver writes in via audio. [00:08:22] Speaker B: This is Adam Silver, AKA the Commish. And this is the Commish Report. And we are back. A few observations about the game. Which game? Niners, of course. First and foremost, Brock did decently with the situation that he was given. Kittle Jennings out and he had to work with whatever, what was left. Gotta clean up those wild throws though. Yes. And a win is a win regardless. Even if Lady Luck was on our side on that last drive. Secondary needs to tighten up a bit, but I have no doubt that Saleh can hide our weaknesses. Shanahan needs to incorporate Robertson more in the backfield. CMC is a dog, yes, but he depends too much on him, which may lead to injuries at some point. All right, Moody. Seriously dead ass. Shaking my head here. I'm not one to wish someone gets fired, but how long is the this experiment going to last? This guy could screw up a two car parade. Ricky Purcell is getting good separation. I mean it was impressive. I was impressed. And lastly, Fred Warner is that guy. This was the commission report. Go Niners. [00:09:29] Speaker C: Gosh, I missed that, man. [00:09:31] Speaker A: Adam Silver saying dead ass. [00:09:33] Speaker D: Wow. [00:09:34] Speaker A: That's for you. That's for you. If he knows what aura farming is, he's really a hipster. But saying dead ass is. That's impressive, Sam. Fran was a little disappointing to me. [00:09:46] Speaker D: Yep. [00:09:49] Speaker A: I thought moody when one of the first three questions going into the presser is what did you think of your kicker missing two kicks? Like really? First thing that Shanahan gets asked and it's the next thing that Bosa gets asked at the press conference. [00:10:08] Speaker D: Oh my gosh. [00:10:09] Speaker C: Oh God. [00:10:11] Speaker A: He struggled last year too. [00:10:12] Speaker C: He did down this stretch. [00:10:13] Speaker A: Pretty sure he was like a fourth or fifth round pick. [00:10:16] Speaker D: Yeah, that was part of. That's part of the problem is he was drafted unusually high. [00:10:21] Speaker C: Yeah, that's. [00:10:23] Speaker D: I don't know. [00:10:24] Speaker A: Tyler Loop played Pretty well last day yesterday from a fantasy team. [00:10:28] Speaker C: Kickers are, you know, like, you hate that games come down to kickers, but, like, if you have a bad kicker, you know, pain, you feel the pain. Right. So they got to figure that out. [00:10:44] Speaker A: They have inflicted the pain. [00:10:46] Speaker C: This true. [00:10:46] Speaker A: I. I think of the Tucker kick against the Lions. It's the most painful kick. [00:10:50] Speaker C: There's two games. That game was very painful. That kick was incredible. But then he had a. The couple years before that, like, they. The Ravens beat the Lions on only field goals. [00:11:03] Speaker A: Wow. [00:11:04] Speaker C: Only field goals. It was crazy. So they. You need a good one. I mean, look at Buffalo last night. They don't have a good kicker. Prater, who literally, by the way, was like, on a couch, like a couple weeks before that game. Like, that's crazy. [00:11:22] Speaker D: They're always on a couch. [00:11:23] Speaker C: They're always on a couch. [00:11:24] Speaker D: If they're not signed, they're on a couch. [00:11:27] Speaker C: Potatoes, man. [00:11:28] Speaker A: One of our listeners, that's a good question to kind of go into. Justin Matson writes in. And by the way, commission. Thank you. I'm not skimming over your question. It's going to relate a little bit to Justin Manson, who writes in. You've got me in a little bit of an emo mood. And guys, I waited until we were in this room to show you. Look at what Puka Nakua looked like yesterday in his helmet. Says, tonight will be the night that I will fall for you. Over again with the hair flipping. Over again. So Justin writes in, I need an emo song that will summarize the season for a few teams. So I'm going to hit you with a couple that I prepared. Panic at the Frisco. That's a band specifically for. [00:12:13] Speaker D: Right. [00:12:13] Speaker A: Jake Moody. Okay. He just owns the entire band. [00:12:17] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:12:19] Speaker A: This could be problematic. I'm going to go with it anyways. My chemical bromance with Josh Allen. [00:12:24] Speaker D: Oh, I see what you're doing here. [00:12:27] Speaker A: Welcome to the great White quarterback parade. [00:12:32] Speaker C: What? [00:12:33] Speaker A: Okay, that's. I just. I don't know. [00:12:35] Speaker D: Okay. [00:12:36] Speaker A: I'm all for it right now. Josh Allen. Quite the game yesterday. [00:12:40] Speaker D: Indeed. [00:12:40] Speaker A: But I had to relate that to Panic at the Frisco. I just thought it was my. That was my one good one. Do you guys. Are you emo? [00:12:48] Speaker C: I wouldn't really qualify myself as an emo music fan. [00:12:51] Speaker A: Like, when you hear emo music. What do you think? [00:12:55] Speaker C: I mean, I. They're. Whatever. [00:12:56] Speaker A: This is what our listeners are here for. [00:12:58] Speaker C: Well, I love it. I love it. [00:13:00] Speaker D: I was. I was really big into it. [00:13:01] Speaker C: Well, I'm trying to figure out, like, what qualifies as emo compared to, like, punk rock. Right. Because I. I kind of identify them a little differently, you know? Like, are we talking? [00:13:14] Speaker D: No, they're totally. They're totally, like, old Blink 182. [00:13:18] Speaker C: Old Blink 182? [00:13:20] Speaker D: No. [00:13:20] Speaker C: Versus new Blink 182. [00:13:22] Speaker A: Definitely not new. Hit me with. Okay, so blink is your answer for, like, what you feel like emo is? [00:13:28] Speaker C: No, I don't think they're emo. [00:13:30] Speaker A: Right. [00:13:31] Speaker C: I don't know. I don't know if I have an emo band off the top of my head. [00:13:36] Speaker D: My Chemical Romance is, like, classically one of the more like, pop, mainstream. What, like, popular? [00:13:41] Speaker C: Fallout Boy, you could call it. [00:13:44] Speaker D: I would think of, like, Dashboard Confessional as, like, quintessential, like, moody, angsty, like a loner car. [00:13:50] Speaker C: This is music I didn't listen to. [00:13:52] Speaker D: I listened to the heck of a lot of that stuff. [00:13:53] Speaker C: You look like you did. What? [00:13:56] Speaker D: How am I supposed to take that? [00:13:58] Speaker C: Like, if you grew out your hair a little longer. [00:14:02] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:14:02] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:14:03] Speaker A: Really? [00:14:04] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. For sure. Okay, now I've talked myself into it. I was just making fun of you to make fun of you for a second, but now I'm, like, looking at you more. I'm staring at your eyes, and I'm like, yeah, you're wearing the packers hat. Like, you're hang out of this bad game and you're already done with the team and, wow, like, waiting for this to come up. Yeah. I'm the one wearing all black over here, so. [00:14:27] Speaker A: Stuff last week. [00:14:28] Speaker D: Right? I love that music, actually. I think it gets a bad rap. It's got such a reputation for just, like, the. The fans and the dorky fashion. [00:14:36] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. It's a. It's a pseudo culture, I think. [00:14:39] Speaker D: Yeah, it is. But I always loved the jams back in the day. But I was also very isolated, so I just like the music for the music. I was never part of a culture. Like, I lived on a farm with just my brothers and sisters. And no, I didn't go to school. [00:14:49] Speaker A: So. Do you flop your hair over? [00:14:51] Speaker D: It's not like I knew. I didn't, like, know any of those kids who were, like. Who were like that. I was just like, don't Want to Milk the Cow, Hands down, is such a great song. But the emo MCR does have a. A song called I'm not okay. And that could. That could be. That could be the song with the Giants. And Dashboard actually has a deep cut called I Light my own fires now and I'm gonna give that to Daniel Jones. That's gonna be his. And another dashboard song, matters of blood and connection. That might ring true for the Cowboys, I think, because it's a little bit of the. The family ties going on there with the head coach and the management is. [00:15:28] Speaker A: Very proud of family business. [00:15:29] Speaker D: Yeah, you gotta go with the deep cuts. [00:15:31] Speaker A: Can I give you a Daniel Jones station? Daniel Jones is the first quarterback to record two rushing touchdowns, a passing touchdown, and zero interceptions in his first start with a new team since Daniel Jones, when he did it for The Giants in 2019. [00:15:47] Speaker C: Crazy. [00:15:48] Speaker A: Are you kidding? It's a great one, right? [00:15:50] Speaker D: That's a decent debut. [00:15:52] Speaker A: You know, the Colts scored on all seven of their possessions yesterday against the Dolphins, the first time since 1977. Dang. [00:16:02] Speaker C: I love some good stuff. [00:16:03] Speaker A: Manning didn't even do that. [00:16:04] Speaker D: Have we hit a new low for the Dolphins? Is this the lowest they've been since we've started this pod? [00:16:10] Speaker A: I think that's where we have to go next in our conversation because Jamie Eslaw writes in which fan base should be most concerned after week one and which team should be most excited? I don't know how you don't say the Dolphins fan base should be the most concerned. They're ready to get rid of TUA and sign Ryan Tannhill, who's still waiting for a team. [00:16:32] Speaker C: That team is about to full on reboot again. [00:16:35] Speaker D: They are directionless. What's going on there? [00:16:37] Speaker C: I think they made a mistake in putting all their eggs in the TUA basket. And then they double and triple downed on him even after his concussions because it was like they probably didn't feel like they had any other choice. They had it like what it was like two years ago. They had one of the most high octane offenses. Like they were. [00:17:02] Speaker A: They put up 60 points against the Broncos. [00:17:04] Speaker C: Yeah, they were like high flying and like Mike McDaniels was like the hot head coach that was out there. [00:17:12] Speaker A: And I was like, Louis Vuitton glasses. [00:17:14] Speaker C: He's all so cool out there. And they were like their offense was electric. Like, literally, it was very cool to watch. Like Tyreek Hill was at the top of his game. It didn't look like missing the Chiefs at all. And now the last year and a half, ever since Tua's concussions have really ramped up. I feel like they have declined. And I don't know if it's because the team is afraid of. Well, we got to be careful with him. Maybe two is afraid Maybe they just suck. [00:17:47] Speaker A: They looked awful yesterday. It was scary. [00:17:49] Speaker C: It could be all of it really. [00:17:51] Speaker A: I actually heard today a stat about Mahomes I really could not believe. I had to go look it up and it's true. Since Tyreek left the Chiefs and we're not. I am guessing we're not going to talk a lot about Chiefs. It was kind of hidden on a Friday that they lost in what was it? Mexico or Brazil? [00:18:09] Speaker C: Or Brazil. They looked exactly like they did last year to me. [00:18:13] Speaker D: So what's the stat? [00:18:13] Speaker A: So the stat is that Mahomes is this has thrown the most under 10 yard passes in the NFL only behind Daniel Jones. [00:18:27] Speaker D: Oh wow. [00:18:28] Speaker A: Since Tyreek left the Chiefs. So this deep down pass, downfield passing Mahomes I know that the defense has tremendously changed that they talked. I mean we had weeks and weeks and weeks of like can the Chiefs figure it out and then they make a big stretch and end up winning the Super Bowl. But the downfield passing of Mahomes not really a thing anymore. [00:18:52] Speaker C: The game on Friday proves that. [00:18:53] Speaker A: Well, I think a lot had to do with Xavier Worthy getting injured in the first play. [00:18:58] Speaker C: Not even that I watched that game. He overthrew one of their receivers multiple times by like a metric mile. Like he was overthrowing these guys. [00:19:10] Speaker D: Right. [00:19:11] Speaker C: He. I'm not going to get on a horse that Mahomes sucks. [00:19:17] Speaker A: I don't actually it's just as interesting. It is never. [00:19:21] Speaker C: Oh yeah. [00:19:21] Speaker A: I mean think of. I mean my home's the greatest quarterback of all time as everybody has always said. And is it because of the super bowl wins? Is it because of the talent? Is it. You know, it's just an interesting. I would not have thought Daniel Jones's last place and then him. [00:19:38] Speaker D: Right. [00:19:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:19:39] Speaker A: That's stunning to me. [00:19:40] Speaker D: That's fascinating. Well, he's clearly an efficient. He's very much an adaptable and efficient quarterback and place to win and I mean he very won an MVP award post Tyreek and like he still puts up. I mean you can be an efficient quarterback and like downfield passing is like a strategy. It's not like that being largely absent from his game at least especially compared to what we were used to before that. [00:20:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:10] Speaker A: It's not just the taking of the top of the defense off isn't really a thing for them as much now. [00:20:15] Speaker C: I feel like last year win games. I feel like last year was the first time I watched the Chiefs and I was. I. I know they went 15 and 2 and got all the way to the Super Bowl. I thought they were very underwhelming for most of the season. I wasn't surprised they got their butt handed to them in the Super Bowl. I picked that tag. [00:20:35] Speaker A: You did a good job of that. I was surprised. [00:20:37] Speaker C: And it was because, like, the. Their offense just looked so anemic the entire year. [00:20:41] Speaker D: It was hard to watch. [00:20:43] Speaker C: And they continued that trend on Friday. They looked just as anemic and slow offensively as they did last year. I don't know if it's because they don't really have much of a running game right now. I don't know if it's because they just don't like. Kelsey doesn't know that. It's probably time like you're. [00:21:02] Speaker A: Kelsey played well. [00:21:03] Speaker C: He played all right. He. He dropped a touchdown. So I want. And that ended up potentially costing him the game because they didn't get a touchdown. That drive when he dropped it fair. So I. I'm not. He had one. He had a couple good catches. The big deep bomb that he caught was impressive. Like I was huffing it. But I think he probably had almost died. I mean. [00:21:28] Speaker A: I'm telling you right now, the way that these wide receivers extend and just fall on their body with nothing stopping them. Oh, I don't think I could do that. [00:21:36] Speaker C: Oh, no, it looks painful every time they do it. [00:21:38] Speaker A: But you could take a sack from an FO. [00:21:39] Speaker C: Oh, 100. [00:21:42] Speaker A: You're one of my favorite. [00:21:43] Speaker C: I just think I could. I could survive that. [00:21:46] Speaker D: I could take one of those blow the whistle, stand up sacks where they. [00:21:49] Speaker A: Wrap the quarterback and I don't even think I get. Crack a rib. [00:21:52] Speaker D: It probably would crack a rib. [00:21:54] Speaker C: I would probably be on an iron lung. But I think I could survive. I stand by that. But I will say if I was to pick a team that I think should be excited, I would pick the Jets. I thought Justin Fields. I thought Justin Fields played quite well. [00:22:17] Speaker A: Are you saying all 32 teams you have picked the jets or of the teams that are 0 and 1, you would pick the Jets? [00:22:22] Speaker C: I'm just saying of all the teams, I would be the most like. So some of these teams. [00:22:27] Speaker D: I must have missed a lot of that game. I saw. I watched. [00:22:28] Speaker C: It was exciting. Part of it. [00:22:30] Speaker D: And I didn't see the. Just to a single positive thing during when I tuned in. [00:22:35] Speaker A: What, you were not watching the game? [00:22:37] Speaker C: Yeah. What. That game was actually pretty. They were winning a good portion. It was a really good back and forth. [00:22:45] Speaker D: I take your word for it. I just had it on the iPad while I was racing Around. So anyway, continue, continue. [00:22:52] Speaker C: I'm flabbergasted that you were like, they didn't do anything impressive. I'm like, I actually thought Justin Field. [00:22:58] Speaker A: Who played game like that. [00:23:00] Speaker C: Yes, the best game of the weekend, I would say. [00:23:05] Speaker A: Actually, would you say anybody should be more excited than the Jet? I mean, the jets did have some. I just think you say, why? [00:23:11] Speaker C: Like, because they haven't. They just experienced. I mean, I know that they lost, but the last several years under the jets, that offense has been awful. Just anemic, slow, nothing happening, nothing going for it. They have suffered years under Zach Wilson, and then they get Aaron Rodgers, who's supposed to be their savior, only for him to get injured. And then you're stuck back with Zach Wilson, the guy you just. You're done with. And then you finally get a season with Rodgers and he barely outperforms Zach Wilson, like, barely outperforms him. And in the first game, you have Justin Fields and you put up 30 plus points and he's running all over the place. He was dynamic. He threw good balls. [00:24:07] Speaker A: And on the other side of that, they were beat by the quarterback. They said, yeah, it's painful anymore. [00:24:15] Speaker C: And that is painful. [00:24:16] Speaker A: Fly across the country to say, we're good. [00:24:20] Speaker C: Different coaches. [00:24:21] Speaker A: Right. [00:24:22] Speaker C: So this is like that jets that lost. It was a different jets that Aaron. [00:24:26] Speaker A: Glenn said no thank you to him and that's fine. [00:24:29] Speaker C: I. And I don't if I'm watching that game, though. I'm not disappointed that I said no to Aaron Rodgers. [00:24:36] Speaker A: Do you think that what's more sustainable for the season, Justin Fields continuing to do that and be healthy or Aaron Rodgers? [00:24:44] Speaker C: Oh, I mean, I. These are these what if situations. That's like asking, oh, no. [00:24:49] Speaker A: This is saying what's more likely. [00:24:52] Speaker C: I. I think Justin Fields is younger, so I would actually say that's more. [00:24:55] Speaker D: Pretty sure he is. We can fact check that. We can fact check that. [00:24:58] Speaker C: Shut up. I just mean I think he's. That's more sustainable because the fact that he's not just younger, like we're talking, he's almost like 20 years younger. [00:25:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:12] Speaker C: Something like 10 or something like that. I actually know how old. [00:25:15] Speaker D: Yeah, like half. Half Aaron's age. [00:25:17] Speaker C: Right. And Aaron Rodgers, I. Okay. He had a good game. You know. Is he gonna be able to keep that up? Maybe? He. He might. He might. I'm willing to be wrong on that. [00:25:27] Speaker A: But can I tell you a tell of yours? It's one of my favorite. I don't know if we should unwind the bell. I don't we can't unring this bell. I'm gonna do it. When you get high pitched voice, it's where your truth is coming out. [00:25:41] Speaker D: Oh, I mean, I don't like when you're. [00:25:45] Speaker A: I don't know what you're talking about. It's where your truest take comes out is where you get high pitched. [00:25:52] Speaker C: Well, do you really want to get me high pitched? Because. [00:25:56] Speaker A: No, hold on two seconds before you. Because we're going to. [00:25:59] Speaker C: Okay. [00:25:59] Speaker A: Did you have a team that you felt like should be more excited? Kyle? [00:26:03] Speaker D: There's a couple that jump out as options. I think the Bills is an easy choice, but I'm going to go Raiders. I like what I see from the Raiders. Pete Carroll is a great coach. I think they've got a fantastic quarterback. [00:26:13] Speaker A: Who had a great day. [00:26:14] Speaker D: I think that all around the offense looked effective and I would be kind of excited as a Raider fan because they've been going through transition and have some reason to kind of feel hopeful about the future. [00:26:25] Speaker C: For sure. [00:26:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:26] Speaker D: Maybe it's not a dumb rebuild. Maybe it's not goofy like some other teams are experiencing. You know, I don't, I don't know. The Colts looked good, but I don't feel good about it. I feel good about the Raiders. Oh, the Chargers. [00:26:35] Speaker C: Actually. [00:26:35] Speaker D: The Chargers is a better answer. I like that answer, actually. [00:26:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:38] Speaker A: I've g loved Herbert. [00:26:42] Speaker D: That was good. [00:26:42] Speaker C: I thought the Chargers just played really solid ball. They did the entire time. [00:26:46] Speaker D: Herbert was, I believe, my off season MVP pick. Going out on a limb there as like a dark horse. But I seriously think that that team is kind of on the rise and might surprise a lot of people. I think the most impressive quarterback for the weekend. [00:27:01] Speaker C: Would it be a surprise to have Harbaugh back in the playoffs though? I mean, he was in the super bowl, right? You know, like he won a national champ. [00:27:10] Speaker D: Like the guy knows he always wins. [00:27:12] Speaker C: The guy knows how to coach. [00:27:13] Speaker D: He's a winner. [00:27:13] Speaker A: Who's got it better than him. [00:27:15] Speaker D: That's right. [00:27:16] Speaker C: His brother. [00:27:16] Speaker A: I think my answer his brother. My answer you guys kind of took like, what's this? The biggest gap from hopeless to hopefully. And my gap is probably smaller in the jump, but I think it's from hopeful to excited. And that would be the Cincinnati Bengals. Cincinnati Bengals. [00:27:40] Speaker D: That's not who I thought you were going to say. [00:27:42] Speaker A: Cincinnati Bengals have lost the first game. [00:27:45] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:27:47] Speaker A: How many times have we talked about a slow start over the last five years? [00:27:51] Speaker C: They almost lost that game. [00:27:53] Speaker A: They were very close about the Browns and Bengals. The Browns held the Bengals to seven yards in the second half. It's the fewest yards in the second half by a winning team in 25 years. They outgained Cincinnati 327 to 141 and doubled them on first downs in a one point loss. That's crazy. [00:28:16] Speaker C: Do you want to know when I. [00:28:18] Speaker A: Say hopeful and like, you should be excited. You played that poor Jamar. Jamar Chase played that awful and you still won. How many times does it happen like that and they, they lose the game. That's where I look at and say, like, I like that a team that's a good pick that goes like that and can win ugly. They don't go back and look and say, you remember week one, they did. The Chiefs did beat the Broncos on that blocked extra point. And that would have changed a lot of the seating. Like, people don't do that. They just, they talk about the ship. [00:28:53] Speaker C: I feel. [00:28:53] Speaker D: How are we not saying the Packers. [00:28:55] Speaker A: That's my. That was my second pick. [00:28:57] Speaker D: I thought you were going to say that. [00:28:58] Speaker A: The scene of when you said going. [00:29:00] Speaker D: From like hopeful to excited. [00:29:02] Speaker C: Can I, can we. I do want to interject on the. The sack here. Oh, I feel like, I feel like people are actually over playing Micah Parsons impact on that game quite a bit. It's been all over the news. Like Micah, Micah Parsons coming in and he got a sack and he affected the game. And I'm like, the dude garbage. The dude. The dude played like only a handful of snaps in the first half. And when the Lions were. If they were down three to 17 in the first half, they were already getting their butt handed to him. They already looked bad. The D line for the packers was already affecting the Jared Goff and the run game. They were already doing this. Micah. I'm. That's not saying that he's like bad or anything like that. I'm just saying I think they're overplaying his impact because. Oh, first game with the packers got a sack. Yeah. There was like four minutes left in that game and they were in desperation mode. That sack was meaningless to me. I'm sorry. It wasn't like an amazing play. Was it cool for the Packers? Oh, hell yeah. I mean, if I'm a Packers fan and I'm watching my newly acquired D defensive end, who is a high profile guy, get a sack in the first game in the green and gold, I'm like, hell yeah, dude. Hell yeah. [00:30:23] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:30:24] Speaker C: And the stadium. That was the biggest roar I have of the entire. The entire game. [00:30:30] Speaker D: And so that was Campbell first loss. [00:30:33] Speaker A: Are that loud like you've watched generally. [00:30:36] Speaker C: Like they can get the Go Pack Go. Can get quite loud. [00:30:38] Speaker A: Sure. [00:30:39] Speaker C: In certain games. [00:30:39] Speaker A: I wouldn't advise Bills. [00:30:41] Speaker C: Yeah, but that. So I'm like, you know, fine. [00:30:47] Speaker D: Right. [00:30:47] Speaker C: But I. Yeah, the packers, they manhandled the Lions and you know, it's. This is kind of what it is. I was afraid going into this season, I feel like I said this though, that my biggest question mark for the lines was their O line. And I was like, if that O line because they lost Zeitler and Rag now and they didn't really have a clear succession plan for that. They didn't go out and get anybody. I was really worried about what that O line was going to do and I was like, wow. You know, like, I like their O line coach and you know, Dan Campbell can probably figure it out. I think my concerns proved valid though. That O line was decimated and as a result, Jared Goff looked terrible. The run game couldn't do anything right. It was rough. [00:31:39] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:31:39] Speaker C: Do you want. I mean, you can talk about how excited you are as a Packers fan. Now. [00:31:42] Speaker D: I didn't get to watch the game. Why you gotta. Why you gotta put me on the spot like that? I was moving into my new house all weekend. [00:31:48] Speaker A: Jameer Gibbs had a crazy stat yesterday. Did you know that he had 10 catches from 31 yards? [00:31:56] Speaker D: No. [00:31:57] Speaker C: Okay. [00:31:58] Speaker A: Bonko. To me, a running back could have that. I. I thought that the. The play to me, the sack is just cool. Like, I don't think it's like game changing or earth shatter. It was just a cool scene of like the scrum and out of nowhere is like a horror film of Micah Parsons chasing you. Yes, correct. He's a predator, right? Right. [00:32:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:19] Speaker A: And he killed him. [00:32:19] Speaker D: What, what I did see, it definitely looks like. I mean this is the guy drawing the attention of the O line. This is the guy getting double teamed. This is. He's. Other people are opening up because. And that's what happens when you get like an like top tier player. [00:32:31] Speaker A: That's Hutch. Hutch got double teamed the entire game. He didn't. [00:32:34] Speaker C: And there was nobody. [00:32:35] Speaker A: He was double teamed and no one. [00:32:37] Speaker C: On the other side to help him out. Which means. Which it was half their problem for forever. [00:32:42] Speaker D: Right. [00:32:43] Speaker C: They. They didn't answer. Again, they just didn't answer that question. In the off season, I think the. [00:32:48] Speaker A: Packers excitement might even be more in fact of the idea that they are building a team with wide receivers. A team that they will go dump Two first round picks to acquire and pay. [00:33:02] Speaker D: I've never seen this in my life. [00:33:03] Speaker C: They're moving like they're making moves. They're going for it. [00:33:07] Speaker A: Final As a Packers fan, it's fun. [00:33:11] Speaker D: To see a team try and push their chips in and make moves every off season and approaching every draft. You know you're a fan of a team and you hope your team pushes. You never want your team to be passive or tepid about their approach to the following season and just hope for the best with what we've got. You never want to see that. Yet year after year after year as fans, that's what we witness. And so when you have some allegiance to a team and you witness them get aggressive and make strong moves that renew your hope, that's like throwing a big pile of coal on the fire here. It's extremely exciting and that's what we have seen the Lions do in a few years. We've seen them draft really successfully. We've seen them change the regime in terms of all the management. We've seen them bring in some pretty good talent and the results have been incredible. And that's been so exciting to watch, reinvigorating. [00:34:08] Speaker A: As a fan, you want to know. [00:34:09] Speaker C: What they didn't do this year. There wasn't any big signings coming out of the Lions camp other than their own guys, right? [00:34:15] Speaker D: That's true. [00:34:16] Speaker C: So they didn't go out and find a replacement for Zadarius Smith to pair up with Hutch like everybody felt like they needed to do? [00:34:24] Speaker D: Sure, that would have been great. [00:34:25] Speaker C: They let Zeitler and Ragnow go and they didn't go out and find anybody else to go and fix that hole. [00:34:32] Speaker D: Early in this offseason it was like rumors and hopes and wishes like could they make a move for Max Crosby or for Miles Garrett or something like that. Just imagine, just the dream said that. [00:34:44] Speaker C: They aren't really going to probably make huge splashes like that. They have said like they want to kind of build the team through the draft. Like, that's Ben, Brad Holmes. The lines are kind of like, they're all like, I'm not going to. I'm going to take that game with a grain of salt because half of those guys didn't play. That was game one preseason for them. Like they literally, they hadn't played at all in the preseason. You have two basically rookies as far as like Mahogany played a couple snaps last year, but it like full time now. He's a rookie out there. [00:35:20] Speaker A: How about that Tesla catch? [00:35:22] Speaker C: It was great. One hand sick. He was. Been great all preseason, though. [00:35:26] Speaker A: He played great in the preseason. [00:35:28] Speaker C: The kid's gonna be good for us for sure. As long as Jared Goff finds time. [00:35:32] Speaker A: Via Tim Patrick for the Lions. [00:35:34] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:35:34] Speaker C: Which is what they need. So. I don't know. I'm not like selling on the Lions. It was week one, Right. I'm not super concerned about them. [00:35:42] Speaker A: No. [00:35:42] Speaker D: That'd be crazy. [00:35:43] Speaker C: If they look like this and it's like week five and I'm like. Like you would have hoped. You would have probably found a groove by now. I understand. A new coordinator coming in. You got new guys on the O line, Right? There's correct. And they lost a lot of their side coaches, too. [00:36:01] Speaker A: Sure. So there's a lot of new regime. [00:36:04] Speaker C: Yeah. There's a lot of growing pains that I think the Lions are going to go through. We actually saw the. The Eagles go through something very similar where they had. They lost some of their guys. They had some pretty severe growing pains. And then they come back the next year and they won the Super Bowl. Right. [00:36:20] Speaker D: So I think it shows that the NFC north hype is not unfounded. It's this. This division is really the premium division in football as far as I'm concerned. [00:36:30] Speaker C: I would not be surprised to watch them struggle for the first half of the season. But in the second half, they get hot. I wouldn't be surprised by that. [00:36:40] Speaker A: Just better hope that everybody else isn't as hot at the beginning of a gap. [00:36:45] Speaker C: It's. It's rough. Their schedule is not going to do them any favors. They need pretty much every win that they can get. [00:36:50] Speaker D: Right. [00:36:51] Speaker C: So. [00:36:52] Speaker A: Next question. Eric Gianunzio. One. And. Oh, in fantasy. By the way, who was more impressive in week one? Aaron Rodgers, Justin Fields, Daniel Jones, or my fantasy comeback against Kyle? [00:37:05] Speaker D: That was pretty good. G. I'm excited for you. Come back. He was. He was beating me the entire time. [00:37:11] Speaker A: He wasn't. Yeah, he wasn't. [00:37:13] Speaker D: Yeah. He was projected to beat me. And every time I checked, he was still projected to beat me. [00:37:18] Speaker A: I think he needed Derrick Henry to get two touchdowns in 100 yards to beat you. [00:37:23] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah. Derek Henry put up just fine. [00:37:26] Speaker A: And the Bills. [00:37:26] Speaker C: That was a lot. [00:37:28] Speaker D: It was great. That was good. [00:37:29] Speaker A: Don't scoff. [00:37:30] Speaker C: Derrick Henry. [00:37:30] Speaker A: He's given to have that. [00:37:32] Speaker C: He gotta get. [00:37:33] Speaker D: Yes. [00:37:33] Speaker C: Derrick Henry. [00:37:34] Speaker D: Good for you. [00:37:34] Speaker C: I just. I. I was watching that game, though, and I was like, man, how are you still doing this, Dude? [00:37:41] Speaker D: I know. When will it stop? [00:37:42] Speaker C: I thought his. He would have fell off the cliff a couple Years ago. [00:37:46] Speaker A: His high school football stat that he had right now he's been in the NFL for like 11 seasons and he needs 1200 more rushing yards in the NFL and he will finally have as much rushing yards as he had in high school. [00:37:59] Speaker C: That's insane. What did they do make sense? That doesn't. What did he do, just get the ball? [00:38:05] Speaker A: 12,000 rushing yards in high school. [00:38:09] Speaker C: The only way that makes sense is if he got the ball, ran down to the, to the end zone, was about to score and was like, nah, and then did a ue and then ran the course to the feet field. [00:38:20] Speaker A: It's crazy. [00:38:21] Speaker C: It's crazy what you do in Madden when you're just like cheesing out. [00:38:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like, I want the extra points. Quarterback, go take a second. Yeah, just like. [00:38:29] Speaker D: Right, right. [00:38:30] Speaker A: What is this? What would you say was most impressive? You watched, you, you have advocated that this jets and Steelers game was the game of the week. It was actually the lowest over under of total score. And it out. It was the highest scoring game. That's the first time. [00:38:46] Speaker D: Oh, did you notice something in the score? There were 15 games this weekend and four of them were decided by more than one score. Wow. These were a lot of close games, you guys. [00:38:58] Speaker C: I actually thought it was close games the whole weekend. [00:39:00] Speaker D: Every game was competitive. [00:39:01] Speaker C: It was a pretty good weekend. I actually thought the, the Dallas Eagles game was another good one. [00:39:08] Speaker A: Surprising. Dad looked really good. [00:39:10] Speaker C: He did. Like, I was actually kind of blown away that I was like, oh, my gosh. [00:39:17] Speaker D: That guy takes a lot of crap. [00:39:18] Speaker C: Look at that. [00:39:20] Speaker A: I looked really good in the pocket. He's actually a good quarterback around a lot. And like, I, I heard somebody say, like, you know, he looks thinner. I'm like, are we really doing like the quarterback physique was like the reason that. No, I mean, he just looked. [00:39:32] Speaker C: I thought his jawline looks so much better. [00:39:35] Speaker A: There was a pass interference. I was against pick or against the defense while they were covering Pickens. Pickens still almost caught it. I mean, he is gonna, I think he's gonna be a great wide receiver too, for them. [00:39:46] Speaker D: Yeah, you said that in the off season. [00:39:47] Speaker A: I'm, I'm really excited to see that. And he's a little crazy. That crazy goes well on the Cowboys. Jerry Jones loves crazy. [00:39:53] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. [00:39:53] Speaker C: Gosh, man. There was an interview with Jerry Jones. He looked like he was on his deathbed. He just looks so ancient of days. [00:40:02] Speaker A: Who would you say in this group is the most impressive there, Ian? Tell me why that was weak. [00:40:07] Speaker C: I Would say the only one that I would personally choose as most impressive was Justin Fields. And the biggest reason why is because I actually felt like for so long in Justin Fields career, he has been trying to. He got stuck with a Bears regime that was abysmal. He gets thrown over to the Steelers. And I actually. I just didn't feel like the Steelers gave him enough of a chance because. [00:40:35] Speaker A: Give him a chance at all. They put Russell Wilson in. [00:40:37] Speaker C: They play. He played for them and he won them games. And he looked good doing it. And he provided more dynamic play than. Than Russ did. And then they just ditched him. [00:40:49] Speaker A: Benched him for Russ. Russ lost yesterday. The coach even said, I'm not guaranteeing Russ starts next week. [00:40:56] Speaker C: He looked. [00:40:56] Speaker A: It's weak. [00:40:57] Speaker C: Awful. [00:40:58] Speaker D: Just like the Giants are so stupid. I was dumb team. [00:41:03] Speaker C: I was annoyed that the Steelers didn't dump Russ and sign Fields. I was like, fields is young. Like, you can build this guy up. He can be like a quarterback you can use. And I think that's why I was, like, annoyed that they didn't with them. I was just kind of annoyed with the team. [00:41:23] Speaker A: I'm like, that's a good way to put that. [00:41:25] Speaker C: You're choosing the older quarterback to hopefully see if he's got something in the tank to maybe get you a Super bowl run. When. Come on. Hey, but Daniel Jones looked like Danny Dimes, man. [00:41:39] Speaker A: Dude, he's back, man. Indiana Jones. [00:41:43] Speaker D: Oh, he is. [00:41:45] Speaker C: Oh, gosh. [00:41:47] Speaker A: You can use it. [00:41:48] Speaker C: Cool. [00:41:49] Speaker D: Thanks, man. [00:41:50] Speaker C: How has that not been. I mean, it's. At some point we need to trademark that immediate trademark. [00:41:56] Speaker A: There we go. We're good. [00:41:56] Speaker C: Oh, nice. [00:41:57] Speaker A: I declare bankruptcy. That's very cool. We love our listeners that write in question, but there were some things that weren't on our biggest. That are part of the news, I would feel like. But listeners didn't get to. Ian, what would you say? [00:42:12] Speaker C: I would say the only top. [00:42:14] Speaker A: Top thing, top priority. We need to talk. [00:42:15] Speaker C: I'd say the only thing we haven't really talked a lot about is the Bills Ravens game. [00:42:19] Speaker A: I mean, Kyle, what a game. [00:42:21] Speaker D: What a game. [00:42:22] Speaker C: It was. It was. It was an entertaining game. [00:42:24] Speaker A: What a game. [00:42:26] Speaker D: I was able to watch, like the last quarter, I think, or half of the last quarter. [00:42:30] Speaker A: Good quarter to watch. [00:42:32] Speaker C: So you watched mostly the Bills being successful? [00:42:36] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, I do. [00:42:38] Speaker C: You missed most of the Ravens success for the. And when the. [00:42:43] Speaker D: Okay, okay, okay. Let it out. You've been keeping it in this whole time we've been waiting. [00:42:48] Speaker A: Pop that van. [00:42:49] Speaker C: I've been trying. [00:42:50] Speaker D: Just open Up. [00:42:51] Speaker C: I was watching. [00:42:52] Speaker D: Share your bees. [00:42:53] Speaker C: Okay. I was watching. State your case. I was watching this game, and as I'm watching, I was finding myself becoming increasingly infuriated by what I was watching. And I. I could. I couldn't actually figure out right away why I was annoyed at. While I was watching. [00:43:14] Speaker D: Interesting. [00:43:15] Speaker C: But I eventually landed on the fact of I. We just watched this game. And I legitimately mean we just watched this game play out in very similar fashion, divisional round. I had just watched the Ravens collapse when I feel like they probably were the better team. And there's a lot of room for debate. I'm willing to accept that. I'm willing to accept that. And I was just, like, annoyed by the fact that I'm like. And it got me thinking of, like, how often have I watched both Josh Allen and Lamar? I don't. I don't want to say, like, actually, you know what? Let me. [00:43:58] Speaker A: Let me be the victim of somebody else beating them when they were the better team. [00:44:01] Speaker C: Yes. But, like, when they lose, I. I feel like I've watched the Ravens play this out before. I have watched them do this thing where they are the better team. Boom. Out first rounds. Tennessee Titans just beat you. Oh, boom. We fight. Oh, yes. We gotta host an AFC championship game. We are so much better than the Chiefs. Oh, we lost because we, like, tried too hard and we didn't. We forgot to play the game the way we play, and we just, you know, we lost the game. [00:44:34] Speaker D: Right, right, right. The Z. Flowers losing his mind, kind of. [00:44:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:37] Speaker A: And then we go game yesterday for him, by the way. [00:44:39] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:44:40] Speaker C: And then we go and. [00:44:41] Speaker D: Except that stupid Jet sweep at the end. I'm sorry. You're fine. [00:44:45] Speaker C: And then we go to the divisional round of last year and drop passes. Aaron throws. [00:44:51] Speaker A: Mark Andrews. [00:44:52] Speaker D: Mark Andrews fumble. [00:44:53] Speaker C: Right. Just like silly mistakes. And then if the Bills lost this game, you could have the same conversation about them. Oh, we beat the Chiefs in the plot in the regular season. Oh, yeah, we did it. [00:45:06] Speaker D: Look at us. [00:45:07] Speaker C: Oh, we lost again to the. [00:45:09] Speaker A: The. [00:45:10] Speaker C: To the Chiefs in the. In the. In the playoffs when it actually, you know, matters. I just. I feel like I've watched these two teams, and I don't want to say the two players, okay? Because I actually don't believe. I don't want to blame Lamar and Josh. They are their respective teams. The Ravens are Lamar, and the Bills are nothing without Josh Allen. And I look at these two quarterbacks, it's like I'm Harvey Dent before I burnt half my face off. It's the same coin. It's the same person. To me they play the same. They have very similar play styles. Their impact on the game is very similar. They're both excellent runners, I would probably say in the entire league. I would probably put those two at my top two in terms of ability to run as a quarterback. And then both of them are good passers. I'd probably give Lamar the edge on the running and Josh the edge on the throwing. But they're so close on everything. They're all the same to me. They're literally the same. And maybe that's like the problem is because their team is. Their team's ability to win is so wrapped up in their success that any deviation from their play just the team just tanks. There's some something to that and I just get frustrated because I feel like I've watched these two teams always just do the same thing which is like when it matters your hero ball fails and you just crumble and you choke and you die. And then we're watching Patrick Mahomes in the super bowl all over again. Because he's not, he's not choking it away. [00:47:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I think we live in and it's a team. [00:47:09] Speaker C: I want to clarify. I think it's the team choking it away. I don't want to say it's Lamar or Josh because I don't actually think that's fair. Because I actually think yep, they get in that position. [00:47:20] Speaker A: I think in the NFL today it is such a cube quarterback centric league. You are tied to your quarterback. I don't know many teams that could say that your success was not rooted in your quarterback even think of true. Jalen hurts like the Eagles are an all around team. Look at Jalen hurts. His playoff stats, they're nuts. He's like very good. Perfect games left and right. So like this is true. [00:47:43] Speaker C: But I think with those two teams in particular, I think their quarterback just does significantly more for sure than others. [00:47:54] Speaker A: In terms of value and percentage wise of what they do for the team. They're very high. But I think that they're. They're victims of being in a league that they will be second and third best quarterbacks of because the first was alive when they were there. Patrick Mahomes. Like it's the. How many championships would the other teams in the 90s have if Michael Jordan wasn't there? [00:48:18] Speaker C: That's fair. [00:48:19] Speaker A: Teams in the east would have made it if LeBron wasn't there in the last 20 years. Yeah. So right like right. [00:48:25] Speaker D: Lots of professional players that Was like. [00:48:28] Speaker C: The part that was annoying me specifically about this game was like, the Ravens just coughed this away. [00:48:35] Speaker A: Like, you not. Did you like watching Tom Brady, like, be a dynasty? Was that as a thing for you? [00:48:41] Speaker C: I was actually thinking about, like, while I was pondering, like, what was annoying me about this game, I was thinking about, like, Patrick Mahomes and like, you know, like, oh, this is kind of. [00:48:50] Speaker A: Why we don't like Patrick Dynasty. [00:48:51] Speaker C: Talk dynasties. Like, people hate, like, people. People are tired of watching the Chiefs. It's just like, we've played it out. We've done this. [00:49:02] Speaker A: It's the media cycle as well, I think. [00:49:04] Speaker C: And I think that's what was bothering me about this game in particular was because I've seen you guys do this. [00:49:11] Speaker A: Second and third place fight all the. [00:49:12] Speaker C: Time, and I've seen the Ravens choke a game away that they probably shouldn't have lost. I've seen this. I've played. [00:49:19] Speaker A: You're like, I've been the negative. Lose, lose. No matter how that game would have. [00:49:22] Speaker C: Ended, I would have been annoyed. If the Bills. I would have been annoyed. It was just. [00:49:28] Speaker A: What does it take for that to be a good game? Because that was. [00:49:30] Speaker C: It was a great. I want to be clear. I was very entertained. [00:49:34] Speaker A: Does it take for you to be happy and positive about that game? Then how would that. What would it have to be? Would it have to be the game. [00:49:41] Speaker C: That I can compare it to where it didn't feel like either team was choking it away and you had that level of play. There's two games I can think of, Rams with Jared Goff versus Chiefs, where they were just like, absolutely going off on each other. It wasn't. It was no defense just didn't exist. And it wasn't because their defenses were bad that year. It was just their offenses were something else that year. They were just on another planet on that particular game. And then the other one where I. You. I have to give credit to the Bills on this one because they were a part of this game where they played that game damn near perfectly and they just got bit in the end was the playoffs. [00:50:26] Speaker A: Seconds left. [00:50:27] Speaker C: When the playoffs. When they went back and forth with Pacman, Pack, Pat, Patrick, Mahomes. [00:50:33] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:50:34] Speaker C: And I was like, that was a great game because both teams played at the highest level. I didn't watch a team choke it away. I watched a team lose because of the way the rules favored the other team. [00:50:50] Speaker A: I could even say that Lions, packers game where the Lions beat the packers to hold them out of the playoffs. Yeah, that was a fun. That was a game that will stand with me. [00:50:59] Speaker C: It's not that the. The Ravens and the the Bills aren't capable teams and aren't two of the best teams in the league with two of the best quarterbacks in the league. Like of course they are. And of course that game was fun to watch. I just was annoyed because I'm like. [00:51:17] Speaker A: I haven't ever seen that from you. That's why I was more surprised. And don't take it as like yeah about quarterback or whatever in your site more that like you're pretty football positive and to hear this about you is kind of. It's unique. I wouldn't have thought it. I would have thought you would have been more annoyed that Rogers didn't do this for the jets and screwed them over or you know some take like that. [00:51:40] Speaker C: You know what? Now that you're mentioning it. [00:51:42] Speaker A: But. But it was interesting and I think if you look back at the a lot of the Ravens games I'll say specifically like we just marked on Mark Andrews. No pun intended. And Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry fumbled. He's fumbled 21 times in his entire career. Is a.088 percentage to fumble. [00:52:00] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:52:00] Speaker A: It's one of the highest in NFL for the amount of times he's carried. That's a rarity. [00:52:05] Speaker D: Right. [00:52:06] Speaker A: For him to be the reason. He's the reason. [00:52:08] Speaker D: And that was necessary for the Bills to win. They and I think had to get that lucky break. [00:52:13] Speaker C: And I think what I think it's because I. I want both of those teams. I want to see them in the super. [00:52:22] Speaker A: For them. [00:52:23] Speaker C: I want to see Lamar win a Super bowl ring. I want that for him. I actually think he deserves that for his level of play for what he. It would solidify him in terms of when we talk about this particular generation in football. If he had a ring you would easily. I think even though he may not have as many rings as Patrick, you would probably have to debate between the two of them which one you would want. [00:52:51] Speaker A: Is it like how LeBron has a ring but he won it for Cleveland so that counts as almost like 2 1/2 compared to MJ who wanted for Chicago kind of. [00:53:00] Speaker C: I just think like yeah, I just want. [00:53:03] Speaker A: It's a fair argument. I. I appreciate that you held out. [00:53:07] Speaker D: Interesting to hear you. Because I was skeptical. I didn't think you were gonna bring something that. That made me. This stirred me up a little bit. But in reality like I'm kind of. I'm with you in the sense that it can be. It can be a frustrating watch. It can be. Well, there's a part of that I really don't like, but what I relate to is the fact that I will watch these games and I will be entertained and amazed. I'm routinely watching these games and just going, whoa, just like, this is why I watch football. Like, this is incredible. These, these guys are super human. [00:53:38] Speaker C: That Allen pass to get them the touchdown to put to field goal. [00:53:42] Speaker D: Perfection. [00:53:43] Speaker C: Oh, insane, insane perfection. [00:53:46] Speaker D: And then when Lamar goes back and like it turns that dramatic would have been, it would have been a sack for every other quarterback, but he makes it a 19 yard game. [00:53:53] Speaker C: He just went back 40 yards and then somehow got a first out. [00:53:57] Speaker D: I went, this guy's an alien. These guys are aliens. And you know what Derek Henry does at his age and stuff like that. I'm watching this going like, this is incredible. This is. And then when you think about it, like, oh gosh, it is, it is. It does make like these moments feel like, amazing to watch but frustratingly inconsequential. But they think it's to your point because, you know, like, what will this ultimately amount to? And then that's what I relate to. But that's also what irritates me because I get really frustrated with all of the significance being zero sum and amounting only to the Lombardi Trophy at the end, which is very, very difficult to achieve and can be very outside of your own circumstantial control. It's a team sport and you can be playing against dynasty in your own conference and so on, like victim of your circumstances. And there are many, many great professional athletes throughout the years who have not been able to. I mean, they've left a lasting mark on their sport and did not walk away with a ring. And I know it's easy to, like, I get kind of frustrated with people kind of put that on everything and, and also like the fan perspective in me, I actually get a lot of joy out of just the sport. The enjoyment of like a given game, a given game. Like I, you know, we didn't get a lot of postseason success in the Rodgers era for Packers. I still look back fondly on that era because we had a lot of great football and I got to watch one of the all time greats win a lot of games and do a lot of amazing things. And I don't look back on that and say, like, oh, it sucks because we didn't win the trophies. [00:55:41] Speaker A: Although he did, but he did win. Like, do you think that's quenched? Because one was There it would have been changed. [00:55:47] Speaker D: It would be a little bit of a different feeling like if he. If that Packer team never got a Super bowl. Like, because I think Rogers during his tenure was like one of the all time best quarterbacks that there was. Like really like in that era, who. Who played it better? [00:56:01] Speaker C: You know who. This is a good question for. Isn't Jamie a Buffalo fan? [00:56:07] Speaker A: Jamie lives in Buffalo surrounded by Buffalo fans. [00:56:10] Speaker C: A team that went to the super bowl four times and never got a. Got a hoist that I wonder how they would like, how does that fan base definitely frustrate. [00:56:19] Speaker A: We're going to reach out to the. [00:56:20] Speaker D: Family, but I know I push back on. Like you're not allowed to feel any joy unless there's a ring at the end. Like it can be fun to just like win a lot of games and watch star players like do amazing things. That can be fun. [00:56:34] Speaker C: It's true. [00:56:35] Speaker A: I think something to keep in mind in that is also. I know we're gonna turn sports for a second, but Giannis Antetokounmpo, par forward star for the Milwaukee Bucks, talked a lot about after he was bounced in the playoffs a couple years ago. He was, I mean, just eliminated from the playoffs. And a reporter said, did you see the season as a failure? And he said, no, I don't. I see failure. I see each season as a step and the steps are taking me closer. He goes, you wake up, you do your job. Did you fail? If you didn't get a promotion at the end of the year, did you. Was this whole year a loss? You know, it's a very interesting concept. It is an all or nothing kind of perspective. I feel like that happens when we're very hyperbolic and very quick to react. We want to fire Mike McDaniels. Right now I'm thinking about it, but. [00:57:22] Speaker D: I know that players have to feel that way and players do feel that way. Fans, we don't have to feel that way. [00:57:28] Speaker A: How do you not watch Sean Dermot call plays on a two point conversion? It's like they're hyping up this two point conversion. They've been working all summer. Every practice they probably run it and it's just a fade. [00:57:39] Speaker C: That's. That was your creative. [00:57:40] Speaker A: How do you not get mad at that? How do you not have some emotion come out watching the game? There's no way I'd be shaking my hands through the tv right if that was my team. Yeah, don't watch a Notre Dame game with me. [00:57:57] Speaker C: You know, this is the thing We. We've talked a lot about, like, why we watch. Can we move into my segment? Because I think we're ready here. I want us. [00:58:08] Speaker A: Are you good? [00:58:09] Speaker C: No, you don't need music. I want us to craft our perfect Sunday watching football. Or maybe it's not a Sunday, but your perfect. [00:58:20] Speaker D: Okay. [00:58:20] Speaker C: Viewing experience. [00:58:22] Speaker D: Wow. So we can, like, magic wand this. [00:58:24] Speaker C: Not quite. Okay, you're gonna get a list. [00:58:26] Speaker D: Tell us the parameters. [00:58:27] Speaker C: You're gonna get 15 to spend for everything. [00:58:33] Speaker A: How many categories? [00:58:34] Speaker C: There's going to be four rounds. We're gonna draft Snake this style, so once someone buys something, the other person cannot buy it. [00:58:42] Speaker A: Okay. Can we hear what's in the bank? [00:58:43] Speaker C: Okay. No, I'm not. Well, I'll tell you. I'll go through each round, but I am not going to tell you what the next. Cat. [00:58:48] Speaker D: Are you picking two or is it just us? [00:58:50] Speaker C: No, just you two. [00:58:51] Speaker A: Okay, good. [00:58:51] Speaker C: It would be unfair if I picked because I know what I. Oh, fair. So. Because I've seen them all unfair. Okay, so we got 15 to spend. [00:58:59] Speaker A: Categories. They're gonna be right. [00:59:01] Speaker C: I'll tell you. [00:59:01] Speaker D: So this is one of those grid graphics. Everybody's seen them, you know, pick your dream team, and there's like a wide quarterb in here. [00:59:08] Speaker A: We trying to. Are we teasing the audience? We need a visual cat. [00:59:12] Speaker C: This is like the way you go on, like, tik tok. You got, like the. You got $15. Yeah. To craft your. Your best NFL week one viewing experience. [00:59:22] Speaker A: Okay. $5 worth of personality. [00:59:24] Speaker C: Round one. [00:59:25] Speaker A: Okay. [00:59:26] Speaker C: Okay. This is where you're gonna watch the game. [00:59:29] Speaker D: Who's drafting first? Who's. Who gets the first pick? [00:59:31] Speaker A: No, you got to hear the cat. What's in the category? [00:59:33] Speaker C: Well, okay, so who. Who. Who gets to pick first? [00:59:36] Speaker D: Should we arm nuzzle? What should we do? Staring contest. [00:59:38] Speaker A: You can go. [00:59:40] Speaker C: Okay. It's going to Snake, though. [00:59:41] Speaker D: It's Marshall. Youngest first. [00:59:43] Speaker A: I already won youngest first. Age before beauty. [00:59:46] Speaker C: I'm going to think of a number between one and eight. What's my number? [00:59:51] Speaker D: I be Marshall's better one. Okay. [00:59:54] Speaker A: 2, 3, 5, 8. [00:59:58] Speaker D: Marshall. [00:59:59] Speaker A: Thank you. You get to go. [01:00:00] Speaker C: Okay, so you get to go first. It's Snake. So you'll start, but then you get, like, back to back. [01:00:05] Speaker A: Back to back. Like the COVID a Lethal Weapon. [01:00:09] Speaker C: All right, so $15 to spend to create. Create your perfect NFL viewing experience. Okay, great. Where is the first category? Where are you going to be watching this game? [01:00:19] Speaker D: Oh, great. I love it. [01:00:20] Speaker C: Are you, for $1, going to watch it through an ESPN app on a play by play. For $2, you're going to watch it on your phone in your car. For $3, you're in your house on a nice couch. [01:00:32] Speaker D: Okay? [01:00:33] Speaker C: It's at home. For $4, you get a rented out movie theater. And for $5, you're at the stadium 50 yard line. What? [01:00:44] Speaker D: Okay, okay, what are the other categories? [01:00:46] Speaker C: I'm not telling you the other categories. This is blind. Yeah, you got to figure it out. 50 yard line, you're taking the stadium 50 yard line. All right, so you're already down $10. [01:01:00] Speaker D: What? [01:01:00] Speaker C: You said that. [01:01:00] Speaker A: You said five. [01:01:01] Speaker C: You said five. That's $5. But you have 15 to spend. [01:01:04] Speaker D: Oh, I'm down to 10. I understand. [01:01:06] Speaker C: You're down. [01:01:06] Speaker D: Proceed, proceed. [01:01:07] Speaker A: All right, I'm going $3 for the. @ my house. [01:01:12] Speaker C: Nice and safe. Nice and safe. [01:01:14] Speaker A: Thank you. Okay, let's hear the next category. [01:01:17] Speaker C: Okay, you got where you're gonna watch it. So who are you gonna watch it with? Okay, okay. [01:01:23] Speaker A: Oh, no, saving my money here. [01:01:26] Speaker D: That's okay. [01:01:26] Speaker C: For $1, Taylor Swift. For $2, Chris Collinsworth and Tony Romo. Okay, for $3, Jameis Winston and Pat McAfee. For $4, the Manning Brothers. [01:01:39] Speaker D: Huh? [01:01:40] Speaker C: And for $5, the Point After. Oh, I had to put that out. [01:01:47] Speaker A: 5. Who's the two dollar again? [01:01:49] Speaker C: Chris Collinsworth and Tony Romo. [01:01:51] Speaker A: I got a feeling you're gonna dominate on the next few. So I'm gonna go $2. [01:01:58] Speaker C: Wow. [01:01:58] Speaker D: Back to B. [01:01:59] Speaker C: Now here's a guy I don't know. [01:02:02] Speaker A: Chris Romo and Collinsworth. [01:02:05] Speaker D: Yeah. Okay, give me Taylor. [01:02:08] Speaker C: Oh, the $1. Yeah, I like it. [01:02:13] Speaker A: Okay. [01:02:13] Speaker C: I like it now. [01:02:14] Speaker A: I thought about, like to back, by the way. So give me a category here, Ian. [01:02:18] Speaker C: So now you have where you're gonna watch your game. You're in, you're in the stadium. [01:02:21] Speaker D: I'm in the stadium at the 50 yard line. Going to be literally on TV. [01:02:26] Speaker C: You're going to be on TV and they're going to see what kind of food you're going to be eating right now. So for food, for $1 choice of any one theater candy item. For $2, you get a party sized bag of chips of your choice with dip. [01:02:44] Speaker D: All right, fine. [01:02:44] Speaker C: For $3, all you can eat hot dogs with whatever toppings you want, man. For $4, you can eat. [01:02:51] Speaker A: Did you hear that part? [01:02:53] Speaker C: You can eat all of those in front of Taylor. Champion for $4. Unlimited wings, traditional or boneless, your choice. With your choice of sauce, a little messy. And $5, any pizza, any topping, no matter how many? [01:03:10] Speaker D: This is stuff you got. I didn't even get dinner tonight. Why do you think I'm eating hummus right now? And Oreos, as I always am during every show. [01:03:15] Speaker C: Dipping the or. Please tell me you dipped the Oreo into the hummus. [01:03:20] Speaker D: I. I would do that. I would do that. [01:03:21] Speaker A: Sponsored. [01:03:22] Speaker D: Hashtag AB The Oreo. Reese's Oreos collab, which is incredible. Absolutely fantastic. I'm loving it. And I'll eat the whole package myself. Anyway. [01:03:33] Speaker C: $9 over the next. Yeah. [01:03:35] Speaker D: How many more categories remain? [01:03:36] Speaker C: This category and the one after it, so. [01:03:38] Speaker D: And the one after. [01:03:40] Speaker C: You have $9 to play with. You have a lot of money here. [01:03:43] Speaker D: I do. This is pretty good. Okay. I don't know if I want to do, like, wings and stuff in front of Taylor, like, while I'm gonna be on tv. I'm gonna be on tv, like, every single commercial break, and I don't want. [01:04:00] Speaker A: You on the chips and the Buffalo chicken dip. [01:04:02] Speaker C: Let's go. You'd have. [01:04:04] Speaker A: Can I have a question before he answers? Could we potentially each have a retroactive ad if we have leftover? [01:04:10] Speaker C: Sure. [01:04:10] Speaker A: Okay. [01:04:11] Speaker C: I'll allow it. [01:04:12] Speaker D: Okay. Okay. If I've got excess money. [01:04:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:04:15] Speaker D: Just give me the candy. [01:04:16] Speaker C: Okay. [01:04:16] Speaker D: I can be generous and share candy for $1. [01:04:19] Speaker A: For $1 answer. All right, I'm going. The wings, $4. I think that wings $4 is better than. [01:04:27] Speaker D: Oh, my gosh. If I was at home, I would take the wings. [01:04:31] Speaker C: Wow. All right. [01:04:32] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:04:32] Speaker C: Now it's the game. We'll game. You watching? Oh, you guys both have enough money, so I think you're gonna dodge some bullets here. [01:04:41] Speaker A: So for $1, I'm guessing Thursday Night Football. Browns and Saints. [01:04:47] Speaker C: You were close. It is $1. Thursday Night Football, Miami Giants. [01:04:54] Speaker A: Hopefully both quarterbacks are injured. [01:04:58] Speaker C: For $2. Monday Night Football, Tampa Bay, Cincinnati Bengals. [01:05:03] Speaker A: I do like Monday Night football. [01:05:04] Speaker D: Nice. [01:05:05] Speaker C: For $3. Playoff game, Kansas City and Buffalo. [01:05:10] Speaker D: Holy cow. [01:05:13] Speaker C: For $4. Lions v Packers on Thanksgiving Day. And then for $5, the Super Bowl. I would personally, I know what I would pick. [01:05:25] Speaker A: Give me the Super Bowl. [01:05:26] Speaker C: Of course. With $1 to spare. [01:05:30] Speaker D: I want to watch the Chiefs game with Taylor. [01:05:32] Speaker C: That would make sense. [01:05:34] Speaker D: Give me that for $3. [01:05:36] Speaker C: And you have $5 left to spend. So because you have. We're snake in the draft. You get the. You get the secondary pick. I know what you should pick. [01:05:47] Speaker D: What should I pick? What should I upgrade? [01:05:49] Speaker C: You don't have to upgrade. You can add on. [01:05:51] Speaker D: Oh, I can add an additional thing. Like, I could have more food or More friends. Oh, I bring the point after. [01:05:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Thank you. [01:05:59] Speaker A: Hello. So I get both of these. [01:06:03] Speaker C: Wow. [01:06:03] Speaker D: You are a winner no matter what. [01:06:04] Speaker A: Thank you. My. [01:06:07] Speaker D: You're not gonna reciprocate, are you? [01:06:10] Speaker A: No, I only have a dollar. You're way. You're worth way more than the dollar. Sorry. I would if I could, but I can't. It's not you, it's me. [01:06:16] Speaker C: You can only afford the Thursday night game. [01:06:19] Speaker A: I'll end the Thursday night football. [01:06:21] Speaker C: You get to go to two games. [01:06:22] Speaker A: I'm a glutton for punishment. Put $6 on a parlay. I'm in. [01:06:25] Speaker D: There we go. [01:06:26] Speaker A: I'm on the under. [01:06:27] Speaker D: How fun. [01:06:27] Speaker A: There you go, Ian. Good category. Nicely done. Good. That was a good segment by you listeners. We want to see if you could think that you built a better one than Kyle or I imagine you were one of us or switch places. What your would your answers be? Send it to the pod. Maybe we'll review them next week. Every week for the last five seasons, we have picked every single game. Each game has a point and we have our locks. It gives us a bonus point. If you lose your lock, you get a minus one and we have an upset pick. Doesn't cost you anything if your team loses. But if you manage to win, you get a bonus point from there. Ian has never won. Ian, you are tied for first place right now. [01:07:12] Speaker C: Strong start. I felt pretty good about it. [01:07:16] Speaker A: We all missed our upsets, all got our locks. Let's hear about next week, though. Let's focus on the future. We're very future oriented around here. [01:07:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:07:22] Speaker A: Ian, hit me with your upset pick of the week. [01:07:25] Speaker C: My upset? [01:07:26] Speaker A: Don't get mad. [01:07:27] Speaker C: Taking the commanders over Green Bay. [01:07:31] Speaker A: Oh, nice, Jaden. [01:07:32] Speaker C: I think these running quarterbacks have given the NFC some fits and I think the commanders might have something to sure to say. [01:07:41] Speaker A: My upset pick. Somehow Miami favored by one and a half. I have the New England Patriots upset pick. Road doggies. [01:07:49] Speaker C: Mike Vrabel get his first W as a pat. [01:07:53] Speaker A: Coach, turn your fingers and start eating the W. All right, let's go, James. [01:08:01] Speaker D: Either of these teams I grabbed. I grabbed a rare opportunity to pick the Chiefs as an underdog. And I'm saying that they're going to upset the Eagles in a Super bowl rematch. [01:08:12] Speaker C: It is a Super bowl rematch. I hope it's more entertaining than the last time they played. [01:08:16] Speaker D: Woof. [01:08:17] Speaker A: I would agree with that. How about your lock, Ian? [01:08:20] Speaker C: I had a really hard. I had a hard time picking my lock because you guys took the two. Well, you took probably the best one. [01:08:26] Speaker A: And I think. [01:08:28] Speaker C: I don't know, I actually don't hate this lock. I'm taking the Rams over the Tennessee Titans. [01:08:33] Speaker A: I like it. My, my lock is Baltimore. They're going to have a big bounce back week. Cleveland, they actually play Cleveland pretty tight consistently. [01:08:41] Speaker D: They have Cleveland Browns beat him last year in one of those matchups. [01:08:45] Speaker A: Cleveland plays Baltimore pretty darn consistent. It's really Cincy in Baltimore. Those Chiefs, I mean the Steelers, they get smoked by pretty consistently. Browns play those Cincy and the Ravens pretty tight. But I got Baltimore. I can't see them losing twice in a row. [01:09:02] Speaker D: I locked in the Niners of the Saints. I think the Niners are still coming up. [01:09:06] Speaker A: The first go for you, huh? [01:09:07] Speaker D: Not worrying about the Niners. Definitely worrying about the Saints. What a dumb organization right now. [01:09:13] Speaker C: Wow. [01:09:13] Speaker D: Very directionless and you were very direct. [01:09:16] Speaker A: In what you just said. [01:09:17] Speaker D: Oh, did I say they were? I'll double down on it. Yeah, they're being run very dumb and don't have much of a bright future. And you should be sad if you're a Saints fan. [01:09:27] Speaker A: Tell me how you really feel. [01:09:28] Speaker D: Yeah, well, you know, maybe they'll get to draft this arch guy next time. [01:09:33] Speaker C: We get to have a conversation about the Bears and see whether or not Ben Johnson is doing wonders over there. Currently, they are winning. If you're watching. If you're watching us right now with. [01:09:43] Speaker A: The pod, I always listen to the pod and watch Monday football after. [01:09:48] Speaker C: Oh, yes. [01:09:49] Speaker A: Oh, yes. Simulcast it during. Love it. Do we know what our stakes are going to be for this? Are we just going to continue? [01:09:57] Speaker C: I. I want my steak. [01:09:59] Speaker D: Okay. Okay. Yeah. We don't have to change what's not broken, listeners. [01:10:03] Speaker A: We're not going to be the podcast that talks consistently about our fantasy football league, but listeners are part of of our fantasy football leagues. Should be set a little bit. [01:10:13] Speaker C: Who's ready to hear? [01:10:15] Speaker D: Hold on. [01:10:15] Speaker A: Instead of giving our weekly breakdown this week, we're going to pause from that because we need Ian to pay the piper because Ian talked a lot. Hey, do we want to have a bet about this? Do we? What? What of us comes in last place? What are you saying, Ian? Have you brainstormed at all or should we put our listeners out on a challenge? They're an hour and 10 minutes into the this pot. They've had 70 minutes of. Just listen to us yammer. His team was trash. It was really bad. [01:10:48] Speaker C: No, you don't have to say. Shut up. I'm well aware that my team was. I'm Just dependent on some more successful Lions playing better. [01:10:57] Speaker A: Wondering if you needed to. [01:10:58] Speaker C: I'm actually not out of this. If DeAndre Swift, by the way, pops off in the second half. [01:11:04] Speaker D: Dream on. Dream on. Stop. [01:11:06] Speaker A: Just stop, buddy. [01:11:08] Speaker C: I could definitely have some sweet emotions about this. I'm not going to, because. [01:11:15] Speaker A: No. No punishment for you. You don't. You don't. Can't. [01:11:18] Speaker C: Oh, no, we should. [01:11:19] Speaker A: I mean, you still are up for this? [01:11:21] Speaker C: As long as it's a reasonable punishment. I don't like the ones. I don't like the ones where it's like, oh, you're gonna have to buy an Aaron Rodgers jersey and you're gonna have to wear it, because that's a lot of money to spend on something that I'm never gonna win. [01:11:34] Speaker A: It's a gag gift. Yeah. I'm in agreement. What about those? [01:11:38] Speaker D: Wow. Marshall, you got the most points of anyone in our league. [01:11:42] Speaker A: Thank you. [01:11:44] Speaker D: Nice. Good job, dude. [01:11:46] Speaker C: He's so cool right now. [01:11:48] Speaker D: Wow. I like this 50, 50 matchup between Rick and Ian's dad, Mr. DeWitt. This is a close matchup. Wow. [01:11:56] Speaker A: Timmy boy, that is nice. And he's on it. [01:11:59] Speaker C: He's. [01:11:59] Speaker D: He's. And he's had Joe Mixon, his starting running back, on the PUP list this whole time. Didn't sub in an active player. And he's still. [01:12:08] Speaker A: Tim never got a great shot. Tim and I were criticizing a certain team who we won't name during the draft. We were just like, we hate when people do that. And then Tim does this. [01:12:21] Speaker C: He does this now, buddy. He does this all the time. [01:12:24] Speaker A: Where was his deal? [01:12:26] Speaker C: He just. I don't think he just doesn't pay enough attention to the. He likes certain players. [01:12:31] Speaker A: Does he just like the draft? Is he, like, a good drafter? He likes the draft. [01:12:35] Speaker C: He had a notebook, so. He had a notebook. [01:12:38] Speaker A: Notes in there and everything. [01:12:39] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:12:40] Speaker C: So he was definitely thinking about what he wanted. And he knew. But then every time someone took a random player back. [01:12:49] Speaker A: I really wanted Stevenson. [01:12:53] Speaker D: Wow. [01:12:53] Speaker A: Good sound effects. Anything else you want to leave with the listeners? [01:12:58] Speaker C: Yeah. Because I missed you. [01:13:01] Speaker D: I missed you, too. [01:13:02] Speaker A: Me, too. [01:13:02] Speaker C: And I hope that as you're listening. [01:13:04] Speaker A: To this. [01:13:07] Speaker C: Sweet nothings into your ear. [01:13:09] Speaker D: Okay. Okay. [01:13:10] Speaker C: I can't wait for you to want. [01:13:12] Speaker A: To thank you for listening to the Point After. [01:13:13] Speaker D: Oh, go on. Go on. [01:13:16] Speaker C: Say more. [01:13:16] Speaker A: Marshall, we want to thank you for listening to the point after. [01:13:25] Speaker C: I have hijacked his microphone, and he doesn't even know what to do. I now have two microphones. [01:13:35] Speaker D: How you like them apples? [01:13:36] Speaker C: How you like them apples? What is he going to do now? Thank you, listeners. [01:13:40] Speaker A: Funny joke. [01:13:43] Speaker D: No one can hear it. [01:13:44] Speaker A: Subscribe. [01:13:47] Speaker C: Review Share if a podcaster tells. [01:13:49] Speaker D: A joke without a mic and no. [01:13:51] Speaker A: One laughs, I'll say it really loud. You ready? Did you know that diarrhea is hereditary? Gosh, it runs in your jeans. [01:14:02] Speaker C: Sydney Sweeney's jeans. [01:14:04] Speaker A: Hubba hubba.