Offseason Pod - Flashback Fever

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to the Point after show with. [00:00:02] Speaker B: Kyle Mauer, Marshall heslaw, and Ian DeWitt. [00:00:05] Speaker A: This is the show where the guys attempt to pick the winners of the weekly NFL games along with some healthy debate about current topics. Let's go. [00:00:14] Speaker B: Hey, what's up, guys? [00:00:16] Speaker A: It's been a minute. [00:00:17] Speaker C: Oh, boys. [00:00:18] Speaker B: It's been an off season and we haven't done anything. [00:00:22] Speaker A: We've been off. [00:00:23] Speaker B: We have been off. [00:00:24] Speaker C: It's been a summer. [00:00:25] Speaker A: We. It's things in the life. [00:00:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:00:28] Speaker A: Ian had knee surgery. I actually had a listener write in a question and asked if Kyle's gonna have surgery next year. So they come in threes. [00:00:37] Speaker B: Frick Campbell's been coming after all of our knees. He's got two of them. [00:00:43] Speaker C: That's a scary prospect. Don't set me up with that. My. My oldest daughter did break her arm. [00:00:47] Speaker B: Oh. [00:00:48] Speaker A: That kind of counts. [00:00:49] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah. Cast right now. [00:00:51] Speaker B: When did she get that off? [00:00:52] Speaker C: A couple more weeks. [00:00:53] Speaker B: A couple more weeks? [00:00:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:00:54] Speaker B: I have the all clear to walk in July 21st. Oh, I have a little ways to go. [00:01:03] Speaker A: Wow. [00:01:04] Speaker B: It's actually. It's. It's about three weeks. A little over three weeks. [00:01:07] Speaker A: Well, today's an off season pod, and it's one of our favorite kinds of pods because it's going to be a little bit different. But the thing that we always start our pod off with is a question of the day. Yeah. This was posed to me yesterday on a pontoon going through Portage Lake. [00:01:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:01:22] Speaker A: The question is, you are locked in a room with an animal and you have to kill them in order to survive and get out of the. How big of an animal could you kill? Like, could you kill a squirrel? [00:01:33] Speaker C: So this is like that movie where there's, like, the goofy. I've never watched any of these. [00:01:36] Speaker A: Revenant. [00:01:36] Speaker C: The. The movie with the revenant. The doll that says, you want to play a game? And you have saw. Yeah. [00:01:41] Speaker A: Oh, no. I guess so we could. [00:01:43] Speaker C: Like, in a room. The only way is to kill this. [00:01:46] Speaker A: But he said, yeah, no, it's not like that. I'm putting you in a situation. How big of an animal could you kill with your bare hands? [00:01:53] Speaker C: Yes. [00:01:55] Speaker B: Squirrel would actually be hard just because it would be fast. [00:01:58] Speaker A: Imagine it's coming at you. [00:01:59] Speaker C: All you have to do is sit on the thing like, thank you. [00:02:01] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what I mean. [00:02:03] Speaker A: Can we agree? Squirrel's dead, though. [00:02:05] Speaker B: Yeah, squirrel's dead. [00:02:06] Speaker A: Okay. Move up the chain. [00:02:07] Speaker B: Catch it. I was. So this answers the question of, is it Like a. [00:02:11] Speaker A: You're in a confined. We're in this podcast room. [00:02:13] Speaker B: This squirrel knows equally. [00:02:15] Speaker A: He's got to get through you. Okay. [00:02:17] Speaker C: Okay. Sloths are pretty big and very. [00:02:20] Speaker B: They have large claws. [00:02:22] Speaker A: How about a goat? [00:02:23] Speaker C: Yeah, but they're slow. [00:02:25] Speaker B: Goats are not going to be as easy as you think. [00:02:27] Speaker C: I know. [00:02:29] Speaker A: I'm asking what your answer is, not what you could or could. Okay. All right. [00:02:32] Speaker C: How about maybe not like one of the big. [00:02:35] Speaker A: A lamb. [00:02:37] Speaker B: A lamb is easy. [00:02:38] Speaker A: A llama. A llama. [00:02:41] Speaker C: A full grown. [00:02:42] Speaker B: Full grown. They're kind of big, probably, but if. [00:02:44] Speaker C: You could get enough pressure on those long skinny necks. [00:02:47] Speaker A: How about a dough? [00:02:48] Speaker B: I take a slight to the long skinny neck. [00:02:51] Speaker A: A dough. [00:02:51] Speaker C: Don't take it for a doe. [00:02:53] Speaker B: A doe? Yeah. You could kill a do. [00:02:54] Speaker C: Yeah, you could eventually. [00:02:55] Speaker A: Bare hands. Dough. How about deer? Buck? [00:02:58] Speaker B: I don't think a buck. I don't think a buck. [00:03:00] Speaker A: Just the antlers throw you off. [00:03:01] Speaker B: I think the anlers would get you. I think they are more built to. [00:03:04] Speaker C: I think you got a shot in a. In a chant. [00:03:06] Speaker A: I actually had somebody tell me that you would get. Grabbing the antlers and snapping its neck would be the way to do it. [00:03:11] Speaker C: Of course it would. But if you successfully can before you're gourd. [00:03:15] Speaker B: Yeah. So like they're going to hit you. You're not going to come. Let's say you. We could do it, but you would not come out unscathed. You would be potentially mortally wounded. [00:03:26] Speaker A: Okay. How about a donkey? [00:03:28] Speaker B: A donkey? [00:03:29] Speaker C: I was thinking. I was thinking in that. In that. That. [00:03:34] Speaker A: Realm. Yeah. [00:03:35] Speaker B: I'm not gonna lie. I feel like it's a good question. [00:03:39] Speaker C: Like the. [00:03:39] Speaker B: Some of these are gonna be. Some of these are gonna be hard. You think you could take a zebra on. I mean, that gets one swift kick by their back leg. [00:03:48] Speaker A: Did you know cows can kick to the side? Did you know that a cow can kick to the side? That's why I didn't think I could kill a cow. [00:03:54] Speaker C: I mean, not with any degree of accuracy. [00:03:57] Speaker A: As accurate as a donkey could. [00:03:59] Speaker B: And a donkey neck is quite thick. I feel like choking it out is going to be quite difficult. [00:04:04] Speaker A: So do you have your biggest animals on it? [00:04:06] Speaker B: Right. [00:04:06] Speaker A: Can we get this already? What do you. What's your biggest animal that you could hold. Hold your own in the room. You want to be in the room where it happens? I mean. [00:04:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:15] Speaker B: I don't know if it's about size. [00:04:17] Speaker A: Mine's dough. Mine. Dough. Dough is my answer. [00:04:20] Speaker C: Okay. All right. [00:04:22] Speaker B: I would probably say I could take On a buck. But I would probably die in the process. [00:04:28] Speaker C: Ostrich. Maybe I could kill ostrich. [00:04:30] Speaker A: Killing you? [00:04:31] Speaker B: Yeah. No, no way. [00:04:32] Speaker A: Killing you. [00:04:33] Speaker C: They have very vulnerable weak point. You know, they are small brain, aggressive. [00:04:38] Speaker B: They are quite aggressive. [00:04:40] Speaker C: I know it would be tough. I'm not saying. But if my life depends on it. [00:04:43] Speaker B: I think you're dead. [00:04:45] Speaker A: Dead. [00:04:46] Speaker B: I think you're dead. [00:04:48] Speaker C: Jesus. [00:04:48] Speaker B: What about a kangaroo? [00:04:51] Speaker C: Okay. [00:04:52] Speaker A: Kangaroo's killing you. [00:04:53] Speaker C: I could see it. I could see it. [00:04:54] Speaker A: That's. [00:04:55] Speaker B: That just feels like a good matchup, though, because they're gonna. They're just as. [00:05:00] Speaker A: But people said that about dose. Because apparently does stand up on their two feet and they can, like, flail at you. Yeah. [00:05:07] Speaker C: You might suffer some injuries. [00:05:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:08] Speaker C: I think the human will prevail. [00:05:10] Speaker A: Well, those are good answers, guys, for our question of the day. And if you feel like as a listener you have a good answer, feel free to tell us. [00:05:17] Speaker B: I also want to say, guys, I wouldn't kill any of these animals. [00:05:22] Speaker A: Huh? [00:05:23] Speaker C: Oh, wow. [00:05:24] Speaker B: I'm better than that. [00:05:25] Speaker A: Oh, that's one of us. [00:05:26] Speaker B: These are God's creations, right? [00:05:28] Speaker C: Yeah. That's what we will tell your kids. [00:05:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:33] Speaker A: The centipede killed your dad because he wouldn't step on it because of fear. [00:05:39] Speaker B: I hate centipedes. That's too many. Too many legs. It's unnatural. [00:05:43] Speaker A: We're gonna get a little nerdy on this pod today because I don't know if you guys know this, but there's a superhero movie that's coming out soon. Do you guys know the movie? What's coming out soon, guys? [00:05:53] Speaker B: Superman. [00:05:53] Speaker C: Fantastic four. [00:05:55] Speaker A: Superman's coming out. And one of my favorite villains of Superman is Bizarro Marshall taking his shirt off, my sweatshirt off. And Bizarro is the anti Superman, you know? And so today I'm going to be anti Marshall. I am currently wearing a Buffalo Bill shirt. [00:06:17] Speaker C: Why? [00:06:18] Speaker A: Because this is the Bizarro episode. We're gonna take a trip down memory lane and hear about all the things that were wrong or potentially problematic that you had said in the past. And to set this up, I'm going to. I have different recordings that I'm going to play a sound. Oh, yeah. [00:06:37] Speaker B: Blue looks good on you. [00:06:39] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:06:40] Speaker B: Good. [00:06:41] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:06:42] Speaker B: This might be your new team. [00:06:45] Speaker A: Bill's mafia. Put me through a table. When we're done with this, I'm going to be playing a little sounder that's going to take us down memory lane, and you're going to hear some different sounds from the past of the point after I've spent hours and hours upon searching. [00:07:01] Speaker C: New listeners recall we're approaching season five when. When football kicks off. That's season five of the Point after. [00:07:10] Speaker A: Yes. [00:07:10] Speaker C: We've got a back catalog here of doing weekly episodes throughout the entirety of the football season. [00:07:16] Speaker B: It's important to note that our past selves. Language choices don't reflect. Oh, current selves. Correct language choices. [00:07:24] Speaker C: People grow and change. [00:07:25] Speaker B: We do. Swearing. [00:07:27] Speaker A: It happens. We're not leaning on it, but let's. [00:07:29] Speaker C: Have some fun as people. Some of us were in our 20s when we started this show. You can't give anybody a hard time for what they say in their 20s. [00:07:37] Speaker A: So we're gonna kick it off by just hearing a sound from the one and only. This is. I labeled it as my favorite. [00:07:47] Speaker C: I'm so excited. [00:07:48] Speaker A: My favorite. Ian. Pod moment. [00:07:50] Speaker B: Oh, no. [00:07:54] Speaker C: That'S true. [00:07:55] Speaker A: That. [00:07:55] Speaker C: That's. That's a point. But the Lions in their run game is exhilarating to us. [00:08:01] Speaker B: The last two Ravens. The last two seasons. The last two seasons. I was trying to get this in earlier. You guys kept going. [00:08:10] Speaker C: The. [00:08:10] Speaker B: The pass has been down. Like, the quarterback play has, like, really regressed. Shut up, Marshall. If you're gonna talk, get up to that microphone. Don't sit back there and make some snot comment. Ass. Come on, get up there. [00:08:26] Speaker A: That's what you cut him off for, to say the passes down. [00:08:29] Speaker B: I was trying to just interject commentary. Talking over it. That's what you're. [00:08:39] Speaker A: Oh, gosh, that's. Just. Let that be a, you know, thought that. Can you hear what. What we're getting on here, Ian? [00:08:47] Speaker B: I can hear it out of one ear, not the other. [00:08:50] Speaker A: All right, well, it's being recorded, so that's. That's the point that matters to us today. So one of the next ones that I'm gonna kick us off with. It's probably one of our oldest takes, and it comes from Kyle. [00:09:01] Speaker C: Oh, shoot. Oh, I'm scared about these. Whatever you're gonna bring back. [00:09:05] Speaker B: I wasn't too impressed with my past. [00:09:06] Speaker C: Show as far as who. [00:09:07] Speaker A: Who do I have? [00:09:08] Speaker C: The Hotspur, now that you ask. There's a team that I think is smoking. Oh, yeah, I got a bona for Arizona. The Cardinals are out there saying, what about us? You guys in that. The best division in football. There's a little bird quietly chirping. I think it's time that we listened. The Cardinals just came out. They've not been a part of the conversation as much as I think they should be. They are making a statement in Week one. Hey, hey. Enough about the Rams and Niners and Seahawks. We're here too, and we came to play. Murray is amazing. [00:09:50] Speaker A: Amazing. [00:09:51] Speaker C: Real is really. I mean, if You've only got 15 minutes to watch football on the weekend, just watch the Murray highlight reel. It's the most entertaining thing you're gonna see, hands down, over the course of the football weekend. [00:10:04] Speaker A: Kyle, welcome back to the real world right here. Having to play that sounder when we intro a sound. What are your thoughts on Kyler currently? I. I think that you still got. [00:10:16] Speaker C: Thank you for bringing that one back. [00:10:17] Speaker A: That's our first one. [00:10:18] Speaker C: Thank you. [00:10:19] Speaker A: That's so great. Okay. [00:10:21] Speaker C: Proud times. The Cardinals, they were special back there. They were fun to watch. I was entertained. I'm entertained by it. [00:10:26] Speaker A: That the. [00:10:27] Speaker B: The Yoda phases where he would be, like, sitting down and doing Yoda poses all the time. [00:10:32] Speaker A: That was when we always would bet on Kyler. In the first five games of the season, he'd go 4 and 1. [00:10:37] Speaker C: Somehow I still pick him higher than most people will. I still have a bias towards him. I think that, you know, his highs are very high. His talent is undeniable. [00:10:46] Speaker A: There was one part that I. That we had on here that I didn't record, but it was a point that you were going to say that Kyler's definitely better than Dak, and he's starting to get to the Lamar Jackson conversation. The Lamar. [00:11:03] Speaker B: The I. Difficult say on the deck part because they have both been injured. But the Lamar comment, that's woof. [00:11:11] Speaker A: If you think that one's bad. Guys. [00:11:13] Speaker B: New boy, I feel like you ditched Murray for Lamar the past couple seasons. You're like, you're right. I don't like this anymore. [00:11:21] Speaker C: I was. Yeah. When I. When I. When we started this, I was. I was a Lamar skeptic, I guess, like, oh, he's just, you know, I. [00:11:28] Speaker B: Feel like I was a little bit more. [00:11:29] Speaker A: We have some other things that are wrong. Guys, let's go down memory lane. This one takes us back to Panthers, Panthers, Browns. We don't have a lot of that here. [00:11:41] Speaker C: We go out there this season. [00:11:43] Speaker B: I'll be happy for week one. [00:11:45] Speaker A: He plays the Browns, and I'm telling you, the Browns have not won in nine years. On week one. One. Bat, bat, bat. The Panthers. Let's go. [00:11:53] Speaker C: Let's go, Panthers. [00:11:55] Speaker A: What happened that week, guys? [00:11:57] Speaker C: You said. Is that when you said bet your. [00:11:58] Speaker A: House, the h, I said three times. Bet, bet, bet the house. They lost 17 to nothing. [00:12:06] Speaker B: That was. That must have been Baker, right? [00:12:09] Speaker A: Panthers and Browns going back to the Browns. Yes. Yeah. Now, if you think that we had good quarterback takes, Justin Matson, we. We need to hear from what our thoughts are on that team in purple. Let's. Let's do that one right here. [00:12:25] Speaker C: Right behind Philly. And that team y' all love to hate. They may wear purple, but they look great of late. Can you find a better receiver than 1 8? I'll wait. But the very best part of this team stacking up wins is the fact that they're led by good old Kirk Cousins. Sucks for Marshall and all the sports media. They can't be beat. It's time to admit, dudes, the man's elite. [00:12:50] Speaker A: I'm done. Elite. Elite. And then. And then we have Ian. Ian on the sound right here talking to little Kirk Cousins as well. [00:13:06] Speaker B: Vikings not only make the playoffs during the NFC championship game. [00:13:12] Speaker C: Oh, and I won't stop there. [00:13:16] Speaker B: This one gets spicy. [00:13:19] Speaker A: A spicy me. [00:13:20] Speaker C: Let's go. [00:13:21] Speaker B: Kirk Cousins wins the mvp. [00:13:28] Speaker A: I love our sounds. [00:13:30] Speaker B: I don't actually hate that take. Even. Still. [00:13:32] Speaker A: Still. [00:13:33] Speaker B: Still. Mostly because I remember that we were doing super hot takes on purpose, and I. I knew that was super hot. [00:13:40] Speaker A: Oh, was that what we were doing? [00:13:41] Speaker B: We were definitely. [00:13:42] Speaker A: Think I could get that out of context and just record it like that? [00:13:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:45] Speaker C: He is good at the hot stuff. He brings the spicy ones. He's not afraid. [00:13:49] Speaker B: I got a spicy for you later. [00:13:52] Speaker A: One of the wildest. We actually, at one point in our earliest season, we asked everyone to predict the most, like, what's the craziest thing that could happen this off season? Like, one thing. And Kyle gave, you know, like, this is going to be a really boring off season. There's going to be a lot of different things. Now this. This is what Ian, buckle up. [00:14:15] Speaker C: What year I'm interested in, like, the year this. [00:14:18] Speaker A: This recording is. Is from our first year. So this is 2021. Whoa. Okay. This is what Ian claimed was going to happen in our first offseason as a podcast. Welcome to the. Oh, that's not. That's a different sounder right there. And I did not mean to have that. I'm sorry. All right, let's get her right here. Yeah. [00:14:39] Speaker B: And that's what I think is gonna happen. I think there's gonna be, like, a story out there. You know, this is Tony Romo. He's gonna. They got a little touchy CBS intervention meeting with him, trying to fix his. You know. You know, he's like, I'm going golfing. [00:14:57] Speaker A: I'll see you later. [00:14:59] Speaker B: He gets so depressed about that. Gives out a binge of crystal meth, forgets his stars, drives his car through a mall, injures five people, kill. Next thing you know, he's got, like, life in prison, charaded his crystal ball for some crystal meth. I believe we're gonna have maybe not Tony Romo, but there's gonna be a dude, there's gonna be a big name somehow. [00:15:22] Speaker A: All right, we're back. All right, your thoughts on that take? [00:15:28] Speaker C: Where did that even come. [00:15:29] Speaker B: I don't even know. I was blown away. When I just yell out Crystal Method, I'm crying. [00:15:37] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. Tony Romo. Tony Romo. He was a casualty. We talked a lot of Romo early in our years. I listened times two speed of our podcast for hours. And we talked a lot of Romo and Cowboys offensive line. Because Cowboys sell. Yeah, okay. Speaking of Cowboys, this is what I said last year as the year started. Let me know if it happens or not later in the year. Remind me the biggest news that we're going to have this year is what the Cowboys are going to do with Dak, because I think he's going to be traded or cut by traded or cut. And then he went on to have his greatest season that he's had as a pro. [00:16:24] Speaker C: I become the highest paid player. [00:16:26] Speaker A: Totally the. I think within weeks of that, he got his contract. [00:16:30] Speaker C: Mm. [00:16:31] Speaker A: Like, how dumb am I? Yeah, you don't need to answer that. Just. Just say I'm not. [00:16:36] Speaker B: I like it. Especially. You were probably on some crystal. [00:16:40] Speaker A: No, no, no, no. I love these. [00:16:42] Speaker C: They're short and sweet. I'm enjoying this. How about a thrill? [00:16:45] Speaker A: Well. Well, let you laugh a little bit longer because this one's about the Jaguars. We talk a lot of Jags here, don't we? And I'm gonna be bold. [00:16:55] Speaker C: Come on. [00:16:56] Speaker A: I think the Jaguars this year are going to be pretty good. I think quarterbacks. I think quarterbacks typically ascend a lot more from year one to year two. He actually has a quarterback coach I would feel like, who's good? Doug Peterson's done well with quarterbacks in the past. Thank you for backing up my take there. Nate Sudfield over here. [00:17:20] Speaker B: I'm actually glad we were very much rejecting that. [00:17:23] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, There. There was a lot of anger that we had, like, but. But we also had, like, hard on him after. Do you want to hear the hardest that I got on this pod was. Pause is right here. So much different. Oh, my gosh. She when decided to run. Take your. Guess who I'm talking About and let's break my hand. Let's break my non throwing hand by being an idiot and running into three people into the end zone when I could have just thrown it to three. [00:17:53] Speaker C: People that are open. [00:17:54] Speaker B: Great job. [00:17:55] Speaker A: Josh Allen, okay, decided to the entire game not run the ball. When they're open the entire time, they have the ability to run. But because Josh Allen wants to kill the plays at the line of scrimmage all the time throughout the game that they're losing to the Arizona Cardinals. The majority of that game they were down 17 and nothing to the Cardinals. Okay, I understand it's the beginning of the season. This when the Cardinals look really good. Remember you guys, you got. Kyle's got a boner for Arizona two years after that. A reminder this week to bet on the Cardinals. I bet on the Cardinals got screwed by Josh Allen. So. So this is the origin of all of my anger for Josh Allen was because he screwed me on a live bet that I had. You know what I like against. [00:18:41] Speaker B: You know what I like about this? That's what I was just about to say. I was like, I love that. That was multiple years ago and yet it's still true. [00:18:50] Speaker A: No, this is. You're talking to Bizarro Marshall. Although I have sweat through the shirt because I'm very intense right now. This is Bizarro Marshall. I'm calm, cool, collect, and I'm ready to get thrown through a table. I'm part of Bill's mafia right now and I love Josh Allen. Lamar Jackson's overrated. [00:19:06] Speaker B: He's mvp. [00:19:08] Speaker A: I don't know what else I could say that's opposite. Like Kirk Cousins. I have a monument to him at my house. [00:19:13] Speaker B: Basically, if you're the reigning mvp, you're the best quarterback in football. I'm pretty sure that's how that works. [00:19:18] Speaker A: I mean, he's got the only ring I really care about, Hailee Seinfeld. I mean, come on, he's been more successful than now. Our pod isn't just about us. We hear from our listeners and we actually had moments where our listeners called in. Don't tell me this one's from the one and only Justin Matson. The big hot take from Justin Matson. Vikings finish 4:13. Kirk Cousins is traded to some team for a 6th round pick in the offseason. They need a quarterback who is willing to throw the ball away and stop taking so many dang sacks for 12 yard losses. Now, while Justin didn't call in for that one, I did hear moments of Justin Matson's early takes of the anti Viking for Viking hatred of just being a Vikings fan. The pain, the misery. [00:20:11] Speaker B: Kirk Cousins was very volatile. [00:20:13] Speaker A: Talk about he. He is what LeBron James is to NBA coverage. Like when you need something to talk about. For six years we had Kirk Cousins. Well, for 20 years they've had LeBron. [00:20:25] Speaker B: I still feel like Kirk Cousins might find his way into the media cycle this year. [00:20:28] Speaker C: He'll find a way. Yeah. Or just be even just be in the highest. [00:20:31] Speaker B: It's going to take like three games of Pennix not playing well for it to start. [00:20:34] Speaker A: Pennix. [00:20:35] Speaker C: Here we go. [00:20:35] Speaker A: Shout out to Pennix now we also something that we did early in our pod was we did a lot of trivia. Okay, we haven't done a lot of trivia lately, but do you guys in your head just. Did you have that favorite trivia that you remember of all the trivias we've done? Because let's go down memory lane and you're one of our favorites. [00:20:59] Speaker B: Name the only two professional sports teams from the same city that won the super bowl and the World Series in the same year whose nicknames rhyme. Jets and the Mets. So it would be like. [00:21:16] Speaker A: Did he get that? What is it? [00:21:19] Speaker B: Jets and the Mets. Really? I mean, are you in my house? [00:21:27] Speaker A: It was a great call in from my dad who listed probably a good 10 to 12 trivia questions off the rip about the super bowl, about who are the teams that scored 50 points the most. I mean, very fun trivia. We had something I think maybe we could look at bringing back next year. And if you feel like as a listener you got a good trivia question. [00:21:48] Speaker C: Those are great, Mr. Hassle. [00:21:50] Speaker A: Shout out. [00:21:50] Speaker C: Well done. Well done. [00:21:51] Speaker A: Yeah. If you feel like you have a good trivia, shoot it to one of us privately and we'll give it the question on our doc and then reveal the answer live on. [00:21:59] Speaker C: We're always into a good call in too, so especially some of our long stand. [00:22:02] Speaker B: We need to do that more often. [00:22:04] Speaker C: Yeah, we should open up the phone lines. Just, just hit us up and let us know you want to call in. [00:22:07] Speaker A: Well, you guys, Kyle did talk a lot about Arizona. I mean he was, he loved him. But let's also hear a little bit about Kyle's side piece. [00:22:19] Speaker C: This last season I kind of had this fling, you know, tell us more with the Cardinals. [00:22:25] Speaker B: And how did that go? [00:22:27] Speaker C: You know, it was all right, you know, but like, I don't know, they. [00:22:31] Speaker B: Turned out not to be what you thought. [00:22:34] Speaker C: Kind of not texting them back. You got cash, you're ghosting like, there. I mean, you know, I'm not saying it's over between us, you know, but. [00:22:42] Speaker B: You want to explore your options a little bit. [00:22:44] Speaker C: I've kind of been, like. I've kind of been having this thing, like, a little bit of flirting going on with me and the Chargers. [00:22:51] Speaker B: Could you. Could you say there was a little spark? [00:22:56] Speaker C: That's so good. [00:22:57] Speaker A: That's so stupid. [00:23:01] Speaker C: I mean, I don't know where this is gonna go, but, like, you know, we gotta think. I think this. I think there's something I'm gonna explore here between me and the Chargers. I like that. I like that they're. They're making some interesting moves. They are building a roster. [00:23:14] Speaker B: Oh. [00:23:15] Speaker A: And then it actually cut off. But the next thing I did is a classic Marshall move of who's their coach? And you immediately said, staley. I mean, I was trying to catch you of like, you didn't know who it was. And. [00:23:27] Speaker C: But that you pulled that a lot on me early season is like trying to catch me as a fraud. [00:23:32] Speaker A: And it offended you. [00:23:33] Speaker C: Well, I was a fraud. I didn't know anything. [00:23:36] Speaker A: It was like Kyle likes Kyler Murray. Because that's literally what's the Sports center is for. 10 minutes of sports Center. [00:23:43] Speaker C: O. I know. I know. Trial by fire. I learned a thing or two about football. [00:23:47] Speaker B: The Chargers, they do kind of have a little bit of something going on now. [00:23:51] Speaker A: It was very early rookie year. [00:23:54] Speaker C: Herbert, the next. The next season, I. I came to my sentences and told and definitely advised everyone. [00:24:00] Speaker B: Was that the season where Herbert was like, lights out, crazy Good. [00:24:04] Speaker A: Very good. Now, Kyle, he is. You've had your defenses, and it's very fun listening to the origins of fandom because we have teams and fans that, like, we have a Seattle Seahawks fan and Thane. We have packers fans, Lions fans. We have a Chargers fan. We have a Vikings fan. We. Right. [00:24:28] Speaker C: A Niners fan. [00:24:29] Speaker A: Let's hear about your origin. Shout out Adam Silver of Geno Smith. [00:24:34] Speaker B: I will give you Colt McCoy. I will not give you Geno Smith. [00:24:38] Speaker C: Come on. [00:24:38] Speaker B: No. [00:24:40] Speaker C: Although he is not the reason the Seahawks lost those games. It was not because of Geno. [00:24:45] Speaker B: Yeah, the Seahawks are. I'm surprised we have the game he. [00:24:48] Speaker A: Won is not the reason. [00:24:49] Speaker C: And now Russ is back and playing terrible. [00:24:52] Speaker B: I'm surprised we haven't talked more about how bad the Seahawks. [00:24:55] Speaker C: You know, that was another thing that I was thinking of while I was driving earlier is like watching some of these teams while I derail the conversation. But, like, while I was driving. Yeah. [00:25:05] Speaker B: Let me tell you about these Seahawks. [00:25:07] Speaker A: I don't know on Wisner Street. These damn Seahawks. Another four way. Stop. [00:25:14] Speaker C: I thought this was a one way Seahawks. [00:25:17] Speaker B: Russell Wilson, you're supposed to be the chosen one. [00:25:22] Speaker A: What is this your first defense of Geno Smith? This is the first offense you were really upset about. [00:25:28] Speaker C: He came in as a backup. [00:25:29] Speaker A: Yes. [00:25:32] Speaker B: And how long ago was that? [00:25:33] Speaker A: That was three years ago. [00:25:35] Speaker B: Can I just say we are much better about not derailing that hard. I feel like we're a little better about staying on topic. [00:25:42] Speaker C: Well, long time. [00:25:44] Speaker A: Let's stay on topic for a sec because one of Kyle's best predictions he's ever had I found randomly skimming through our sounder no idea what you're going to talk about and I'm really excited for you to hear it. [00:25:58] Speaker C: I think it's. It's astounding to me because it changes the future. The line of what is possible in the future so that maybe five years from now we're going to. We're gonna find out that such and such team. Who know. I don't know which team it'll be. You know maybe it'll be the Dolphins or the Raiders or. Or the Falcons or something. Wherever they're gonna be. Wherever Taylor Heinecke something didn't work out and they're starting Sam Darnold and Sam Darnold goes out there. [00:26:31] Speaker A: Wow, what a name. [00:26:31] Speaker C: And destroys. [00:26:36] Speaker A: One of the best takes. One of the best takes we've had on this pod is no memories. Sam Darnold was going to be a great quarterback in the NFL for some random team. [00:26:48] Speaker C: I have no idea. [00:26:49] Speaker B: It's because you weren't serious when you said it. It was super hopeful. [00:26:55] Speaker C: I have no memory of this. No memory whatsoever of saying that or the context. [00:26:58] Speaker B: I love that it was. [00:26:59] Speaker C: I was never high on Sam Darnold. Not once. [00:27:02] Speaker B: I love that it says destroyed because. [00:27:04] Speaker A: Destroyed regular season was great. I mean we had moments of wondering if he was mvp. [00:27:10] Speaker B: He had one bad game. Happened to be a bad time to have that bad game but it was really only one bad game. [00:27:16] Speaker A: Now crazy. Speaking of out of context like my. One of my favorite. Ian out of context. I have a very short clip and I just want you to think where did this take place in our history of the pod as we talk a lot about the Lions. [00:27:33] Speaker B: I mean Lions fans can be. We can be babies. But I think we have a right to be babies. [00:27:40] Speaker C: Let me hear. [00:27:42] Speaker A: Play that one more time for the listeners instead of going back 15 seconds to make sure you Heard that correctly. Let's make sure we hear it one more time. [00:27:50] Speaker B: I mean, Lions fans can be. We can be babies, but I think we have a right to be babies. [00:27:57] Speaker A: Where do you think that that was? Because I have it written down. [00:27:59] Speaker B: This is definitely. If I'm. If I'm referring to us as babies, we're complaining. [00:28:04] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:28:04] Speaker B: We're whining about a ref. Most likely. [00:28:07] Speaker A: Okay. [00:28:07] Speaker B: I'm gonna say this was the Dallas game last. The season we went to the NFL. [00:28:13] Speaker C: When he didn't declare. [00:28:15] Speaker B: No, when he did declare eligible, but they missed it and then they got the touchdown or the two point conversion, I think is what it. It was a two point conversion and they would have won that game. [00:28:26] Speaker A: And it's probably one of my favorite small clips that we have of just we can be babies, but we deserve to be babies. It's just very simple. [00:28:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:36] Speaker A: And I enjoyed it. Just like I enjoyed my very, very bad take of a certain head coach that spurred this whole idea for me. But I think the first head coach. I'm sticking with it. I said it early in the year and I got. I've been reiterating. Oh, yeah, Nick Sirianni is going to get fired. I don't know if he'll make it to the body. Won a Super Bowl. He won a Super Bowl. [00:29:00] Speaker B: Was that last. That was last. [00:29:01] Speaker A: Last year. Last year. [00:29:03] Speaker B: That must have been when they were. Was that the one where they struggled and almost lost against. [00:29:08] Speaker A: They went 2 and 2 to start last season. They lost Arizona 31 7. They lost 17 to 16 in week two. Like they looked terrible. Like they were contemplating. Are we bringing Kellen Morin to be the head coach and take over for Sirianni? [00:29:26] Speaker B: Yeah, they did have a rough start. Look how that turned out for him. [00:29:28] Speaker C: I know. [00:29:30] Speaker A: And I'm just going to kind of bury on myself a little bit here because I. We all love Mike Vrabel. [00:29:36] Speaker C: Yes. [00:29:36] Speaker A: This is a Mike Vrabel pro. Mike Vrabel Potter for you and I. [00:29:40] Speaker C: Who can say his last name? [00:29:42] Speaker A: Go ahead. I didn't get the sounder of Ian incorrectly saying variable, which is very, very early in our pod. Screwed up, variable rubble. But let's hear. Let's hear what. [00:29:54] Speaker C: I shouldn't have gone there. [00:29:55] Speaker B: I don't even remember what I said. [00:29:56] Speaker C: I apologize. [00:29:57] Speaker A: Let's hear what I had to say about Mike Vrabel. Mike Vrabel or the Titans. [00:30:04] Speaker B: I can kind of understand because they are kind of staggering, but they're doing. [00:30:08] Speaker A: One of these classic NFL moves. You know what Move they did this off season that's gonna potentially give Mike Vrabel more years. They drafted a young quarterback. Oh, whoa, whoa. That was Tannehill. That was Tannhill. I remember. I'm the guy. I made him good. I'll do the same thing with Malik Willis. Oh. So. Oh, my gosh. I thought Mike Vrabel was gonna fix Malik Willis. [00:30:33] Speaker C: Wow. [00:30:33] Speaker B: Well, you know who almost who pretty much, I don't want to say did fix Malik, but made him look pretty good. [00:30:42] Speaker C: Yeah, right. He's still not starting quarterback. I mean. [00:30:47] Speaker B: No, probably. [00:30:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:48] Speaker B: But he was a great backup. [00:30:50] Speaker C: Didn't last much longer after that take either at Tennessee. [00:30:53] Speaker A: So there's one thing that we had consistently done throughout our pod, and it's we would make these grand gestures, and then at the very end, someone would give a very sharp take about something that had nothing to do with that. It would be like, I think I give you, like, a very long sentence about strawberries. And then like, you would just finish and be like, yeah, I'm thinking about putting a fence up tomorrow. And that's how it would just end. And we're gonna go back in memory, and we finally got to hear Kyle. [00:31:21] Speaker C: These are our awkward moments. [00:31:23] Speaker A: We finally got to hear Kyle talk about Aaron Rodgers in the packers, because for years on our pod, Kyle would never talk Packers. So let's go down memory lane and hear a little bit of the packers and Aaron Rodgers from Kyle Sally. [00:31:37] Speaker C: The packers, they could very realistically be losing the league's most valuable player, and no amount of draft picks are going to replace that guy. They are second worst in the league in terms of cap space. So they. The possibility for them to get more talent on the team, like, really meaningful, proven talent, is basically out of the question. They're gonna have to work. To even bring back the team they have is almost impossible. [00:32:13] Speaker A: The Bears are winning that division next year. I don't know. You're right. [00:32:19] Speaker C: I'm skeptical right now. Skeptical it could happen. [00:32:22] Speaker B: The. [00:32:24] Speaker A: The bet, I just. Out of nowhere, out of nowhere, you were talking about Rogers, and I just said, the Bears are gonna win that division. [00:32:33] Speaker B: Both of those were bad takes, actually. [00:32:36] Speaker A: Very bad takes. I was very high on Justin Fields. This is very high on Justin Fields. [00:32:42] Speaker B: Don't worry. You have time to get re high on him. [00:32:44] Speaker C: I don't feel like my take was that dumb. Like, seriously, they were back to back number one seeds. [00:32:50] Speaker A: It's more funny that you were like, we've lost Rogers. And now if I asked you, how hopeful do you feel about the packers right now in their situation, I'd say they're a contender, their contender in the conference that anybody could come out of. I mean, they got some strength in there, but like, for sure, the packers, they have Jordan Love. He's played great. And we're very somber at losing Aaron Rodgers, one of the greatest quarterbacks in packers history to go to now, what could be. Also a Hall of Fame quarterback. [00:33:23] Speaker B: Yeah, Packers. [00:33:25] Speaker A: I think. [00:33:26] Speaker B: I think the packers cut ties with Aaron Rodgers at the right time. I really, I really think they did. And it's hard to see that at the time though, because it's like they're losing a Hall of Fame quarterback. Like, it's like the Patriots moving on from Tom Brady all over again. [00:33:41] Speaker C: I totally still contend that and I still. That kind of like hold. This is to be my perspective. Following them very closely during the height of their success in the like early 2000s, I still think they squandered their window. [00:33:59] Speaker A: Oh, for sure. Their window got shut by themselves. [00:34:02] Speaker C: Like they were. They were so close. [00:34:04] Speaker B: They had multiple NFC Championship game appearances where they probably should have won. [00:34:08] Speaker C: Yeah. When you get back to back number one seeds when your quarterback is like at a incredible level, there was the possibility Adams and you got this like this whole. This great team and this great coach and I think they squandered it. I think that there were opportunities to lean in. Like, I love Jordan Love, but I question, like, well, what if they would have added a missing piece for then instead of investing in the future? They might have gotten a Super Bowl. [00:34:36] Speaker A: And we didn't talk a lot of packers, but there was one. Who's the team we've talked about the most on this pod? [00:34:41] Speaker B: Probably the Lions. [00:34:42] Speaker A: The Lions. And there is one person that consistently has given us the same takes, but this week wrote something indifferent. Can you do me a favor? We're going to fast forward. I'd like you to tell us currently what your dad wrote into the pod. Is this the first time we have ever heard this from him? Because I'm going to tell you what he did every other time. Go ahead. What did he currently write in this week as a take for us, both. [00:35:08] Speaker B: My dad and Addison. The Lions are going to win the Super Bowl. [00:35:12] Speaker A: Wow. [00:35:13] Speaker B: This year. [00:35:13] Speaker A: Well, let's go back in memory lane and hear Tim DeWitt's first take on the pod. I love that. The first opportunity we got to hear from you, Tim. By the way, congrats on your retirement. We're all very proud. Retirement, that's for you. [00:35:31] Speaker C: These are Our listeners, congratulations. [00:35:34] Speaker A: We're super happy for you. [00:35:35] Speaker B: You did it. [00:35:37] Speaker A: The first opportunity we had to hear from you. They're overhyped. He just writes in. They are overhyped. He wrote in four words to us. That's his first. That's our first year in 2021. Overhyped after they won a single game. They won one game to start the year and overhyped. Sitting back down. All these people wrote in long questions, answers, takes. And his was four. Four words. They are over. [00:36:10] Speaker B: 21 would have been. [00:36:12] Speaker C: That's three words. [00:36:13] Speaker B: 2021 would have been Campbell's first year. [00:36:17] Speaker A: Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. It was. It was post biting kneecaps. He won the first game. So those are our trip down memory lane. A little bit of bizarro. You're going to hear me today throughout our pod. I'm going to. I'm going to stay in character for our pod today. So I'm calling. Cool. Collect. But I'm also. I'm not your traditional Marshall today. And I appreciate you guys taking the time to go back and hear a little bit of what our show was. Let's hear about a little bit about what it is. [00:36:46] Speaker C: Okay. [00:36:47] Speaker A: Is there anything you want to hit on before we move on that you thought that was pretty okay. I like that part. That was. We need to do that a little bit more. What's your thoughts on. [00:36:55] Speaker B: I can't believe that Tony Romo take that was the most ridiculous thing. I understand the logic because generally the biggest news in the off season, especially mid summer, is because someone's doing something stupid. I mean, we've already had that happen. So that was unhinged a little. [00:37:15] Speaker A: That was amazing. That was ridiculous out of. And it was like no one was talking about Tony Romo in the episode. He was never brought up that episode. And it was like, you know what I think is gonna happen? He's gonna get crystal meth and potentially kill somebody. And then it ends with. Or it's just gonna be some dude that does it. Like, it wasn't. It was amazing. And the Kyle revelation of Sam Darnold. [00:37:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:39] Speaker A: You might need to get a Sam Darnold jersey. [00:37:41] Speaker C: That's funny. I had. I have no memory of ever saying anything like that, but it's the kind of prediction that I would make. Just like observing patterns. But like, did you have anymore? [00:37:50] Speaker A: No, that's. That's what we got. [00:37:51] Speaker C: There are a couple that come to mind as, like the moments that I will never forget from our pot. I thought you were gonna bust out Ian's old Lamar. Take God. [00:38:03] Speaker A: I couldn't get a good sounder. That was succinct. It was a lot of us interrupting each other about. [00:38:07] Speaker B: There was a lot of. That was such a controversial topic. [00:38:11] Speaker A: We got legitimately. We had to start one of our podcasts off with a disclaimer of you and I saying we were still friends. Episode five of our podcast, this Got Heated, ended so poorly. Really? It ended so bad. We took separate rides on the elevator down from the recording studio. And the next part. But the next episode, we had to, like, talk out. Now you can be a Michigan fan, and while I hate your team, I still love you. And I'm like, but if you're a Bears fan, I'm not cool with that. And everyone laughed, and that was kind of the ice that broke. But it was really. We got heated at the beginning. [00:38:50] Speaker C: Oh, my God. I don't think we were as good at this podcasting. [00:38:52] Speaker B: No, we were much more. [00:38:54] Speaker C: I think it's got a little more jabby, a little more personal. We had, you know, probably ego or insecurity issues. A lot of things were just, like, insecure. Okay. I was pretty. I was pretty insecure. You guys have always watched a lot more football than me. [00:39:07] Speaker B: I felt like I was super confident in myself. [00:39:10] Speaker C: I didn't belong, but I love that. Like, I thought the. Those kinds of fights were great. I love. I thought you were gonna bust out the commish when. When the commission called in and Jimmy G. Was the Niners quarterback and they were doing really well. And we asked him, like, what quarterbacks would you take over? [00:39:33] Speaker A: Oh, I did hear that part. [00:39:35] Speaker C: And he said Brady openly. He said, would I take Mahomes? [00:39:40] Speaker A: Yeah, that was. Oh, yeah, I did hear that. Yeah. That's a good sounder. [00:39:44] Speaker C: Questioning. Questioning whether whether that was a fair substitution. [00:39:49] Speaker B: It's so funny, like, when you go back and you listen to those. Like, hindsight's 20 20. But it's always just like so many of us in our fandom as fans, live in the moment. [00:40:02] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:40:03] Speaker B: You just live in the moment, and you just don't even think logically about the team. [00:40:07] Speaker A: We even had an episode that dropped. That was just a Commish Report. [00:40:11] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:40:12] Speaker A: And it was because Ian had his second child. Oh, yeah. It's funny to think of how your family has grown throughout doing this podcast. [00:40:21] Speaker C: Performative stuff on the show. Like, it would be fun to do. There was a lot of greatest hits. [00:40:25] Speaker A: We did poems. [00:40:26] Speaker B: There was a lot of poems. [00:40:29] Speaker C: I played a blues song before on the guitar The Bird team blues. [00:40:34] Speaker A: Ian every time said, yeah, I feel bad. I just. I don't bring anything like that. And then every time you just be like, yeah, I just don't got that in me. Like, we want to feel bad for you or something that you didn't have a poem or a song. [00:40:49] Speaker B: One time you guys both secretly did. This came to the pod, and then I felt like an idiot. [00:40:56] Speaker C: Oh, you were mad about it. [00:40:57] Speaker B: I was mad because then I was like, well, I got nothing. And I remember being annoyed by that. [00:41:03] Speaker C: It's always, you know, it's always Marshall's idea. Like, let's not tell the inn and. [00:41:06] Speaker A: Let'S just do this. Exactly what I did with this shirt today as I texted Kyle, get your phone ready. [00:41:11] Speaker B: That's a nice surprise. [00:41:13] Speaker A: I thought this was a nice surprise as well. [00:41:15] Speaker B: Oh, no, this was great. This is great. [00:41:17] Speaker C: No, this is great. Oh, you're copying me too, because I pulled my shirt off and had a lion's thing to reveal on. On. [00:41:23] Speaker A: Oh, I forgot about that. [00:41:24] Speaker C: Yeah, Well, I feel like. [00:41:26] Speaker B: Have a moment. [00:41:27] Speaker A: What's under your sweatshirt? [00:41:28] Speaker B: Oh, you want to do this right now? [00:41:31] Speaker C: Yeah. Oh, take the. Oh, here go. Here goes the jacket. He's got the bay watch. [00:41:35] Speaker B: Baywatch. [00:41:37] Speaker C: Wow. [00:41:37] Speaker A: The F. You're committed, Baywatch. How about it? Well, good. [00:41:43] Speaker C: Sleeveless every time. [00:41:44] Speaker A: One of my favorite things to do in our pod is hear from our listeners. I think before we log off today, we should hear from some of our listeners and what their current questions about today is. What do you think? Yeah. [00:41:56] Speaker B: Yeah, let's do it. [00:41:57] Speaker A: Let's talk. I mean, there's only one team we always talk about the most. It's the Lions. Eric Giannunzio writes in. What's the bigger loss for the Lions? Losing Ben Johnson, losing Aaron Glenn or the retirement of Frank Ragnow? [00:42:09] Speaker B: Easiest answer of my life. [00:42:11] Speaker C: Really? [00:42:12] Speaker B: Frank Ragnow. [00:42:13] Speaker C: Oh, really? [00:42:14] Speaker A: And you put a lot. Listening to our old takes, you put a lot in. Those coordinators, you talked about how them coming back last year was so huge for their team. [00:42:26] Speaker B: It was big. [00:42:27] Speaker A: It was bigger than any player they could draft. Any player they could sign. [00:42:31] Speaker B: Yeah, no, and I still think, I want to be clear. These are all big losses. No doubt about it. [00:42:37] Speaker A: The net negative you're saying is biggest for losing Frank. [00:42:40] Speaker B: I actually think Frank is the bigger impact. The reason why I think Frank is and not the other two first name basis is one. Most of the roster is still there defensively. And I've heard a lot of good things about shepherd and Aaron Glenn. Kind of like in truth with Aaron Glenn, this was the first year I felt really good about him. And then obviously so many injuries. Ben Johnson obviously had two great seasons so loved everything about what he was doing. And I am nervous about what our offense is going to look like but I'm more nervous now because we are losing our offensive line because you lost Zeitler and now you lost Rag. Now they drafted a couple guys, they had mahogany from last year. It played a couple games and did pretty well. But that Lions offense was so successful because of that O line and because we are now losing veteran players like your center. That's a big deal. [00:43:44] Speaker C: Right. [00:43:44] Speaker B: And I think that's going to be a more notable impact especially for someone like Jared Goff who isn't a scrambler. And I actually think that O line like kind of in the middle of his transitional period that's a little nerve wracking. Now what I right do like the Lions have not lost their O line coach. I think it's Haley, he is still there and that gives me more confidence that our rookies are going to be better. But obviously it's all up in the air. Like who knows what's going to happen. [00:44:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean I'll tell you this, Ben Johnson, he has not been a quiet coach. [00:44:22] Speaker B: Oh, and I want to talk, I love but I also love the moves he's made for the Bears. What's the first thing he started doing? [00:44:30] Speaker A: Oh, line. [00:44:30] Speaker B: O line. [00:44:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:32] Speaker B: He like. [00:44:32] Speaker A: No, it's like very well, that's obvious to look at the Bears in the last few years and say what's the thing they miss? Well, Justin Fields could never step up in a pocket and was never confident to because his line sucked. Caleb Williams last year, athleticism having to, you know, hold plays over the line of scrimmage when he should have just thrown them. That's because he was scrambling around because people couldn't get there. So gee, we appreciate the question. Our next question comes in from Justin Matson. I please, all I want you to do is talk about Jameis and how he's going to win a playoff game this year. Justin, Justin, your questions have evolved. I'll say that over the years. They he is, he is a very consistent like curveball. Like I don't know what to expect from Justin's questions and I very much appreciate Justin's a treasure. [00:45:21] Speaker C: He's an important part of the fabric of this show. And like I feel like without Justin, could we even continue this show? I don't know. [00:45:28] Speaker A: I'd probably quit we probably would. [00:45:30] Speaker C: Justin, don't go anywhere. [00:45:31] Speaker B: He's very consistent with the takes and I like it. [00:45:33] Speaker A: But they're consistently all different kinds of questions that I'm just not expecting. [00:45:38] Speaker C: They're fun and tasty. [00:45:39] Speaker A: What do you think about Jameis? Let's answer him. [00:45:41] Speaker C: He's one of my favorite people in the NFL. I feel like he's on the Mount Rushmore of NFL personalities. [00:45:47] Speaker B: That's a great answer. [00:45:48] Speaker A: Do you know that he said in an interview I heard one of his teammates talked about how he gave a pregame speech that started with the Monday Night Football song that Carrie Underwood sings, and it evolved into the Star Spangled Banner and chicken wings, and he finished it with I love you guys. Bring it in. I'm gonna run through a brick wall. [00:46:09] Speaker C: He's so special. But I would. I would give him also credit because we can talk all day about his. His quips and his humor, his personality. He's, he's. He's really, really. [00:46:19] Speaker B: His super bowl coverage was very special. [00:46:22] Speaker C: Very special. I would also grant he's a fun watch on the field because every game with him under center is exciting and it's a roller coaster because he will. [00:46:34] Speaker B: You never know what you're gonna get. [00:46:36] Speaker C: He wants to. He wants to go. [00:46:37] Speaker A: He will. It's amazing. We talked in some of the old recordings we had. It's very fun today in the last few days of spending looking at our old pod, because we talked about Jameis Winston quite a bit and Ian loved that. He's one of the few. Is it 30 and 30? He threw 30 touchdowns and 30 interceptions. My favorite stat of his is he's the only quarterback in NFL history to start and end his time with a team throwing a pick six. His first throw for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers was a pick six and his last one was a pick six. [00:47:09] Speaker C: Legendary. Legendary. It's incredible. But this is not the guy who steps back and throws check downs. [00:47:14] Speaker A: No. Recently, there's a picture of him at training camp and he is scrambling with three people around him and he is holding the ball, running, and the defensive teammate is behind him with his arms up for a touchdown. He's on his own two yard line every play he thinks is going to score. [00:47:35] Speaker C: Yeah, it's amazing. He's fun to watch. [00:47:37] Speaker A: And that delusional confidence I'm good with. [00:47:39] Speaker B: To answer this question, he's on the Giants. Yeah, he's on the Giants. This is how. [00:47:45] Speaker C: Get out of here, Justin. [00:47:45] Speaker B: But the question is asking, how is he going to do it? So this is how he's going to get a winner, he's going to win a cut. He's going to get cut or he's going to get traded. Well, they're not going to try him. They're just going to cut him. They'll cut him, they'll save some money. And then a team, let's say, let's. [00:48:00] Speaker A: Keep this one for the next year. Next year when I do this again. Go ahead. [00:48:05] Speaker B: Let's. Let's pick a team. What would be a team that's in the playoff hunt that we think could be in the playoff hunt, that near the end needs a quarterback, I don't know who's going to have an old guy that could maybe get injured. And they've been pretty decent. [00:48:19] Speaker C: There you go. [00:48:19] Speaker B: The Steelers. [00:48:21] Speaker C: Steelers. Steelers. [00:48:22] Speaker B: Aaron Rodgers does something, maybe retears his Achilles. They need a quarterback. They get Jameis and he just has one of those, like, stretch of games. And it just happens to be right at that pivotal point near the end of the year where he gets them in and he wins a play. He wins Mike Tomlin a playoff game. [00:48:41] Speaker C: I want this to happen. [00:48:42] Speaker A: We're going to end our pod with a little take about Mike Tomlin from Ian. So we're going to hold on to that. We got two fun little questions right here. Travis McCann writes in is summer the best season or are we just trained to think that because as children we get time off from school? Or is it actually the worst season due to the heat and constantly on the go with weekends being filled with everything until the fall? Guys, we've talked a lot about what our favorite season is. Do you think we're tricked here? Is fall the best? Is summer the best? Tell me, Ian, you're a teacher. [00:49:16] Speaker B: So fall and spring have the same, like weather, like climate, temperature. So you could go either one, really. It just kind of depends if you. Which, from my perception, it depends on which one do you think is prettier. Most people like fall because of the changing colors and football and there's a lot of sports going on. [00:49:36] Speaker C: Falls great. [00:49:36] Speaker B: Some people like spring because you have flowers and summer school's almost done and summer's about to start. The temperature's nice. I think spring is too rainy and fall, early fall, tends to be less rainy. I think fall has always been my favorite. [00:49:53] Speaker A: Let's go. Let's go. Now, we talked actually on our pod earlier about. I didn't have a recording, but it's a fun one. We had a question about is buffalo chicken dip exclusive to fall. We spent Six minutes on buffalo chicken dip. So we don't need to rehash that for audiences. The audience is already fluent on our takes of Buffalo chicken dip. But do you think that we are a pod? That is. We're a pod that's exclusively fall. [00:50:20] Speaker C: Right. [00:50:21] Speaker A: If we're thinking about what our favorite. [00:50:23] Speaker C: It's obviously the best season. It's point after season. [00:50:26] Speaker A: That's true. [00:50:27] Speaker C: All right, I like that. [00:50:28] Speaker A: All right, thank you, Travis. [00:50:29] Speaker C: I would say that in our climate, summer is long, and that might be to its detriment to the other seasons. [00:50:38] Speaker A: I think across the world, it's starting to get. [00:50:40] Speaker C: Fall feels short. [00:50:43] Speaker A: Fall. [00:50:43] Speaker C: And at least where we live in Michigan, fall feels like. It's maybe a month for me between, like, summer winding down and it getting a little bit too cold to be enjoyable. Fall, summer feels like that's six months. [00:50:58] Speaker A: Now we have a listener that wrote in Jamie Oslo, soon to be married. We actually gave dating advice not to Jamie, but to Colleen Anador on our podcast. I don't know if you guys remember that we gave dating advice. [00:51:10] Speaker C: You can write in about anything to this show. [00:51:12] Speaker A: And we just answered. We gave life advice. [00:51:14] Speaker B: I remember that. [00:51:16] Speaker A: And it was very interesting to hear it. [00:51:18] Speaker B: Whatever happened with her? [00:51:20] Speaker C: Did she take advice? [00:51:21] Speaker A: She's doing well with a guy that I met just this past year. Super nice guy. Good for her. But Jamie, Jamie Hasla writes in what's your walk up song? If you were a baseball player, guys. You guys are musically inclined. We spent half, like, a solid six minutes on Weezer songs, and I muted you guys. You got very angry with me. What's your walk up song? It doesn't need to be Weezer. [00:51:47] Speaker C: I'm sexy and I know it. That's probably really. Yeah, yeah. Something with a beat. Something like that. Something a little bit like, you know, like. [00:51:55] Speaker A: Like get the people moving. A little something I think I would do. [00:51:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:52:08] Speaker B: You know that song? [00:52:09] Speaker A: I don't know it at all. [00:52:12] Speaker B: Ferris Bueller's day off. He sees the Ferrari for the first time. He walks in and it's just like. [00:52:17] Speaker A: I got you now. [00:52:18] Speaker C: Okay, Okay. I could see that. [00:52:23] Speaker A: I would have to let the bodies hit the floor. That would be like a banger to walk up to. [00:52:28] Speaker C: I think that walk by Pantera would kind of kick, you know, that would be pretty sick. Cowboys from Hell hoping, oh, maybe that. Maybe that. But I was thinking walk just because I'd probably hope to get walked as a batter because I'm not a great battery. [00:52:43] Speaker A: Well, our listeners wrote in some great things, and and we just appreciate you guys. Hope you enjoyed looking at our trip down memory lane for what our podcast was, see what it will evolve to be in the future. But let's we gotta do this every off season. Yeah. But we got some news that we need to talk about that's going on right now and it really involves a team that's consistently in our news because we're so angry because we don't know how to judge them because somehow we always pick them incorrectly to go 9 and 8. 8, 9, 8 and 8. And that's the Steelers. Ian, break down some Steelers for us. Okay. [00:53:19] Speaker B: So the Steelers obviously are going to be front and center for the media cycle. They were even before the draft because Aaron Rodgers was looking for a new team. Jets decided they wanted to go in a different direction. Loved that Steelers needed a quarterback and this is what I I was bothered by a lot of things with the Steelers and by any means you can jump in and give commentary if you want. I didn't like one. If I'm the Steelers organization and Aaron Rodgers is hanging me out to dry and not giving me an answer and it's the draft and I'm on draft night and I still don't have a starting quarterback. I, I thought the Steelers approach was very weird. To me the entire Shadur Sanders is good or not, I don't actually know. I don't think anybody's going to know that until he's on the field and obviously all the stuff that came out about his slide because he didn't interview well and he didn't throw at the combine. Was that correct? He didn't. [00:54:18] Speaker A: He threw it as pro day though. [00:54:20] Speaker B: Okay, so he threw his pro day but apparently he interviewed terribly, some say. [00:54:26] Speaker A: Even intentionally bad for the Giants and how bad that reflected. You know the Giants have had a lot of drafts where they install plays to quarterbacks. Jackson darts interview of how he did in their pre draft interview is out and it is beautiful. Like it's art. It's like watching Andrew Luck breakdown film with Jon Gruden. I don't know if you guys have ever seen him do the quarterback camps. Like his breakdown with the Giants and their staff was very impressive. So I could only imagine how bad the tape would be for Shador. But the Steelers they had. I feel like this is a collusion if I've ever heard it. [00:55:04] Speaker B: Well it was weird because they had. [00:55:06] Speaker A: To have known that he's waiting this. [00:55:07] Speaker B: Long right in that a certain point. What. What round did they take Will Howard? Was that four or Five. [00:55:14] Speaker A: Fifth. [00:55:15] Speaker B: Fifth round. So they clearly did it just before Sanders went to the Browns, who had just drafted, what, Gabriel something or other. [00:55:22] Speaker A: Dylan Gabriel from Oregon. [00:55:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Which. So I have. That's a whole weird thing to me. That doesn't make sense. It was just strange to me that the Steelers are like, okay, you don't have a quarterback. You're not even going to take a pop fly on Shedeur. And if there's any coach that I think he would actually play well for, it's Tomlin. I feel like that's the perfect coach for Shedeur. [00:55:47] Speaker C: Right. [00:55:48] Speaker B: Honest. He's the coach that I think could handle. He was the only coach that made Antonio Brown look sane. [00:55:53] Speaker A: Look at that locker room, though. That was in there. I mean, that he. He had quite the. Had James Harrison, who was. Who had a lot of, like, crazy NFL hits that are like, could be kicked out of the league. [00:56:07] Speaker C: Former Steelers players. Yeah. Like Le'Veon Bell. [00:56:11] Speaker B: Yeah. It just. I feel like that's the kind of coach that could control and maybe like, bring him up, you know, and probably a team that his dad would probably love that he was on, because that's a great. Like, the. The recognition behind the Steelers is well known, you know, so it just. That was so weird to me. And then they take Will Howard and I don't, like, I don't know if Will Howard's better than Shadur Sanders. Honestly, I don't. [00:56:37] Speaker A: I didn't watch enough Will Howard beat Notre Dame. So I don't have anything bad to say about Will Howard. [00:56:42] Speaker B: So who knows? Maybe they liked Will Howard more than that. But either way, I mean, it just felt like. It's a weird. I felt like the ceiling was higher with shitter on that. So it just didn't make sense. [00:56:51] Speaker C: They've been taking goofy swings since. Since Big Ben left. [00:56:54] Speaker B: Right. And this is my problem with the Steelers is they have never had a clear succession plan. And that this is. I want to be clear. I like Mike Tomlin. I think he is an excellent head coach. I think he needs to go to a new team because I think the Steelers are in, like, limbo right now. But Mike Tomlin inherited his hall of Fame quarterback that won him his super bowl in his second year. He inherited that team. I looked this up. I was a little curious. I'm like, when did. Like, what did the Steelers look like? Early, because that was when a lot of the success for Mike Tomlin was. Was early in his tenure. And I mean, they were. Obviously, their records were quite good. You know, they Went to the super bowl his second year and they won it. And then they went again two years later, I think, and lost to the Packers. That was the one. They lost to the. To Aaron Rodgers. So clearly early on, very good. [00:57:49] Speaker A: Also a lot of early success. Cheap quarterback. We talked a lot about that over the years. [00:57:54] Speaker B: Cheap quarterback. Along with the fact that, oh, Bill Cower built some of this team already. He brought in some of these all star players that were in those games. Troy Palomalo was there. They had a couple. Heinz Ward was already there before Mike Tomlin. I mean, he had. He had a team that he got from Bill Coward when they have Plaxico Burris. [00:58:19] Speaker C: You remember him? [00:58:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I feel like he shot himself, though. [00:58:23] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:58:24] Speaker A: In the leg. [00:58:25] Speaker C: No, I don't remember. [00:58:26] Speaker A: He was in a club. Yeah, he played for the Giants after they won the Super Bowl. Oh, he shot himself in the leg. [00:58:31] Speaker B: That does ring a bell. That does ring a bell. All I'm saying is, like, early on, a lot of the team's success was a lot of these, like, future hall or current hall of Fame players. Some of them are already going to in the hall of Fame. Ben, like him or not, he will find his way in the hall of Fame were guys he never drafted. And I think this was my, like, thing I was looking. And Mike Tomlins never really had to bring up a quarterback. He's never really had to deal with that. [00:59:02] Speaker A: Right. [00:59:03] Speaker B: And I feel like we're starting to see a little bit of May. Like, not that he doesn't know how, but like, he's clearly. He's missing here. Like, they have been a hot mess. Like Ben Rothsberger down like the stretch was terrible. Everybody knew it. Everybody saw the writing on the wall. And they kept putting him out there, right? And they had no. They weren't even drafting anybody. They weren't even looking for anybody. [00:59:28] Speaker A: Can I ask you a question? Do you. And maybe this isn't the time to ask it as we're finishing 59 minutes into the pod right now, but is this. How much responsibility do you put in formulating a team on a coach? He's not drafting. He's not the GMs. That's what I was just gonna say in their GM. Kevin Colbert was there from 2000 to 2021. I mean, that's the guy who built. And he was there for both head coaches. He was there for both two championships. He was there for three. [00:59:59] Speaker B: You can't tell me that a head. [01:00:01] Speaker A: Coach, they have some say for sure. [01:00:03] Speaker B: Especially with the Most important position. I mean you can't tell me that he didn't have a choice in who they were going to draft. That they Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett we're going to be. [01:00:16] Speaker C: Of course they have a voice. [01:00:17] Speaker A: Right. [01:00:18] Speaker C: So they clearly their job to do is their job to take the roster they're given and make the best. [01:00:22] Speaker B: So whether. [01:00:23] Speaker A: But if you know your coach is something, then knowing that Shador could handle. Be handled better in the Steelers locker room with Mike Tomlin. That's kind of Ian's point. I mean I understand both of it, but I think there has to be some grace that's given to Mike Tomlin to say he's. He has a voice. [01:00:39] Speaker B: And I did think about this. I wasn't like completely. [01:00:41] Speaker A: I'm just in general how much, how much. If you're giving a pie chart, what percentage are you giving the voice of the coach for roster moves? Not everyone is Belichick who could right. Willy nilly get rid or add people. And we would wonder what did the Patriots know? Yeah. Correct. [01:00:58] Speaker C: In some cases the coach like Pete Carroll was very much in charge in Seattle, especially late in his tenure for sure. Effectively making all the decisions for certain positions. [01:01:09] Speaker B: Maybe. I wouldn't say it's the coach. It's probably more the gm. Right. It's kind of like, you know, Brad Holmes gets a lot more credit I think for the Lions than I think Dan Campbell does in terms of at least the draft classes. But obviously we know Dan Campbell equally enjoyed some of those picks. Same thing here. I. I got to imagine for some of their early picks and the really important positions like T.J. watt, you know. [01:01:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:36] Speaker B: I'm sure Mike Tomlin knew that that was a. That they got to get him, you know, that that was a no brainer. And the quarterbacks, Mason Rudolph, I think they drafted him. What year did they draft him? They were still playing Ben Roethlisberger three. [01:01:51] Speaker A: Years ago and they were trying to use Rudolph as like their SO 2021 draft. [01:01:57] Speaker B: And then they did Kenny Pickett a little after that. Right. And Pickett had, I think if I remember was there was a little bit more noise around him than there was Rudolph. [01:02:07] Speaker A: Well, he's a hometown guy. He was playing in Pitt. [01:02:09] Speaker B: He played in Pitt rough in Pittsburgh, so. [01:02:12] Speaker C: So they liked him more than the rest of the league. [01:02:14] Speaker A: Yeah, he. He had some inflated. But I mean like even think of. [01:02:18] Speaker B: Now I just feel like this team has no plan. Their plan was okay, we're not going to do anything in the draft and fine, this Draft class for quarterbacks was pretty low on a lot of people's radar. Everyone's looking to next year. Fine. If that's the case, why are you bringing in Aaron Rodgers then? Why not just take the season and get yourself a nice hired draft pick? [01:02:40] Speaker A: I just don't think that there's teams that are going to openly tank. Because think of it this way, if you're saying the same thing about Mike Tomlin, why are we not saying the same things about Brian Dabel, who has four quarterbacks, Russ Jameis, Winston Jackson Dart, Tommy DeVito all on his roster? I mean, does he have a say? Does he get yelled at for the. [01:03:01] Speaker B: Only reason why we're not talking about him is because the Giants suck and everybody already thought he should have been fired. That's why we're not talking about so. [01:03:08] Speaker A: Is your point more that Mike Tomlin needs to be fired? [01:03:11] Speaker B: My point is that Mike Tomlin has been coaching the Steelers for a long time and there's a lot of success there. But we already know he hasn't won a playoff game since 2017. And in fact I actually think it's important to recognize that the Steelers of old is not the Steelers of today. We for sure, we grew up in a time period where the Steelers were like what the Buffalo Bills and the Ravens are now. Yeah, you know, they like the kids that I teach in middle school, they think the Steelers are a mid team at best. They never knew. [01:03:44] Speaker C: How much of this do we know can we attribute to ownership? Setting ownership is influential over the direction that a franchise will take and that's something that has persisted throughout the decades. And this is a team that we don't have. We don't have a history of them going through rebuilds or making really aggressive moves to try and change their fortunes like many other franchises will or play this game as well. [01:04:07] Speaker B: Here's what's crazy about, you know, like the Steelers that we're talking about them in a negative light. They are still in the playoffs even in a bad year. Half the time like this is a good low by the way, for most teams to have. [01:04:22] Speaker C: It's remarkable. [01:04:23] Speaker A: It's a good we talked about what your stress level would be as the Lions were winning four games in a row for the first time in three years. Like we were, we were literally asking you like how are you going to handle your health? [01:04:34] Speaker B: Last year was hard. [01:04:36] Speaker A: This is how our season started of what is your physical health as alliance fan going to be? So like as a Pittsburgh Seal, like you're just good Enough to be in the playoffs, but never good enough to get someone that could rebuild your team. That's kind of one of the. [01:04:50] Speaker B: Do you want to know what team that sounds like now? This would have been what this team was when we were growing up. What, the Bengals? [01:05:00] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, for sure. [01:05:01] Speaker B: The Bengals were like in limbo where they. Marvin. [01:05:05] Speaker A: Funny thing about them, they were always a team that the owner wanted to just make money. [01:05:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:10] Speaker A: Like he would not. The first high pick contract was Carson Palmer. [01:05:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:05:14] Speaker B: My biggest beef, I guess, with the Aaron Rodgers signing, like, fine, you know, I think for the long run, it's actually a hindrance to this team because in what way does this help? In what way? You know, he's not the future. Well, so you think you're going to go and win a Super Bowl? Come on. Like, we know that this team isn't ready to. They don't have. They have too many holes for this team to win a Super Bowl. What, are they going to win a playoff game? Maybe. Congrats. Now you're drafting low down the totem pole again. Like, I. That's why I hate this move. It's not because I don't understand that maybe Aaron Rodgers has something left in the tank. He might. And you want to know what? They might win a playoff game because he is an upgrade against an old grizzled veteran like Russell Wilson. I would take the old Aaron Rodgers over the old Russell Wilson. And by that logic, yeah, I think they probably could win a playoff game, but they're not making a deep run. And I just. That's why I'm, like, confused by this choice because it just feels like such a. Well, we're going to sell some tickets. [01:06:22] Speaker A: We talked about living in the moment as a fan. Sometimes owners, sometimes GMs, and sometimes coaches and players also live in that moment. Moment. [01:06:30] Speaker B: And I'm worried, like, what Will Howard's. Will. Will Howard's gonna be the guy. [01:06:35] Speaker A: Maybe he might be. Take this. Take. What is your take on Will Howard? [01:06:40] Speaker B: I. [01:06:40] Speaker A: Give us your. Do you think he's gonna suck? [01:06:43] Speaker B: I'm worried. [01:06:44] Speaker A: Get spicy. [01:06:45] Speaker B: And this is kind of where the whole point was going. [01:06:47] Speaker C: Yeah, say something that we can play. [01:06:49] Speaker B: I'm worried that Mike Tomlin has never actually shown that he knows how to build up and create a good quarterback. He inherited his good one and he hasn't had to do that. And he hasn't done anything with the quarterbacks that they have drafted under his tenure since. And so I am actually worried that Will Howard isn't going to be that guy because they don't know how to groom him up. [01:07:14] Speaker A: And if you've heard anything from our podcast, we are going to have a Pittsburgh Steelers Will Howard MVP season based on. Based on how we have gone through things. [01:07:25] Speaker B: I would love to be wrong. I would actually love to see the Steelers relevant again because I actually liked them growing up, watching them. Jerome Bettis, the bus guy, Heinz Ward. I was rooting for that Antoine Randall. Yes, Antoine Randall. [01:07:42] Speaker A: What a great game. [01:07:43] Speaker C: And he's coaching for the Lions. [01:07:46] Speaker A: The Bears now. [01:07:48] Speaker B: He was with the Lions. [01:07:49] Speaker A: He was with the Lions, but now. [01:07:50] Speaker B: He'S with the Bears. [01:07:51] Speaker C: Oh my God. [01:07:52] Speaker A: Troy Palomalu. Yes. [01:07:54] Speaker B: Oh, that hair. [01:07:55] Speaker C: Yes, for sure. [01:07:55] Speaker B: The moves. I mean, that team was legendary back then. [01:07:58] Speaker A: Legend. Wait for it. [01:08:00] Speaker B: Dairy. [01:08:01] Speaker C: The question, the. The comparison that I really like. I feel like there's a documentary to be made or like a substantive conversation we had about coaches. And that's the trio of Mike Tomlin, Mike McCarthy and Sean Payton. Oh, those three all assumed their positions around the same time in like 05 06ish, if my memory serves me correctly. Like one was a year earlier, I think in the next two or the next year. So these three coaches have a very similar career trajectory in that they early. [01:08:35] Speaker B: Play early super bowl wins. [01:08:37] Speaker C: They each, you know, had. Could contribute a lot of their success to a Hall of Fame quarterback for the majority of their tenure. Or Mike McCarthy had Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben played under center for the Steelers for. Under Mike Tomlin and Sean Payton at Dr. Brees all those years. These are high performing. These are the top quarterbacks in the NFL many years, all winning MVPs and so on. And they each won a Super bowl early in their tenure and never again, never again had like meaningful success or even a Super bowl appearance. Tomlin has two appearances. The rest, they were like super early one. To my. If my memories. Did the Saints return to the Super Bowl a second time? [01:09:16] Speaker A: No, no, they. [01:09:17] Speaker B: I think the closest they got was. [01:09:19] Speaker A: Yeah, a couple. Well, the closest they won. [01:09:21] Speaker B: Well, no, I mean since then, all. [01:09:23] Speaker C: Three of these had. No, they had far more winning. [01:09:26] Speaker A: It was bounty gate. [01:09:28] Speaker B: That was the one that they. [01:09:29] Speaker A: That's the one. That's when they won. [01:09:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:31] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, they won after bounty gate. [01:09:34] Speaker C: Right. But all three of these coaches. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Very similar careers, overwhelmingly winning seasons wherever they've gone. Exceeding expectations, doing great things, rarely losing seasons between the three of them. And still Mike McCarthy is not a head coach today. But otherwise they've all basically always been there. And I'M very interested in, like, contrasting the three of them because of the similarities of their arc and that. [01:10:05] Speaker B: That's a really good, like, ones to bring up because all three of them with their subsequent quarterbacks have been pretty middling. [01:10:14] Speaker C: I mean, some of them, like McCarthy, has had good success in Dallas. They've won overwhelming playoff games count as success. [01:10:22] Speaker A: Would you rather have a great offensive or a great team that's in the regular season that loses and is upset at their own place? [01:10:30] Speaker C: Yes. I mean, that's where the argument is kind of interesting and a little contentious and stuff like that. But, like, he had a ton of regular season success with the Packers, a ton of regular season success with the Cowboys, and really a lot of Tomlin. [01:10:45] Speaker B: I don't really want to, like, come at this as, like, Tomlin sucks because I don't actually believe that. I do think he's a good head coach, but I just. I just feel like they're stuck. And I felt like this last year, and I still think that's going to be the case. I don't think they've done anything to prove that otherwise. [01:11:03] Speaker A: Would you rather have. You know how they do the quarterbacks documentary? It's coming out soon. I just saw a recent trailer of it that has golf in it. For this upcoming Netflix season of quarterbacks, would you rather have the threesome of those quarter of those three coaches that you just named Tomlin, McCarthy and Sean Payton, or would you have. Or rather have Shanahan, McVeigh and Lafleur? Right. [01:11:30] Speaker C: That's what I. That's the point I was just going to say is, like, what's the equivalent of these three? Like, if this. If this story plays out again, like, 15 years from now, we could be saying, oh, there's McVeigh and there's LaFleur and there's. Shannon is an option. He's a little older. I was there trying to think of somebody who was younger. Sirianni maybe, like, won a Super bowl early in their coaching tenure. Now here we are a decade and a half later, and they've just had a lot of regular seasons. Yes. You know, all that could happen. They could rest on those laurels. Sirianni could continue to be a head coach for many years to come, riding basically on that success. The same with McVeigh. McVeigh doesn't need to win another super bowl to keep a head coaching job. [01:12:09] Speaker B: For me, I don't actually think Sirianni's got that luxury with the Eagles. [01:12:14] Speaker A: Those Eagles fans are different. There's people Trying to fire him in week three. [01:12:20] Speaker B: The reason is. [01:12:20] Speaker A: Is because the reason is. [01:12:22] Speaker B: Already seen that play out with Peterson. We literally already saw that. They won him. His. They won their first super bowl with him, and then, like, what, two, three years later, he's gone. [01:12:31] Speaker C: That is fair. That is fair. So it might be different. McVeigh is not getting fired. I'll say that. [01:12:37] Speaker B: I. Can we do early hot takes right now? I got some feelings. I think the Rams might be. They could be what? [01:12:52] Speaker C: It could be what? Oh, don't leave us hanging. What could they be? [01:12:55] Speaker B: I think the. [01:12:57] Speaker C: Oh, what could they be? [01:12:58] Speaker B: I don't know if I want to say it. [01:12:59] Speaker A: Do it. [01:13:01] Speaker B: All right, I'll put it down. I'll put it down. On record. I think the Rams are going to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. [01:13:05] Speaker A: You. [01:13:07] Speaker B: I have watched nothing but Jared Verse highlights for, like, two days straight. [01:13:14] Speaker C: Out with Aaron Donald. [01:13:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Let me just tell you, that team has got a young defense that looked good last year, and I think they're gonna look good this year. And I. I watched a clip of Sean McVeigh showing his team some highlight reels of Devonte Adams trying to get the team hyped. And the look on Stafford's face was pure joy. You could tell this team was excited. And I think they. I think they have a good team over Stafford. [01:13:43] Speaker C: Throw into devonte. I can't believe this is. I know. I know. But Stafford and Devonte were squared off rivals for you. [01:13:51] Speaker B: I know. So he's got to be loving. And so that's why there was an. [01:13:54] Speaker A: Offensive lineman that said, like, is there a player that, like, made you want to retire? He just recently retired from the NFL. Tarot Armstrong. And he's like, yeah, Jared Verse, he's like, I had three reps on him and was like, I'm good on never playing him again. And he was a rookie. [01:14:11] Speaker B: Rookie. [01:14:12] Speaker A: That's a good take for you. Do you got any take you want to throw on here, Kyle? Just as we go. [01:14:18] Speaker C: Take that. I think we should continue to do this. Dig up the tape segment in future season. I'd like it. You deserve applause and props. This was a lot of work. Listeners recognize Marshall did actually a ton of work to pull up these audio clips, and I'm very grateful. I think it was super fun. [01:14:39] Speaker B: And he's still got a. He's still working, too. He doesn't get that much time off like some of us. [01:14:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:43] Speaker B: This summer I have been healing. [01:14:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Good luck with your knee, Kyle. Let's end our pod by walking down memory lane just one last time to hear our favorite take of the year. [01:15:01] Speaker B: And that's what I think is gonna happen. I think there's gonna be, like, a story out there. You know, this is Tony Romo. He's gonna. They got a little touchy CBS intervention meeting with him, trying to fix his, you know. You know, he's like, I'm going golfing. [01:15:19] Speaker A: I'll see you later. [01:15:20] Speaker B: He gets so depressed about that, gets on a binge of crystal meth, forgets his throats, drives his car through a mall, injures five people, kills someone. Next thing you know, he's got, like, life in prison, charaded his crystal ball for some crystal meth. I believe we're gonna have maybe not Tony Romo, but there's gonna be a dude, there's going to be a big name, and he's going to up somehow.