Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to the Point after show with.
[00:00:02] Speaker B: Kyle Maurer, Marshall hesslaw and Ian DeWitt.
[00:00:05] Speaker A: This is the show where the guys.
[00:00:07] Speaker B: Attempt to pick the winners of the weekly NFL games along with some healthy debate about current topics.
[00:00:12] Speaker C: Let's go. That's right.
[00:00:14] Speaker A: You guys believe that Josh Allen controversy from last week?
[00:00:17] Speaker C: Oh, man. It's all the buzz in sports media.
[00:00:20] Speaker B: Everyone's talking about Josh Allen controversy.
[00:00:23] Speaker C: Let's started on this show.
[00:00:24] Speaker A: That was the biggest thing that came out of that game last week.
[00:00:27] Speaker C: Oh, wow. Wow.
[00:00:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:30] Speaker A: Well, Ian Tua.
[00:00:33] Speaker B: We'll get to a tongue of Ayaloa.
[00:00:36] Speaker C: How's it feel to be after week two, approaching week three, we're in the midst of football. I just had this euphoric feeling, gentlemen, this weekend, even though that's just to be expected, but I was just feeling.
[00:00:51] Speaker B: I'm in last, that Ian's in last half is last.
[00:00:53] Speaker C: So these are as they should be.
[00:00:55] Speaker B: Yeah. This is not new.
I try. I feel like I try.
[00:01:01] Speaker A: What do you. What are you getting to here?
[00:01:03] Speaker C: I was just saying that the football was great and it was so great to have football. Everything this weekend was awesome. I was delighted by the outcomes.
[00:01:10] Speaker B: Delighted by the outcomes. Oh, because the packers won.
Whatever. There's a lot of upsets. There's a lot of.
[00:01:19] Speaker C: I thought the results were very interesting. This was an awesome week.
[00:01:22] Speaker B: It was a good week to look at and be like, huh, Interesting.
[00:01:27] Speaker C: I'm bringing a maximum positive energy to this podcast today, and I think that this was one of the best weekends of football that we've had in a long time.
[00:01:35] Speaker B: In a long time.
[00:01:36] Speaker C: It was fantastic.
[00:01:36] Speaker A: Out of the two we've had, Dallas.
[00:01:38] Speaker B: Getting their ass handed to them. I'm always going to be down for that.
[00:01:41] Speaker C: It was pretty funny. That was what's going on here. I love all those. What's happening right now. I love upsets.
[00:01:47] Speaker A: They're great. You like the any given Sunday stuff that I say?
[00:01:50] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think so.
[00:01:52] Speaker A: You liked Brown.
[00:01:55] Speaker C: It's a football game. It's a football game and I'm happy.
[00:01:57] Speaker A: Chargers. Panthers.
[00:01:58] Speaker C: Chargers. Panthers. How about that? Yes.
[00:02:01] Speaker A: That was.
[00:02:02] Speaker B: That was actually.
[00:02:03] Speaker C: Commanders loved it.
[00:02:05] Speaker B: Okay. Seahawks pats was actually a good game, though.
[00:02:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that was actually pretty subpar. But there was a lot. There was 10 games in the.
[00:02:14] Speaker C: Bring all the negativity that you want.
[00:02:16] Speaker A: Don't paint me negative. I'm just realistic. It's okay that you want to be super positive.
[00:02:20] Speaker C: I just loved it. We waited so long for the football season to start, and here it is. And the games are great and outcomes are surprising.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: I'm not going to lie. After the first week, I was like, wow, there's a lot to talk about. And now the second week has happened and I feel like there's even more to talk about.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: Totally.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: Sometimes we hit, like. We hit the, like, a week where it's just like, me. Yeah. Nothing really nothing happened.
[00:02:44] Speaker A: A lot to talk about this week. Speaking of things to talk about, Question of the day. Least favorite home project. Kyle, go ahead. You said you had an answer right away. Let's hear it.
[00:02:52] Speaker C: I've been a homeowner for a long time, and I've done every project you can do in a house, and plumbing is my least favorite.
[00:02:58] Speaker B: Oh, God, Plumbing is awful.
[00:03:00] Speaker C: Plumbing terrible. It's so hard to get it right.
It's so difficult to ensure that there are no leaks anywhere. And it's so easy to make a very costly mistake that ruins not just your day, but your weekend or your week. And I've done that too many times.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: It sucks. I am not a home project kind of person. I did not.
Because none of what else was bringing up one. I'm, like, not great at, like, diying. I did not grow up in a I love you, dad, but I did not grow up in a household where I was taught these things.
[00:03:36] Speaker A: Tim doesn't roll up his, like, suit collared sleeves and. Oh, no dirty.
[00:03:42] Speaker B: Oh, he will.
[00:03:43] Speaker C: Doesn't roll out of it on a Saturday with the tool belt already on.
[00:03:46] Speaker B: Oh, he's got the tool belt on. And the tool belt is a checkbook and a pen.
[00:03:50] Speaker A: It's probably a fanny pack with in there.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: No, I mean, he would do, like, he definitely did stuff in the house, but I was never brought in to.
[00:03:58] Speaker C: Like, you got your attic looking nice.
[00:04:00] Speaker B: We did do that.
[00:04:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:01] Speaker B: I did that with. With a good friend of ours. But least favorite, a friend from work. It was at the time. But my least favorite home project that I dread doing is anything that involves, like, the basement and cobwebs and spiders and bugs. Generally not a big fan. So one of the things we had happen, we had that big rainfall and our basement flooded, so we had to clean everything out. We have in the basement this, like, little, like, cellar room. What's on the crawl space? It's an actual, like, you know, normal size, like, room.
[00:04:41] Speaker C: Right.
[00:04:41] Speaker B: But it's kind of, like, paneled off and there's like, a whole bunch of old electrical stuff that's not plugged in anything. They like when they moved it.
[00:04:48] Speaker C: Right, right.
[00:04:49] Speaker B: We don't keep any. Well, at the time we kept a whole bunch of like spare boxes in there. Well, that flooded, so the boxes were like trashed. There was water in there and like the whole ceiling was just covered in cobwebs. And I spent a good half hour just vacuuming up cobwebs and freaking out because I would get a spider on me. Oh, I hate spiders. I hate.
[00:05:12] Speaker C: Spiders are tough. I hated with spiders is terrible.
[00:05:16] Speaker A: Spiders are good. Keep away the mosquitoes.
[00:05:18] Speaker B: There's nothing wrong for them, for the ecosystem. I just wish they didn't bother me and they generally won't bother me. But when they do, when I see them, they're bothering.
[00:05:28] Speaker C: We've got an excessive number.
[00:05:29] Speaker B: It's too many legs.
[00:05:31] Speaker C: Too many. And they're huge. We've got the monster.
[00:05:33] Speaker A: What's the right amount jumbos?
[00:05:35] Speaker C: The 50 cent pieces.
[00:05:36] Speaker B: Four is like. If you're going over four maximum legs.
[00:05:41] Speaker C: Four is the maximum legs. Oh, wow, that's interesting. Did you hear about the George R.R. martin frustration?
[00:05:47] Speaker A: Like the dragons.
[00:05:48] Speaker C: The dragons, yeah.
[00:05:50] Speaker B: What was the.
[00:05:50] Speaker C: I didn't hear this because George R. Was critical of the new House of the Dragons show because an emblem I think has a dragon with four legs and two wings.
[00:05:59] Speaker A: Oh, I saw a whole bunch of.
[00:06:02] Speaker B: Drama about this, but I didn't read it.
[00:06:04] Speaker C: And he's just mad. Going on a rant about how like there's no creature in just like on.
[00:06:09] Speaker A: A random blog that exists.
[00:06:11] Speaker B: I heard about the block. Like I. I didn't read the blog post, but I heard that he was upset.
[00:06:15] Speaker A: Imagine your blog gets a random comment from George R. Barn. You gotta be going crazy.
Needs two legs done for. I'm writing this comment instead of finishing my book.
[00:06:27] Speaker C: Exactly. Shut up, George.
[00:06:29] Speaker A: Hate him.
[00:06:29] Speaker C: Finish.
[00:06:30] Speaker B: Too busy doing all the partying.
[00:06:32] Speaker A: My least favorite home project is any of them because I am legitimately sitting here since this has been put in the dock. I don't think I have done a single home project since I have owned it.
[00:06:42] Speaker C: That's not true. No, false, true.
[00:06:44] Speaker B: When you moved in, you did your entire. You redid the backyard.
[00:06:48] Speaker C: Yeah, but yeah, landscaping. That counts. Oh, outdoor counts.
[00:06:52] Speaker A: But I like that. I don't. I have not done a single thing inside my house.
[00:06:57] Speaker B: You had to clean the basement.
[00:06:59] Speaker A: That shop vaccine after a flood is not.
[00:07:02] Speaker B: That's a whole project. I mean it's not like the ideal.
[00:07:05] Speaker C: One, but I would require installed a smart speaker. So. Yeah, good job.
[00:07:11] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:07:12] Speaker C: You put up shelves.
[00:07:13] Speaker B: We're trying to. We're trying to give you some credit Here.
[00:07:16] Speaker A: No, I just don't. It's like kind of like a weird flex that I haven't. That's not really a flex. Like, what'd you do to the house? Like, nothing. The spare room still has pink walls and pink carpet. Why isn't it pulled? Because it's fine, right?
[00:07:30] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay.
[00:07:32] Speaker A: Because nobody uses that spare and really cares.
[00:07:34] Speaker B: Well, there you go.
[00:07:35] Speaker A: Let's talk some NFL guys. All right, let's hear some hot takes, some Twitter prompts. I'm going to get Ian kind of lit up to start.
[00:07:41] Speaker C: I want to let listeners to the POD know that if you ever want to just respond to some of our questions and your takes when you write us, that's fine too.
[00:07:49] Speaker B: You can say we have a bad take.
[00:07:51] Speaker A: I want to hear at home project.
[00:07:53] Speaker C: We want to hear what's. What you would have on tap in your house if you. I would magical tap.
[00:07:57] Speaker B: I would actively encourage you drinking. Tell us that we have a bad take on something, but just be prepared to defend it because we are known to get heated.
[00:08:07] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, we love it.
[00:08:08] Speaker A: You never know.
[00:08:09] Speaker C: Ruffle our feathers.
[00:08:10] Speaker A: Going to spark us.
[00:08:11] Speaker B: You got so mad about Josh Allen.
[00:08:14] Speaker C: Josh Allen.
[00:08:15] Speaker A: Screw him. All right. Jamie Heslow writes in Lions win week one despite the play of golf and inherently lose week two because of his ineptitude. Should the Lions be concerned with this quarterback play just yet? Now that they have high expectation the blame will come fast. This is also one week removed from Ian saying, I would take golf.
[00:08:42] Speaker B: Yeah, he has not played his best ball the last two weeks. But here's the thing. If you've watched enough Lions game in the past two years when they've really like come online on which I have, golf has these kinds of games all the time where the goof shows up and not the golf and Jared Goof. There is more evidence to suggest that the Lions offense is going to figure it out than to suggest the worst that they're not going to. Because it's the same offensive coordinator. You have relatively the same O line, the same running backs, most of the same receiver room, the same quarterback. The entire offense is almost the exact same from last year where it was ranked second in efficiency. They had a couple bad games last year. I think that happens.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: What do you think about the halftime miscue? That doesn't happen a lot in the NFL. That happens a lot in college. You know, time management isn't always the best. But to miss out on three points.
[00:09:42] Speaker B: That was pretty bad. And I was glad that Dan Campbell owned up to it as like his mistake. But it really wasn't really say that.
[00:09:49] Speaker A: It was his fault because he kept saying it was the coach's fault. He never really said.
[00:09:53] Speaker B: No.
[00:09:54] Speaker A: He said he was so mad that he made the mistake that I heard part of my take make the joke that they were like, he was so upset with himself, he couldn't even say, I made the mistake. He keeps just saying, yeah, the coach just made a bad mistake. You know, the coach. The coach wasn't watching the time, the coat. And I'm like, he's having a really hard time with this. So hard. He cannot, like, say himself, which I just think is kind of funny.
[00:10:15] Speaker B: But he did.
[00:10:16] Speaker A: Oh, I know. It's more just comical that, like, the phrasing he's having of this, he is stuck on. No.
[00:10:21] Speaker B: Even in the middle of the interview, who said, that's on me? He, like, said, that's on me.
[00:10:26] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:10:27] Speaker B: So he's taking ownership of it. And maybe it was partly his fault because he was trying to. I think they were trying to get greedy, but at a point in the game where your offense is moving the ball, for the most part, relatively well done the field. They were one for seven in the red zone. One for fucking seven. That's really bad. Which is actually the complete opposite of last year.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: What they were last year was a very strong red zone team.
[00:10:55] Speaker B: I think it was very clear. Him as a coach was just like, we need to get points. We need to turn this into a touchdown. I think they wanted to.
I think golf maybe made a poor decision, but half of the problem was you had the field goal unit coming on, so they were trying to spike the ball, and the field goal unit started coming on because they thought. But I was like, come on, guys. So it was, I think, very rushed and panicked mode, which could have definitely handled better. But honestly, even removing that play, this is something that no one's really talking about. The lines right now is their defense kept them in that game.
Hutch, four and a half sacks.
[00:11:37] Speaker A: Absolutely one sack away from the record for the Lions.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: Just crazy good.
The secondary is much improved.
[00:11:45] Speaker A: He's on pace for 42 sacks in a year.
[00:11:47] Speaker B: I love that.
I didn't really mention it last week, but when the Lions beat the Rams, they punted that ball away with four minutes left in that game when they were losing, they never would have done that last year. Never in a million years would you have seen them punt last year with four minutes left when they're losing, because their defense would have been like Swiss cheese.
[00:12:12] Speaker A: Sure. And even this year they did the fake punt. That was a great. The fake punt was great.
[00:12:18] Speaker B: Too bad they had to eventually punt the next three and out. That they did on that drive because they couldn't move the ball. But I. The. The offense is there, the pieces are there.
[00:12:28] Speaker A: Mikhail's talked about how the Lions are streaky. Not streaky game to game, but like within the game. Yeah, they are a streaky team. And this time it bit them.
[00:12:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it did. And I'm hoping. I'm not worried yet.
[00:12:40] Speaker A: All this to answer week two. It's week two last year. What? You were one on one going through week two. You're not worried?
[00:12:47] Speaker B: I'm not worried yet.
[00:12:48] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:12:49] Speaker B: Like five games in and it's still. The offense. Still looks like that. Yeah. Then I'm going to be worried.
[00:12:54] Speaker A: All right, Kyle, how about this stat? You ready for it?
No team has ever won the super bowl and lost to Kirk Cousins.
[00:13:02] Speaker C: Interesting statistic.
[00:13:05] Speaker B: Say that again.
[00:13:05] Speaker A: No team has ever won the super bowl that's lost to Kirk Cousins. That stats from Jamie Haslaw.
[00:13:10] Speaker C: You mean in the same season?
[00:13:11] Speaker B: Kirk Cousins is like the gatekeeper.
[00:13:13] Speaker A: Yeah. So Philly not allowed to win the super bowl this year.
[00:13:16] Speaker C: Oh yeah.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: I mean I wasn't expecting them to anyways though.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: But think about it, right? No team ever.
[00:13:22] Speaker B: I love that for Cousins.
[00:13:23] Speaker C: Yeah, that's.
[00:13:24] Speaker B: I, I was so happy that they won last night.
[00:13:27] Speaker C: I kind of loved it.
[00:13:28] Speaker B: I love.
[00:13:29] Speaker A: Did you like that they had the, the taunting flag that basically made the extra point into like a 50 yard field goal to win the game?
[00:13:36] Speaker C: Yep. That was awesome.
[00:13:38] Speaker A: It's pretty impressive.
[00:13:39] Speaker C: Yeah. Because he did the choo choo choo choo.
[00:13:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Shooting guns.
[00:13:43] Speaker B: Kind of a. Yeah, not a great idea right now.
[00:13:45] Speaker C: Yeah, not great. Not great. But that two minute drive, that final drive. Oh, I think of beauty.
[00:13:51] Speaker B: That game reminded me though why I am so happy the Lions did not resign CJ Gardner Johnson. I can't stand that dude. He's a prick. Really arrogant.
He punched somebody in the middle of the game.
[00:14:07] Speaker C: Oh my gosh.
[00:14:08] Speaker B: He. He punched somebody.
[00:14:10] Speaker A: Imagine if he stepped on him with the nuts.
[00:14:12] Speaker B: He didn't punch somebody. Someone punched him because they. He stole something from somebody on the field. He took somebody's mouth guard and then he has the audacity to get like to make a play that could have potentially ended the game, throw his helmet off in celebration and then complain to the ref I didn't do it and fucking win. They picked up the flag and then you look at the replay and he is clearly Throwing his helmet off.
I can't stand that dude. I hated when he was on the field taunting all the time because then it just bit him in the ass when they lost. I'm so happy they lost.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: Jamie, you got it. We got him fired up, but it was not with your question. No, him just thinking about the Eagles. All right, let's talk a little bit about Katie Baltadano writes in Thoughts on the lack of passing touchdowns throughout the.
[00:15:03] Speaker C: Can we come back to this question? I was getting some stats for it to answer it better.
[00:15:07] Speaker A: Can we skip to it? We'll move over to Claire. Claire writes in only five players has have opted to wear guardian caps for the year. Why are more players not wearing this and will we see an increase after tua?
[00:15:21] Speaker C: Mmm, fascinating.
[00:15:23] Speaker A: I didn't see the video of Travis Kelsey wearing one during the off season.
[00:15:29] Speaker B: They do look ridiculous.
[00:15:30] Speaker A: And what guy came over goes, it looks like you're kind of like shrinking inside the helmet. It's like the kid from Little Giant.
[00:15:38] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm stuck in here. I can't get out.
[00:15:42] Speaker A: And I just thought that that's funny. I think it's the optics of what it looks like people goofy. But there's like, will it. I don't know if that's going to change it, unfortunately. I don't.
I just don't. I think people see that and say that that can't. That is very unlikely to happen to me. And they won't.
[00:15:59] Speaker B: Yeah, some. Some of it is. I think that. And some of it is. I think a lot of these players obsess.
Maybe not obsess, but do like a certain look. I think they are like, I gotta have my. My game fit.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: And they gotta look a certain very superstitious. A little stitches.
[00:16:17] Speaker B: Right. So they wear shoes that are like. Sometimes they wear shoes that are like super flashy. And then they have like random like the eye black in weird ways just because it's like war paint almost to them, which is like all of it's fine. I don't care. But it's like putting an armband on one arm but not the other. It's like ridiculous stuff like that for sure. I think some of them is. It's just like a. It's a fit. They look goofy.
[00:16:45] Speaker A: What do you think, Kyle?
[00:16:48] Speaker C: Well, I agree with you guys.
[00:16:51] Speaker B: I think there's a future though where.
[00:16:53] Speaker C: I think people like. There is a funny element where people. Players really don't want to look goofy.
[00:16:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:59] Speaker C: Like the basketball player who through granny style free throws.
[00:17:02] Speaker A: Rick Barry.
[00:17:03] Speaker C: Rick Barry. And was like the best free throw shooter in the history of the game. But no other player will do that because it looks goofy.
[00:17:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:11] Speaker C: So looking. Looking not goofy is more important than being good.
[00:17:15] Speaker B: I do see a future where they maybe figure out a way to make them look a little not goofy and make a mandatory. Though I do see a future for.
[00:17:27] Speaker C: Them that very much could happen because.
[00:17:28] Speaker B: They'Re already mandatory during off camp.
[00:17:30] Speaker C: Like off season camp, when you're spending in the hundreds of millions on an individual protecting their brain.
[00:17:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:38] Speaker C: It's kind of important. Might be a little bitty.
[00:17:40] Speaker B: Because the last thing they want. Because I don't feel like we have a lot of tool questions on here so we can just talk about it. The last thing that the NFL wants is to watch that every Sunday.
They don't want that on tv.
[00:17:56] Speaker A: For those of you that didn't watch Tuatanga Bailua concussion Thursday night Football, national television only game we're all watching it has paralysis on the field with his fingers, second time that's happened. He's now been placed on the ir. He'll be out at least four weeks.
He has no plans to retire. From what he has said after, you know, this past year, I heard an interview that had him talking about how his mom, after the second or the last, not this past one, but the one before the last concussion, talked about her coming up to him and saying, I want you to retire. And he said, I'm not doing that.
[00:18:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
That's like a.
At the end of the day, no one can make that decision for him.
He's got to make it for himself. And this is like where I don't.
If. Even if Miami was like, we don't have like the conscience to play you. They will play him when he's back.
[00:18:53] Speaker A: But because it's a business.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: Yeah. At the end of the day, it's like they're going to let him make his decision and they are going to come off, I think right now looking pretty good because they're saying we're putting you on the ir so you're not going to be back until week eight at the earliest. I think that's what the official report that I saw was.
[00:19:14] Speaker A: Including thereby. Yeah.
[00:19:15] Speaker B: Yeah. So he won't be back till week eight. So you have all this time to get right. You can see your neurologist, you can take this time for yourself and then you can come back.
So they're going to look like they did their due diligence and they'll just let him play. But I Was like, thinking about this, I'm like, well, what if Miami really was like, we don't want to put you back out there and have that happen again? Like, could they just say, like, no, we're going to play someone else and we're not going to put you out there?
[00:19:40] Speaker A: Like, contract wise, they could, but they'd still have to pay him.
[00:19:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
I would be curious what their response would be publicly if they decided, we're not going to play you.
[00:19:50] Speaker A: Yeah. I just. I don't know if I see the NFL team having a moral stand like that because it is such a business.
But the only. There's only one way he could get that money, and it would be if he was medically retired, the NFL. But if he said, I don't want to play and retired himself, he would not get that money.
[00:20:10] Speaker C: There could be a. There could be a.
[00:20:11] Speaker A: Which might be why. Dispute between him.
[00:20:13] Speaker B: And I thought, how many concussions has he had in the league so far?
[00:20:17] Speaker A: At least three.
[00:20:18] Speaker B: At least three.
[00:20:19] Speaker C: Because I thought he officially confirmed.
[00:20:22] Speaker A: Sure. Like, it was suspected very publicly. 3. Very public that I can remember.
[00:20:27] Speaker C: He's the face of concussion in the league.
[00:20:30] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:20:30] Speaker A: I mean. Yeah. Right now. I mean, I think behind him would probably be, like, Antonio Brown. He's been like a different person after he got hit by Vontes. Perfect.
[00:20:38] Speaker B: Yeah, there was. So I thought. I remember that when the Lions had Javid Best, that it was like a forced retirement.
It wasn't. I guess the NFL didn't actually force him to retire because he had three.
[00:20:53] Speaker A: Concussions, but he had a couple in college, too.
[00:20:55] Speaker C: Right.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: That really influenced why he fell in the draft.
[00:20:58] Speaker B: The Lions, despite how good he was, actively didn't bring him back, though. They actually were like, we're not putting you back out there. Which I thought was an interesting move. And then Javid Best ended up suing the NFL. I don't know if he won.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: And it might be because of how running backs are interchangeable in the NFL. So I don't think that's happening as much with tua.
[00:21:22] Speaker B: No, probably not.
[00:21:23] Speaker A: So I'll be able to figure that out when Skyler Thompson's on the field.
[00:21:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:28] Speaker A: And they signed Tyler Huntley from the practice squad of the Ravens Pro Bowl. Tyler Hunter, Tyler Huntley, Miami.
[00:21:34] Speaker B: Tannehill's out there. Ryan sitting on a couch. Is he better than the other two? I don't know. But would he go back to Miami?
[00:21:42] Speaker A: They've been having the Ryan Tannehill question for a decade and a half at least. So it's I'm glad they're finally having it again. Let's hear from Elliot. Aceto last week said, Marvin Harrison bust, question mark. This week Marvin Harrison ain't a bust. That's his take.
[00:21:58] Speaker B: I thought the overreaction from the media about Marvin Harris Harrison, Harrison being like a bust after one week because his top Speed was like 16, which was.
[00:22:13] Speaker A: Like ranked like way down for the Saints this week. That ran 17 miles an hour. To cut to black for a screen.
[00:22:21] Speaker B: By the way, that's terrifying. But I just thought the overreaction when I'm like, dude, this is. He didn't even get the ball thrown towards him. Like, why are we freaking out about Marvin Harrison Jr. Being a bust right now?
And the guy pops off and he's, you know, kind of scary.
[00:22:41] Speaker C: That was incredible.
[00:22:42] Speaker A: I just hope we get a weekly segment from or take from Elliot that's only about Marvin Harrison being a buster.
[00:22:48] Speaker B: I can't wait till next week after they play the Lions. Marvin Harrison a bust.
[00:22:52] Speaker A: Harrison, whatever. Harrison, he is one of the best wide receivers, like drafted in a very long time. Highly prospect. Let's get his name right. All right.
[00:23:01] Speaker B: He's a bust though.
[00:23:01] Speaker A: I have something to tell you guys. Ryan Gates and Eric Giannunzio, within a five minute span, both sent me the same take.
[00:23:09] Speaker C: That's amazing. What is it? I'm dying to know.
[00:23:12] Speaker A: I need you to rank these three quarterbacks. And they gave me the same three quarterbacks.
[00:23:16] Speaker B: What?
[00:23:17] Speaker A: Not even kidding. I sent the text to both of them like, oh my gosh, one of you just said something that the other said. They couldn't believe it. Sam Darnold, Derek Carr, Baker Mayfield.
[00:23:27] Speaker C: Rank them, rank them.
[00:23:29] Speaker B: I'm putting Sam Darnold last for sure.
[00:23:32] Speaker C: Agreed.
[00:23:33] Speaker A: This first and second, I think is a lot harder than what we think lately.
Yeah.
[00:23:37] Speaker B: Because if I go just based on this year.
[00:23:41] Speaker A: Derek Carr.
[00:23:42] Speaker B: Carr. 100% because he is insane right now.
But I like Baker.
[00:23:50] Speaker A: You got a Baker?
[00:23:51] Speaker C: Doesn't look bad.
[00:23:52] Speaker B: I do have a soft spot for Baker. Baker's looked great. Even last year with the Bucks he looked pretty good.
[00:23:57] Speaker A: He just kind of has your heart though.
[00:23:58] Speaker B: He does. He does. I thought they Cleveland did him dirty. And I've always liked Baker.
[00:24:04] Speaker C: I mean, he's like the quintessential. Like performs best with a chip on his shoulder.
[00:24:11] Speaker B: Yeah. He's got a lot of grit to him that I really like.
[00:24:15] Speaker A: Lions grit.
[00:24:16] Speaker B: Lions grit.
[00:24:17] Speaker C: Yeah. I think I could see him in a Lions.
[00:24:19] Speaker B: I could too, actually. I was actually just thinking about that I was like, he is like a Dan Campbell type.
[00:24:26] Speaker C: Come back to the Midwest, dude. Come on.
[00:24:28] Speaker B: He is a Dan Campbell type of player.
[00:24:30] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:30] Speaker B: Low key.
[00:24:31] Speaker A: I might.
[00:24:31] Speaker B: I might like that.
[00:24:32] Speaker C: Right?
[00:24:33] Speaker A: I don't think it's low key anymore. Who do you got first there, Kyle?
[00:24:37] Speaker B: You know, I think I answered, by the way, who I'm putting first? It's Baker. I'd put Baker first.
[00:24:42] Speaker C: You're putting Baker first. Okay. Just for the. Just for the. In making it interesting, I'll put Derek Carr first. I think he's a very experienced. He's only four years older than Baker, but a veteran player, enormous production.
[00:24:56] Speaker B: He was good with the situation. I was tempted to put him first because I think overall his performance, even with the Raiders, now with the Saints, I think he's more consistent.
He's got a really good deep ball.
[00:25:10] Speaker C: And he's looking like this year he's really addressing the issues that have been known and the criticisms about him.
[00:25:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:17] Speaker C: You know, that he couldn't take pressure.
[00:25:19] Speaker B: I would probably normally put Derek Carr before.
[00:25:23] Speaker A: Ryan Gates also wrote in a question for us because I mentioned, hey, that's the same thing somebody else said. So he came up with a little take about Aaron Jones. He said, I love Aaron Jones so much as a Texas packers fan. They're from Texas. Right. He's probably one of my top five packers of all time. Wow. That game Sunday showed why moving on from him to a younger legs was the right move. 32 carries for Jacobs and he was ready to play a whole third half.
[00:25:54] Speaker B: This is. We might as well talk about Green Bay at the same time then, because.
[00:25:58] Speaker A: Upset reading the Colts with Malik Wallace.
[00:26:02] Speaker C: Beautiful.
[00:26:02] Speaker B: Rick Baxter.
Rick Baxter writes in, will Green Bay win no matter who's at qb or are they that deep at the QB position?
I'm going to say no, they're not.
[00:26:14] Speaker C: That deep at the Malik Willis they only acquired like a month ago.
[00:26:17] Speaker B: Right. And I don't think they won that game because of Jacobs. Not because of.
[00:26:22] Speaker A: I think they won that game because of Matt LaFleur.
[00:26:24] Speaker B: No. Can we put some respect on him?
[00:26:26] Speaker C: He is not appreciated enough for his coaching ability.
[00:26:31] Speaker B: No. I was going to say. I actually think one of the reasons Green Bay will still be competitive throughout the year is because Matt LaFleur is really good coach.
[00:26:41] Speaker C: It's becoming quite clear.
[00:26:42] Speaker B: It's very obvious because he swapped from a Hall of Famer to Jordan Love.
[00:26:48] Speaker C: A Hall of Famer, who we're really appreciating now was probably very hard to coach even when he was playing at the top of the. Yeah, the pecking order.
[00:26:56] Speaker A: So smug.
[00:26:57] Speaker C: My goodness. Being his coach and putting and making that basically the best team in football multiple seasons and then moving on and clearly incredible success.
[00:27:07] Speaker B: Clearly trying to control the team. I think as soon as he got to the jets it was very obvious that Aaron Rogers was in charge over there.
[00:27:15] Speaker C: The jets experience has really like reflected a little bit on Matt LaFleur and made many of us say, wow, gosh, LaFleur really was dealing with a lot.
[00:27:24] Speaker B: No. So clearly I do agree. I think Matt LaFleur is an amazing coach, which is why Green Bay still scares me. But I am not going to say their QB position is like solved no matter who's at qb because eventually you need a competent quarterback. You can't just run the ball all the time. They're going to the certain teams will just call you bluff.
[00:27:50] Speaker C: I'm 100% with you. I think that this is an impressive team. I'm very impressed with the packers with this young squad.
[00:27:55] Speaker A: That's a coaching win though.
[00:27:57] Speaker C: This is a coaching win.
[00:27:58] Speaker B: A great.
[00:27:59] Speaker C: I have a lot of examples this this season and recent seasons of them over achieving and that really reflects a lot on coaching but a lot on this young talent. I think they've drafted pretty well, but I don't think that that sort of success is what could put you into the upper echelon in the league and make you truly long term competitive. But you can eke out wins here and there that are surprising like this one.
[00:28:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree 100%.
[00:28:26] Speaker A: I just like the take and I like that we have a different person that's a Packers fan other than Kyle talking about the Packers. So I just like to kind of pivot on that and own it. We have a take that came in that we're going to kind of address right now that comes from Katie Baltodano. And Justin Matson also touched this as well. But Katie Baltodano writes in thoughts on the lack of passing touchdowns throughout the first two weeks. It's the lowest number in 10 years.
And Justin Matson also writes in we see four or more quarterbacks throw four touchdowns next week. There's more than 19 fewer passing touchdowns league wide as of right right now in the second game of the season compared to where it was week two last season, I think that we see a regression to the mean. A Garnet Hogger regression to the mean. That was our statistics teacher back at Spring Harbor. Shout out to Spring Harbor Cougars. He has Gino, Josh Allen, Kyler and Andy Dalton. Throwing four touchdowns next week.
[00:29:25] Speaker C: Oh, Andy Dalton.
[00:29:26] Speaker B: I don't know about that one.
[00:29:27] Speaker C: Wow. How fun would that be? Let's like, let's make Andy Dalton the Joe Flacco of this season.
[00:29:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw. I was looking for this stat when I saw Katie. Katie Baltadano type this out. I was looking for the stat when I saw this. But it's. There is a serious trend in the last.
[00:29:47] Speaker A: I have it right here.
[00:29:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:48] Speaker A: From 2019. 105, 2020, 110, 2021, 110. It's going down 22, 105 now. You ready for this? Last year 86. This year 69.
[00:29:59] Speaker C: In terms of touchdowns. Through two weeks. Through two weeks offensive.
[00:30:02] Speaker A: So this is just. Yeah, through two weeks passing touchdowns.
[00:30:07] Speaker B: But that does.
And it kind of matches with visually what you watch in football right now is that you have a lot more quarterbacks who are mobile and are able to open the positions up for running games a lot more. And I think we're starting to see a transition to more as. All right, we got to get to the end zone and then we have this quarterback who can maybe run it in or I give it to my back because there's a lot of premier backs out there right now.
That feels like I watch when I hear that, but it is. And I watch the game.
[00:30:46] Speaker C: Well, I mean that's. I think that's a hypothesis that has maybe some credence. I don't know that there's a greater.
[00:30:54] Speaker A: Let's hear from you. You've been digging in numbers over there. Yeah.
[00:30:57] Speaker C: I don't know if the ratio of like dual threat quarterbacks is much greater right now than it was in the past. Maybe that fluctuates a little bit.
[00:31:04] Speaker B: I would say dual threat quarterbacks is the norm right now.
Jalen Hurts can.
[00:31:10] Speaker C: I mean it's.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: I, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, I feel.
[00:31:14] Speaker C: Like it's like a third or less.
[00:31:17] Speaker A: I want you to look through next.
[00:31:18] Speaker B: But. But that's more than like when we were growing up, sure. Most of the quarterbacks were pocket passers.
[00:31:24] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:31:25] Speaker C: There's more than like when I was a kid, for us, when you saw the total yards and offense earned, usually it was basically 50. 50 pass and run.
[00:31:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:38] Speaker C: Over the course, very. The averages, you know, running backs were getting 100 plus yards in a game very commonly now it's much more rare. And quarterbacks were passing for much fewer yards on average. So it was, it was a bit.
[00:31:51] Speaker A: The Charger just had a back to back week of 100 yards rushing. That hasn't happened in six years for them.
[00:31:57] Speaker C: See, that's incredible. What the stat that I'm looking at that actually strongly correlates and actually I believe that this is the most compelling diagnosis.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:32:10] Speaker C: Yeah. That's quarterback age. They're younger than ever right now and they've been trending a little bit younger. And so the trend Looking at since 2002, average quarterback age has been like 29, 30, 29, 28, 30, 29, 29 and so on. Basically in like the 2930 range forever. Well, at least going back to 2002 until we had about a five year stretch of like low 29 on average. And then in 2023 it got down to the high 27. For this is the average starting quarterback in the league. And this year it's in the low 27.
So it's. I mean, that doesn't sound like a big difference, but it still is by a couple of years.
[00:33:00] Speaker A: I have names. That is a.
[00:33:01] Speaker B: By a couple years.
[00:33:02] Speaker C: It's the lowest number that we've seen in this century.
[00:33:06] Speaker B: I have this image in my head now when you're like, they're younger than ever. Like all we had. I just have that. Well, I know, but I had this image of like in my head of like this old guy just like smoking a joint while he's smoking a cigarette, while he's hucking a bar, a ball halfway down the field.
[00:33:22] Speaker C: I don't know, when you look at.
[00:33:23] Speaker B: The image in my head of just like.
[00:33:27] Speaker C: That'S hilarious, cartoonish.
But when you look across all the teams with their starting quarterbacks, there's a much smaller number who are real veterans like that.
[00:33:40] Speaker A: Most of them are in history.
[00:33:41] Speaker C: In history, a lot a greater percentage of the starters were more proven, more like in their 30s, more established quarterbacks. We lived through eras where year after year we've got Roethlisberger and Brees and Brady and Rogers and Philip Rivers, Peyton Manning and all of those. And a lot of those quarterbacks are playing well into their 30s. And this year we've got like a total number of seven quarterbacks who are starting who are in their 30s, or in the case of Rogers, in his 40s.
[00:34:15] Speaker B: Sorry.
[00:34:17] Speaker C: So that's, I mean, seven are plus 37 out of the whole NFL. And that I think this says a lot. Like we have inexperienced players under center more than we have had in history. And that was the case last year too, when we had that historically low number 86. And we got even younger this year we got that number even lower. Part of that touchdowns Part of that.
[00:34:42] Speaker B: Part of that might even be because what a lot of teams are trying to emulate is we got to get a young quarterback on a rookie deal and surround him with different times of talent.
[00:34:53] Speaker A: I think both points are really fair. I never thought of either of them, to be honest with you.
[00:34:57] Speaker C: The correlation is very strong. Like, if you were to chart this, you would see that, like, as the average age comes, as we see fewer experienced quarterbacks, inexperienced quarterbacks, we see fewer passing touch.
[00:35:07] Speaker B: Plus we have a lot of just bad rookie quarterbacks right now.
[00:35:13] Speaker C: We do.
[00:35:13] Speaker B: They're really bad this year.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: All four haven't had a touchdown pass.
[00:35:17] Speaker C: That's crazy.
[00:35:18] Speaker B: Even some of the ones from last year.
[00:35:20] Speaker C: That's crazy.
[00:35:21] Speaker B: Yeah. I think Stroud's the only one from last year that you're like, okay, even to.
[00:35:27] Speaker C: I mean, yeah, most draft classes might have one who, like, really stands out. And the average performance, like, for a starting quarterback, a quarterback who starts in their rookie year is like the 26th best quarterback. That's the average where they actually end up at the end of the season.
[00:35:44] Speaker B: Where is Caleb Williams right now? Like, dead fucking last?
[00:35:48] Speaker C: Worse than that. Nah. No, Bryce Young, That's a pressing competition.
[00:35:54] Speaker A: Rick Baxter writes in. Bryce Young, bench, question mark. Andy Dalton, Red Rifle.
[00:35:58] Speaker C: I feel so sad for the guy, for the kid. Bryce Young.
[00:36:02] Speaker B: Is it.
[00:36:02] Speaker C: Is it too bad? Poor guy.
[00:36:04] Speaker B: I mean, he's not into a team. Team.
[00:36:07] Speaker C: Terrible team.
[00:36:07] Speaker A: It's the.
[00:36:08] Speaker C: It's terrible team, at least.
[00:36:09] Speaker B: Terrible, terrible owner. Because the owner is known to metal too much.
[00:36:13] Speaker C: Way too much.
[00:36:14] Speaker A: It's funny that he's known to metal and I think he's only been their owner for like two and a half, three years.
[00:36:19] Speaker C: More than that. More than that. But yes, he. Well, yeah, it's been. I don't know how long has.
[00:36:25] Speaker A: How long is Tepper been?
[00:36:26] Speaker C: When, you know, when did Tepper.
[00:36:28] Speaker A: I think it's only been a little bit, but it is. It is a sad moment. Well, and we'll talk a little bit more about the Bengals later.
[00:36:34] Speaker C: Yeah, they bought him in 2018. So, you know, we're going into the sixth or seventh season.
[00:36:38] Speaker B: Here's the thing about the Panthers. I mean, they had to do something, though. I mean, I feel bad for Bryce Young, but they had. They have to do something. They have. They had tickets opening day for a dollar, like 30, just to get people in the seats.
[00:36:55] Speaker C: So if you were a football player, would you rather be Bryce Young or Trey? Lance.
[00:37:02] Speaker A: Trey, Bryce.
[00:37:03] Speaker B: I forgot about Trey.
[00:37:04] Speaker C: You'd rather be Bryce because he Got to play and fail.
[00:37:07] Speaker A: If again, better hairline.
[00:37:09] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:37:10] Speaker A: Significant. Google it later. This is the part where you pause the podcast and just Google Trey Lance's hairline.
[00:37:17] Speaker C: Don't like it.
[00:37:18] Speaker A: He needs to come home.
[00:37:19] Speaker B: Trey Lance never.
I kind. I feel worse for Trey Lance because he never got an opportunity and he got dumped so fast and everyone kept trashing on him and I'm like, he played what, half a game at best before he got injured and Brock Purdy came in.
[00:37:39] Speaker A: He had a. He had. It's a riddle that he had four interceptions in the fourth quarter and was still in the game in a last preseason game for the Cowboys.
He's. It's an insane. It's insane.
[00:37:52] Speaker B: So clearly he wasn't good. But I. I don't know. You never.
[00:37:55] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:37:56] Speaker B: You never really.
[00:37:56] Speaker A: There were some surprises, though. This past week we had four upsets in the 1 o'clock window. And Rick Baxter also writes in what's wrong with the Ravens and are the Saints contenders.
[00:38:06] Speaker C: Saints are looking to make the play. They are definitely in the playoffs.
[00:38:11] Speaker B: You do not score. Okay, so the first week they played Carolina.
So they put up 44 points against probably a team that scored 44, 44.
[00:38:21] Speaker A: And 47 and 49 in the last four games.
[00:38:24] Speaker B: So that's from last year then.
[00:38:25] Speaker A: Yeah. 10 the season.
[00:38:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
Clearly they're very explosive.
I will.
I'm not ready to buy stock on the Saints just yet. It's too early.
[00:38:37] Speaker A: It's too early.
[00:38:38] Speaker C: I wish I had Alvin Camara on my fantasy team.
[00:38:41] Speaker A: Shout out to Marco, our nine year old friend.
[00:38:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:38:45] Speaker B: Who's probably gonna win our league.
[00:38:46] Speaker A: I only pray that he wins.
[00:38:48] Speaker C: I need to see more, more than a couple weeks in order to really consider the them as like true contenders in the nfc.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: That kind of success. That kind of success is not sustainable.
[00:39:01] Speaker A: Do you need to see more weeks out of the Ravens failing?
[00:39:05] Speaker B: So I didn't watch the Raiders play, so I don't really know what went wrong with them.
[00:39:11] Speaker A: The Ravens choked that game away and they were. They were in that.
[00:39:15] Speaker B: So this is the second game in a row that they've choked a game.
[00:39:17] Speaker A: Away in fourth quarters.
[00:39:19] Speaker B: How many games has Lamar choked away then?
[00:39:23] Speaker C: You can't call the Chiefs loss a joke.
[00:39:26] Speaker B: He missed a wide open Zay Flowers. I can call that a joke all day.
[00:39:29] Speaker A: I think again too.
[00:39:32] Speaker B: That dude was wide open.
[00:39:34] Speaker C: We have a different definition of what?
[00:39:36] Speaker B: Oh, no, man. No. Lamar, Jake, AFC championship game. Same thing.
[00:39:41] Speaker A: The Ravens as walk that ball down there. The Ravens are. They lead the NFL in the Most in the last six years. The most fourth quarter blown leads.
[00:39:51] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. That's a joke. That's a joke, right?
[00:39:55] Speaker A: So I'm not ready to give up on these new look Ravens. I think it does take a lot with a new running back like Derek Henry to get your stride and I'm, I'm just excited to see that. So I'm not giving up on them. I think in that division it's just a bunch of rock throw rock fights. Somehow the Steelers right now are the leaders in their division, which that's not.
[00:40:15] Speaker B: Again, just like when they went and you remember when they went 11 and 1 and everyone was like, how is it? Or no, they were 110 and everyone was like, how is this team 11 0? They are the worst 110 team, which they were because then they lost like every single game after that. I think the Steelers Justin Fields has not looked good. It's not like they're happy to tote him out on the field. They gave Russell Wilson a pity ball. It's like, oh, we beat your old team. Look at those. He didn't even fucking play.
[00:40:45] Speaker A: I love that. Our podcast started at first and Ian was like, I'm not going to swear on this. And now he's like, yeah, I'm over that. Sorry. Let's move to our weekly segment, guys. I got our segment of the week this week and it's going to come from me. And guys, something I try to be a little introspective of. Like, what kind of person am I when it comes to sports? I think he came up with a good answer. Ian even mended. It's pretty on brand. I'm a hater.
Okay.
It's funny that a counselor is a hater and that I many times throughout the day, like, I will say to students, hate is a very strong word on this podcast. I hate so many things.
[00:41:21] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:41:21] Speaker A: Like, I just say hate frequently. I bet if we had like a drinking game, you'd be drunk in the first 10 minutes. For me, just saying the word hate.
[00:41:28] Speaker B: You already started the pot off talking about how much you hated Josh Allen.
[00:41:31] Speaker A: Josh Allen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like we're going to talk. I got five scenarios that I'm going to put you in the place of someone and you're going to tell me how much hate you extrude. Okay. And you guys have to agree together on this one through five. I'm going to give you one is the that you have the most hatred. Five is the least amount of hatred. So these are It's a blind ranking. I'm going to give you one example after the other, and you guys have to agree where it goes one through five.
[00:41:59] Speaker B: So this is we.
[00:42:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm going to put you in the scenario. I'll give you the first one. How much hate are you showing? Okay, the first example, one through five. One most hate, five least hate. You are Will Levis. You just threw an interception on national television and your coach yelled at you on live television. What the fuck are you doing?
How much hatred do you exude?
[00:42:19] Speaker B: So I'm Will Levis.
[00:42:21] Speaker A: Your Will.
[00:42:21] Speaker B: My coach just called, chewed me out on national television.
[00:42:24] Speaker A: And then when they asked him afterwards, he's like, what did you say to Will after the. After the interception? He goes, I'm pretty sure the cameras got what I said.
[00:42:33] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:42:33] Speaker B: How much hate?
[00:42:34] Speaker A: What number?
[00:42:34] Speaker C: How much hate? I don't know.
[00:42:35] Speaker B: I don't know. I'd probably.
[00:42:36] Speaker C: So you're Will love us, by the way.
[00:42:38] Speaker A: Kyle doesn't hate a lot of things, so I would probably imagine owned, I think.
[00:42:42] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:42:43] Speaker B: Well, I would probably imagine a lot of players are used to getting chewed out for bad mistakes by football coaches. That seems pretty on brand. Okay, so what number this. I want to agree here. This would probably be pretty low. I would probably be like, yeah, that's just expected to be chewed out.
[00:43:01] Speaker C: I know. I'd probably. I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry, coach. That was my bad. You're totally right.
[00:43:05] Speaker A: Five.
[00:43:05] Speaker B: I would say five.
[00:43:06] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, me too.
[00:43:07] Speaker A: Okay. I wouldn't have the second one. You are Malik Willis. Okay. And you catch a snap after your center threw up on the ball.
[00:43:15] Speaker B: Oh, God.
[00:43:15] Speaker A: I heard about this.
[00:43:16] Speaker B: That's disgusting. It was like something like, why didn't you throw it? Yeah. And he, like, was like.
[00:43:23] Speaker A: And then snapped it to you. What number are we, guys?
[00:43:26] Speaker B: I would be pretty.
[00:43:27] Speaker C: That's just.
[00:43:28] Speaker A: You guys are fathers. You've wiped asses.
[00:43:30] Speaker C: I'm a parent of a lot of little kids. I'd be like, I don't. Unfazed.
[00:43:34] Speaker A: Okay, so you.
[00:43:35] Speaker B: Where you want to. Want to put it?
[00:43:37] Speaker C: I guess the next number.
[00:43:39] Speaker A: Four.
[00:43:40] Speaker B: I could say four. I would agree with four.
[00:43:41] Speaker C: Whatever. It's just puke the next one.
[00:43:43] Speaker A: This is a good stat for you.
This could be stat of the week. Okay. You are Daniel Jones.
[00:43:49] Speaker B: Oh, God.
[00:43:50] Speaker A: And you led your team to the first game in NFL history where a team scores three touchdowns and the other team, the commanders, didn't score a single touchdown and somehow lost to them. I'm going to say that Again.
[00:44:02] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:44:03] Speaker A: The Giants scored three touchdowns, the Washington Commanders scored zero, and the Commanders won 21 to 18.
[00:44:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm pretty upset by that.
[00:44:14] Speaker C: Yeah, I'd be kind of ticked off.
[00:44:16] Speaker B: Would you be two or three? I don't know if I'd put it at one, but I. I could see.
[00:44:19] Speaker C: Myself being pretty built to some hateable situations.
[00:44:23] Speaker B: Yeah, you want to keep it at 3?
[00:44:27] Speaker C: I mean, it's between 2 and 3. Yeah. Your call. Your call.
[00:44:31] Speaker B: Let's put it in. Let's put it at three.
[00:44:32] Speaker A: Okay. Okay.
[00:44:34] Speaker B: Three.
[00:44:34] Speaker A: Second to last.
[00:44:35] Speaker B: We're just going up.
[00:44:36] Speaker A: We're working towards.
[00:44:38] Speaker B: So far, I feel pretty confident.
[00:44:41] Speaker A: I don't get mad over a lot of things. Watching the game live, I was mad. I had to grab my phone and call somebody to talk about how mad I was watching this.
[00:44:48] Speaker C: Okay, good gravy.
[00:44:50] Speaker A: You are Bo Nicks.
[00:44:51] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:44:52] Speaker A: And you were given nine seconds left in the game because Sean Payton decided to not onside kick the ball and kick it to them deep. Not having. Only having one time out. And then they punted the. He had nine seconds to go 87 yards.
[00:45:08] Speaker C: Right.
[00:45:09] Speaker B: And I'm a rookie quarterback.
[00:45:10] Speaker A: What are you doing?
[00:45:13] Speaker C: Yeah, I might say I hate playing for this team.
[00:45:16] Speaker B: I would probably say I hate playing for Deshaun Payton, though, in general.
[00:45:20] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:45:20] Speaker A: Two or one, guys.
[00:45:23] Speaker C: I don't know. I really want to see what your finale is. I feel like you're gonna give us.
[00:45:26] Speaker A: I don't know. You think so?
[00:45:28] Speaker C: I don't know. You said you had to over that. That's probably your. Your biggest hate.
[00:45:34] Speaker A: What do you think, Ian?
Let's be decisive, guys.
[00:45:37] Speaker B: I'm gonna put it at two.
[00:45:38] Speaker C: Okay, Me too.
[00:45:39] Speaker B: I like to.
[00:45:40] Speaker A: Good choice.
Our last one is. You are a Panthers fan.
[00:45:44] Speaker B: Oh, fuck. Easy. Number one right away.
[00:45:48] Speaker A: There's no scenario with it. It's just European fan.
[00:45:51] Speaker C: Hey, football season, every.
[00:45:52] Speaker A: Every third week, we're gonna have a little bit of haterade with me. This is our segment called.
[00:45:57] Speaker B: Was that actually just one of those.
[00:45:59] Speaker A: It's literally the fifth hundred percent.
[00:46:01] Speaker B: That is an easy number one stand by our rank. I would be so pissed. I'm like, what are you doing?
[00:46:08] Speaker A: They're good ones. And I'm looking forward to hearing from our listeners in. If anything should have been number one over just simply being a Panthers fan.
[00:46:17] Speaker C: Right.
I'm curious if anybody agrees.
[00:46:20] Speaker B: I liked our rank.
[00:46:21] Speaker C: I'm fine with it.
[00:46:22] Speaker B: I felt pretty. I feel pretty comfortable.
[00:46:24] Speaker C: I am pretty good.
[00:46:25] Speaker A: You guys have a short fantasy update for these guys.
[00:46:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Marco's probably going to win the league.
[00:46:29] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:46:30] Speaker A: We. We talked about that.
[00:46:31] Speaker C: Don't tell Marco though. I don't want him to get too cocky here.
[00:46:34] Speaker B: No, I want him to because then.
[00:46:36] Speaker A: You think he listens to Pod and hears his Uncle Ian swearing so much.
[00:46:39] Speaker B: He barely knows me now I feel.
[00:46:41] Speaker A: Like, wow, that's not good.
[00:46:43] Speaker B: It is not.
[00:46:44] Speaker A: You're the godfather of one of his sisters.
[00:46:46] Speaker B: I am. I am indeed. I'll have them as students one day. One day. One day.
[00:46:54] Speaker C: I'm pretty disappointed in the performance of my team. I think. I'm pretty sure I lost. I haven't checked in a while.
[00:47:00] Speaker B: I won.
[00:47:01] Speaker A: That's good.
[00:47:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I won. Barely. My team still dog shit.
[00:47:05] Speaker A: One in one. Both of you. One in one.
[00:47:07] Speaker B: I only won because the guy went up against had Keenan Allen and some other tight end from Dallas. Both of them were out and he for he didn't have time to swap guys.
[00:47:20] Speaker A: I forgot. I forgot I have an honorable mention for the haterade. Oh, you could be this person's fantasy owner. You ready for this at quarterback? This is on one team. Quarterback Jordan Love. Out. Running back Raheem Moster. Out. Running back Kenneth Walker. Out. Running back OR wide receiver A.J. brown.
[00:47:40] Speaker C: OUT.
[00:47:40] Speaker A: Devo Samuel. Doubtful. And Joku? Out. Cooper Cup. Doubtful. Graham G. Out. Wow, that's rough. Would you imagine owning that?
[00:47:52] Speaker B: I already felt pretty rough because I had. I had Puka, Nakua and n'joku on.
[00:47:58] Speaker A: My fantasy and Puka's going to be out for a lot longer than what I thought. Six, seven weeks.
[00:48:02] Speaker B: I'm not going to ditch him because I know he'll be back. But Puka and Njoku. And I'm like, oh, yeah, those are two guys I drafted relatively high because.
[00:48:16] Speaker A: I was big upside on them.
[00:48:17] Speaker B: I know I was like banking on them because they were really good last year and now I'm stuck with.
[00:48:24] Speaker A: Oh, boy. Let's hear the replacements. I need to hear these.
[00:48:27] Speaker B: Lazard.
[00:48:28] Speaker A: Oh, I had to get Lazarus and.
[00:48:31] Speaker B: I had to do some trading just to get. I don't even know who.
[00:48:34] Speaker A: Tight end.
[00:48:35] Speaker B: Well, my tight end is Schultz from the Houston Jacksons and then some guy from Jacksonville. B. Thompson. Thomas.
[00:48:44] Speaker A: I don't even know his first name.
[00:48:47] Speaker B: He got me Brian Thomas, but he got me 11.
[00:48:51] Speaker A: Is he the rookie?
[00:48:52] Speaker B: He might. Yeah, he's a rookie.
[00:48:53] Speaker C: How about that?
[00:48:54] Speaker B: He got 11 points for me, so you know, he wasn't my worst performing. Adam Lazard was at three points.
[00:48:59] Speaker C: Alan.
[00:49:00] Speaker A: Guys, let's talk about our best watch game of the week. The game that we Guarantee everybody should watch. If you could only pick one game to watch out of the week, right here we have Baltimore and Dallas. But I heard you guys talking about some other games.
[00:49:12] Speaker C: The only game you gotta watch is which. Whichever the cat Cardinals game is because that is highlight real. That is fun.
[00:49:19] Speaker B: Well, unfortunately, that is against the Lions and that could be. That could be a good game.
[00:49:26] Speaker C: Let's make.
[00:49:26] Speaker A: Let's.
[00:49:26] Speaker B: The way. The way that the Lion. Well, the way that the Cardinals offensively are playing and the way the Lions defensively are playing, that actually could be a pretty good matchup. It's in Arizona, so I'm a little nervous for the lines on this one.
[00:49:41] Speaker A: In the dome though, it's in good for golf.
[00:49:43] Speaker B: In a dome.
[00:49:44] Speaker C: Good for go. I'm. I'm loving it though. But I love Kyler being back.
[00:49:48] Speaker A: I bet you do.
[00:49:49] Speaker C: He's back. He posted a perfect passive rating. Do you watch those highlights? Yeah, out there. And he balls.
[00:49:54] Speaker B: He looks like he threw one of his last throws touchdowns to was like Higgins or something like that. His tight end.
[00:50:03] Speaker A: He threw it.
[00:50:04] Speaker C: What a play.
[00:50:05] Speaker B: He threw it.
[00:50:06] Speaker C: You don't love watching that. You're just get out of here.
[00:50:08] Speaker B: But he started walking away. He didn't even watch the play finish. He just had his hands up like it was already a touchdown. That dude fucking knew that was cool. I was like, that is a baller move.
[00:50:22] Speaker C: He's so good. I love it.
[00:50:23] Speaker B: He's got that bona again.
[00:50:26] Speaker C: They're back. He's back.
[00:50:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Let's just hope they don't do what the Cardinals always do. Come on, Kyle, implode.
[00:50:32] Speaker A: Out of context. Somebody to hear what you just said.
[00:50:35] Speaker B: I know our listeners know that Kyle had a thing for Arizona. He had a. You know.
[00:50:44] Speaker C: Right. But they're back.
[00:50:48] Speaker A: His likeness.
[00:50:50] Speaker B: Let's talk to.
[00:50:51] Speaker C: I was just delighted with a lot of it. I loved Gino's overtime come. And Gino is actually my favorite quarterback in the NFL and he's incredible.
[00:51:00] Speaker B: And just the Baltimore Dallas game is intriguing because these are two teams that are trying to figure out what the hell is going on with them.
[00:51:08] Speaker C: I loved Kirk Cousins because that was beautiful.
[00:51:11] Speaker B: Oh, what a good game, by the way.
[00:51:14] Speaker C: What a good game.
[00:51:14] Speaker B: What a good game.
[00:51:15] Speaker A: Totally.
[00:51:16] Speaker B: Saquon definitely looks good.
[00:51:19] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:51:19] Speaker B: I mean, he dropped the. He dropped. But that's not. That whole game isn't completely on him.
[00:51:25] Speaker A: But Cousins getting fired, guys. I think he's getting fired sooner than we all think.
[00:51:31] Speaker B: Guess we're going to find out. Cousins, though, looked like a dude who Just got paid and he played like a dude who was earning his paycheck.
[00:51:38] Speaker C: I love it. Earning his paycheck. That's what you get him for. You don't you think Michael Penix out there is going to lead that drive and win that game?
[00:51:44] Speaker B: At the rate that these rookies this year have been playing, Penix would have lost at that game.
[00:51:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
Go talk about our predictions guys. Guaranteed lock our team that we guarantee will win. Okay. They are not going to lose. Who do we got here? Kyle?
[00:51:58] Speaker C: I'm locking in the Chiefs over the whoever they're playing.
Let me look it up.
[00:52:05] Speaker B: Atlanta.
[00:52:06] Speaker C: The Falcons are going to be this.
[00:52:08] Speaker A: Paycheck and here we go.
[00:52:10] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:52:11] Speaker A: Okay. I hope this you. You got the Chiefs winning.
[00:52:14] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:52:14] Speaker B: I kind of want.
[00:52:15] Speaker A: You don't have the Falcons losing. Okay. Sweet. I got Cincinnati over Washington.
Sorry. Jane Daniels. It's going to call it a lock.
[00:52:25] Speaker C: On an O and two team. That's aggressive.
[00:52:27] Speaker A: Owen two over a 101.
[00:52:29] Speaker B: It's okay. I wanted to this rightfully so. Marshall said we probably shouldn't do this but I was like we should ban picking a lock against the Panther.
[00:52:37] Speaker A: I don't agree with it. I don't agree with it. If somebody wants to keep going against them it's going to be one of us. You and Ian who's going to get screwed on it.
[00:52:45] Speaker B: So like well now that they got Andy Dalton I'm like I don't want to touch. I don't want to touch him right now.
[00:52:51] Speaker C: Right.
[00:52:52] Speaker B: You never know because I almost that Carolina Las Vegas game might go either way. Now my lock is Tampa over Denver phone again. How about is more like shit. Nick's. I don't know.
[00:53:09] Speaker A: That was good.
[00:53:10] Speaker B: Nailed it.
[00:53:12] Speaker A: Upset of the week team that you think Vegas has it wrong. Okay. I got Green Bay over Tennessee. I don't think this is the same coach team from Tennessee. That would be the upset team that or that always covers when people don't think or they're.
[00:53:28] Speaker B: I like that pick.
[00:53:29] Speaker C: I like this. This is a Malik Willis revenge game.
[00:53:32] Speaker A: You took the words out of my mouth. Yes. I love a good revenge game.
[00:53:36] Speaker C: Let's go.
[00:53:37] Speaker A: I love that revenge goes hand in hand with haters.
[00:53:39] Speaker B: This one's.
[00:53:41] Speaker A: Who do you got on your. Let's hear your because I really like yours.
[00:53:45] Speaker B: Actually I'm taking Dallas over Baltimore.
[00:53:46] Speaker A: I didn't think I was going to hear that from you.
[00:53:49] Speaker B: I'm going to take it one because I think it would just be hilarious if Baltimore is own three. I don't know why, but I think that's fine.
[00:53:57] Speaker A: I picked them. I picked Dallas as well. They're not my upset, but it's just interesting to hear. I didn't think I'd hear that from you, so that's why I was curious.
[00:54:03] Speaker B: Well, I looked at and I wouldn't normally do this, and I actually put Baltimore down first and I was like, eh, meh. Yeah, I want to take Dallas. I don't know why. I like.
I don't like Dallas, but I like Prescott, so I'll take him.
[00:54:19] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:54:20] Speaker C: You're really breaking down this strategy that you have. You were telling us how you try. I really try. I really try. Here's my strategy.
[00:54:26] Speaker B: Would you shut up?
[00:54:28] Speaker A: Who's your.
[00:54:28] Speaker B: Who's your. Who's your upset?
[00:54:30] Speaker C: I'm taking the Chargers over the Steelers.
[00:54:32] Speaker B: Okay, that's an upset.
[00:54:34] Speaker C: Yeah, that's.
[00:54:36] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:54:37] Speaker B: That's a safe up.
[00:54:39] Speaker A: Steelers favor by two points. You know, this is the first time in NFL history we've had the two biggest favorites lose.
[00:54:46] Speaker C: Oh.
[00:54:47] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:54:47] Speaker B: The Lions had like. The Lions had like a plus seven, which I hated that I was like, why are you giving the Lions that much love?
[00:54:56] Speaker A: I'm playing with fire. Because the third week it's Cincinnati minus seven and a half, but they're also tied with the San Francisco 49ers minus seven and a half over the Rams.
[00:55:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I was annoyed when I saw that the Tampa had that because I was like, man, you're giving Tampa some fuel here because they're going to be coming in feeling disrespected. They're already looking for revenge.
[00:55:20] Speaker A: Any other.
[00:55:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:55:22] Speaker A: Last calls there, guys.
[00:55:25] Speaker B: Nope, I got nothing. I'll work on my swearing next week.
[00:55:29] Speaker C: Yeah, increasing good.
[00:55:36] Speaker A: Want to thank you for listening to the pod, for sending it to your friends, your family, your loved ones, people you don't like, your enemies at work. Here's a little fun staff for you right here, guys. Notre Dame, after losing embarrassingly to Northern Illinois, and I refuse to talk about them this week, they scored 66 points.
Notre Dame, 66 points are its most fouling loss within a season since 1905. That year, the Irish lost at Michigan and then defeated the Chicago physicians and surgeons 88 to nothing. I hope that you have a great week. I hope you have a little bit of hater in your juice, and more importantly, I hope that you register to vote. Have a good rest of your day.
