Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to the Point after show with.
[00:00:02] Speaker B: Kyle Maurer, Marshall heslaw and Ian DeWitt.
[00:00:05] Speaker A: This is the show where the guys.
[00:00:07] Speaker B: Attempt to pick the winners of the weekly NFL games along with some healthy.
[00:00:10] Speaker A: Debate about current topics.
Let's go.
Yo.
[00:00:14] Speaker B: Yup, we're all here.
[00:00:16] Speaker A: Ian.
[00:00:17] Speaker C: Guys, Marshall started from the bottom.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: We didn't forget you last week.
[00:00:23] Speaker A: It was a lot of.
A lot of conversations about houses. It was the. The move after.
[00:00:30] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:00:30] Speaker A: Not the point after.
[00:00:32] Speaker C: Was it too much? Did we overdo it? Give us some feedback. Real live on the show. Tell us, criticize us.
[00:00:37] Speaker A: A lot of dead air.
[00:00:39] Speaker C: No, there was not. Are you serious?
[00:00:41] Speaker A: There was. I went back and listened.
[00:00:43] Speaker C: Oh, man.
[00:00:44] Speaker B: Who listens to this pod twice?
[00:00:45] Speaker C: I'm disappointed.
[00:00:46] Speaker B: Real hardcore stuff, right?
[00:00:47] Speaker C: I thought we did okay.
[00:00:48] Speaker A: I'm kidding.
[00:00:50] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:00:50] Speaker A: You are super sensitive.
[00:00:51] Speaker C: Ah, we tried.
[00:00:54] Speaker A: What?
[00:00:54] Speaker B: No.
[00:00:56] Speaker B: He'S asking a serious question. He wants serious answers.
[00:00:59] Speaker A: I thought there was some dead air at moments.
[00:01:01] Speaker C: Oh, okay. It's hard. A two person.
[00:01:04] Speaker A: Two person show is a different tango.
[00:01:05] Speaker C: It is a little trickier.
[00:01:06] Speaker A: It's a different dance.
[00:01:07] Speaker C: Yeah. And I'm not as used to running that. Like, I kept getting distracted by doing the master control thing that you're now a master at.
[00:01:16] Speaker C: There were times I had to do the point at Ian, which meant keep. Keep going. Say stuff while I shut up and talk.
[00:01:23] Speaker A: Just.
[00:01:23] Speaker C: You just run your mouth for a minute while I figure this.
[00:01:25] Speaker A: You're good at that, right?
[00:01:26] Speaker B: I. I like to think that I can ad lib for a while if needed.
[00:01:30] Speaker C: I can count on you. That for. That's what you bring to this pod.
[00:01:32] Speaker A: That is. That's what you bring.
[00:01:33] Speaker C: You let Marshall and I gather our thoughts while you.
[00:01:36] Speaker B: I don't know if that's a positive thing.
You don't know how to shut up.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: So you're great when you put it like that.
[00:01:44] Speaker C: You know, sometimes I need a break to just think. And you can just keep going. Keep listeners entertained.
[00:01:50] Speaker B: Sometimes. That's stressful. When I know I'm. I'm being forced to talk for a long time.
[00:01:56] Speaker C: It is actually very distracting to try and talk on this pod when you know your other co hosts are not listening.
[00:02:02] Speaker B: I feel like I'm talking to myself.
[00:02:04] Speaker C: I cannot do that. As soon as I feel like you guys are zoning out or not paying attention, I just. I start to lose my ability to speak or think coherently because I feel like I've.
[00:02:18] Speaker B: I was looking away from him.
[00:02:19] Speaker C: Is this thing on?
[00:02:22] Speaker A: We haven't done that yet.
Let's get to our question of the day. I have a few up here for you. I want to kind of hit you with a good one right here. My favorite off the top is if you could have any fictional creature as a pet, which one would you choose? An olive.
Cinema, tv.
[00:02:41] Speaker C: Anything fun. Yeah.
[00:02:41] Speaker A: What would you pick?
[00:02:42] Speaker B: Oh, we're going into, like.
[00:02:44] Speaker C: Yeah. Movies.
[00:02:45] Speaker B: And you could pick a book.
[00:02:46] Speaker A: You could pick. I mean, your guys are really nerdy.
[00:02:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
It comes to mind the, like being a dragon rider in the. In the Inheritance series, the Aragon books.
[00:02:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:58] Speaker C: Because having. It's not really a pet because it's another. It's just another sentient being. A partner. Yeah, really, it is. It's a pet would not be a fair description, but they have this telepathic connection so they can hear each other's thoughts and just communicate over great distances and.
[00:03:12] Speaker A: And then.
[00:03:13] Speaker C: And then it's a dragon that you can ride.
[00:03:14] Speaker B: I would love one of the eagles from Lord of the Rings.
[00:03:18] Speaker A: I thought you were going to say equally from Peacemaker.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: I don't know what. Peacemaker.
[00:03:22] Speaker C: That could be good.
[00:03:23] Speaker B: I've never actually.
[00:03:24] Speaker C: Buckbeak came to mind as a hippogriff.
[00:03:27] Speaker A: Right.
[00:03:27] Speaker C: Yeah. Right.
[00:03:28] Speaker B: I do like Papa Potomus.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: I do like a good Buckbeak. I'm going.
[00:03:33] Speaker A: I'm gonna go either.
I'm going Puss in Boots.
[00:03:37] Speaker C: Really? Okay. All right.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: For mercy.
[00:03:41] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:03:42] Speaker B: I was not expecting that. So that kind of took me off guard there for a second.
[00:03:45] Speaker A: I really liked in the second movie, he, like, when they're arrested.
[00:03:51] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:52] Speaker A: He's like cat brutality. And. Yeah, it's a very actually like, whoa. Welcome to what the world is today. On a different, less serious note, if you could meet any historical figure, who would it be? What would you ask?
[00:04:04] Speaker C: Oh, man. Have we ever done this question before?
[00:04:06] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:04:06] Speaker A: Yeah, this is a local figure is a little different. We've done it in terms of NFL people.
[00:04:11] Speaker C: Sure.
[00:04:11] Speaker A: That's the way a lot of you guys. I remember you guys talked about. John Madden was one of them that you guys talked about.
[00:04:17] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:18] Speaker A: Is there anybody. You guys are kind of history buffs. You guys love a good documentary.
[00:04:22] Speaker B: I do like documentary. History buff is a stretch for me. Okay, well, I'll say that. I. I do have one.
[00:04:28] Speaker C: Cleopatra? Is that what you're thinking?
[00:04:30] Speaker B: No, no, not Cleopatra.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:04:35] Speaker B: Coming at you.
[00:04:38] Speaker B: I don't want to go too stereotypical. Like, of course, like, Jesus would be, you know, great.
[00:04:44] Speaker C: Yeah, it'd be pretty cool.
[00:04:44] Speaker B: That would be legit.
[00:04:46] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:46] Speaker B: So.
And I don't know how you top that. So that just feels like it's cheating.
[00:04:50] Speaker C: Yeah, you got this. You get. There's creativity points out, some creativity points.
[00:04:54] Speaker B: I think I would probably want to go just because I find what he did very. Just, like, in terms of writing, like, very.
[00:05:05] Speaker C: You're gonna say Tolkien.
[00:05:06] Speaker B: Tolkien.
[00:05:06] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah.
[00:05:07] Speaker B: That's just like, the dude in his free time just made another language.
[00:05:12] Speaker C: Right.
[00:05:12] Speaker B: And I. I just want to know. And he was very Catholic. He was very Catholic writer, and I just kind of would love to just pick his brain and talk about it.
[00:05:20] Speaker C: Be fascinating. He was so ahead of his time with all this. Like, everything else after is in his.
[00:05:23] Speaker B: Shadow, and it's just like a story that is so good. Incredible.
[00:05:29] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:05:29] Speaker B: It's produced the best trilogy in movies as far as I'm the Hobbit.
[00:05:35] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:05:36] Speaker B: Well.
[00:05:38] Speaker B: They. I feel like the Hobbit does get a bad rap. The first two movies were not that bad. The third one I knew was in trouble because when they ended the second movie, I was like, there is literally, like, two chapters left in this book.
I was like, there is not much left here.
[00:05:56] Speaker A: How about you, Kyle? What would your answer be? Cleopatra?
[00:05:59] Speaker C: No.
[00:06:01] Speaker A: What's so funny about that? That might have been my answer.
[00:06:03] Speaker C: Well, I was trying. I was just trying to be silly. Okay. I'm just bringing a joke to our. To our podcast.
[00:06:08] Speaker B: Wasn't funny.
[00:06:09] Speaker A: Do you need me to fill time? Point to me. Go ahead.
[00:06:11] Speaker C: I think it. Some of those would not be good because there'd be a bit of a language barrier. So if you go too back far in time, you know, like. Like a Bible character wouldn't speak English, so that would kind of be anticlimactic.
[00:06:23] Speaker A: Meaning just assume you're doing the fire of tongues where you speak and they speak the same language.
[00:06:29] Speaker C: Oh, if you're assuming that. Okay. Wow. Gosh, then it would be. It would be fascinating. Like, one thing, like, okay, so in that sense, the more ancient, the more interesting, you know, like, I went to Europe a couple times and got to tour some very ancient sites, and there are sites that are just so incredibly old that basically everything we know is just a guess, because there's so much you can't figure out. Like, there's. We went to these. These. These, like, mounds in Ireland, and they know that there would have been a village, a town. Like, the evidence suggests that there would have been a city in the area. But this was so long ago, there's literally not a shred of evidence of it in the area anymore. Because this is like, 4,000 years ago.
[00:07:21] Speaker B: So I read something very interesting. I don't mean to interject, but it was on top. It's on the same, like, notion of, like, you. You can't tell the history.
[00:07:30] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:07:30] Speaker B: So Japan. Is it Japan or China?
I can't remember which. It's an ancient cult. Is an Asian culture that does this, though.
[00:07:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:39] Speaker B: And their belief is that they.
The building itself, the actual, like, original brick.
[00:07:48] Speaker B: Lumber, whatever was used to build the original thing.
[00:07:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:52] Speaker B: Isn't as important as, like, the structure and the architecture itself, which is why a lot of, like, their temples will still be built in the same style that they were thousands of years ago.
[00:08:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:05] Speaker B: And so they will literally rebuild an ancient temple.
[00:08:10] Speaker C: Right.
[00:08:10] Speaker B: To. To be new comparatively, to more European cultures, where the actual building. Building itself is what is actually important and more historical. So they let it deteriorate, which is why a building like the Coliseum, they have no real clue on how it was maybe built or some of its functionality.
[00:08:32] Speaker C: Right.
[00:08:33] Speaker B: Because a lot of it's been deteriorated so much over time, and they don't want to do anything to it because it's like, no, we got to keep it as is.
[00:08:41] Speaker A: Welcome to historical after.
[00:08:42] Speaker C: It's so crazy.
[00:08:44] Speaker B: I think that's very interesting how that operates.
[00:08:46] Speaker C: Like, we got to go. We got to go and see into a castle that's, like, a thousand years old. Yeah. And that they already, like, have tons of questions, like, we don't know what was in this area. We're not sure who was doing what and why. And the purpose of this thing. And a lot of it has deteriorated in the thousand years since it was existed. And then we go to other places that are 4,000 years old. Like, we don't even know anything about this civilization. We just know that this pile of rocks was piled by humans, but no other evidence exists of what they did. So my point, to say historical figures, like, the farther back, you could go to, like, the earlier actual societies.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: The original caveman, whoever was, like, leading these societies. Dan Campbell.
[00:09:28] Speaker C: They had. They had rituals. They had purpose. They had.
They traveled. They set up entire civilizations, and we just know nothing about them. It would be so fascinating to go farther and farther, farther back.
[00:09:41] Speaker B: I like that answer.
[00:09:42] Speaker A: My answer, Napoleon Dynamite. I'd like him to know that there is an entire Napoleon complex named after him, just so that he's aware that potentially.
[00:09:52] Speaker B: Can we rewind here for a second?
[00:09:53] Speaker A: What?
[00:09:54] Speaker B: Can we rewind? What. What was his name?
[00:09:56] Speaker A: Napoleon Dynamite.
Did I say Napoleon?
[00:10:01] Speaker B: Yes, you did.
[00:10:02] Speaker A: It's been a long day.
[00:10:03] Speaker C: Guys, you. You didn't mean to say Napoleon Dynamite?
[00:10:07] Speaker B: I was like taken aback for.
[00:10:09] Speaker A: I was like, sorry guys.
[00:10:12] Speaker C: So you actually mean like, like Boney the Napoleon?
[00:10:15] Speaker A: The short dude?
[00:10:16] Speaker C: Yeah. Napoleon Bonaparte.
[00:10:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay.
[00:10:19] Speaker A: I want him to know that there's a whole complex named after him.
Would he change his life if knowing there would be things.
[00:10:26] Speaker C: I'm here thinking Napoleon school here nearby Jackson has some building.
[00:10:31] Speaker C: Tater tots or something.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: Another one would be either Jeffrey Chaucer or Shakespeare. I think those would be very fascinating.
[00:10:38] Speaker A: Wondering why they say the and thou.
[00:10:40] Speaker B: All the time hither thee.
[00:10:42] Speaker C: Right.
[00:10:42] Speaker B: Well, mostly I just want Jeffrey Chaucer to know that there is an epic movie made about some of his work.
[00:10:48] Speaker C: I'm going to be thinking about this question.
[00:10:49] Speaker A: Guys. We're 11 minutes in. We haven't talked about. Instead we're going to finish one more question of the day. If you could have a conversation with any animal, which animal would you choose? I don't want to know what you would ask. I just want to know the animal. Give me your one sentence answer.
3, 2. Are we Kyle go.
[00:11:08] Speaker C: Some kind of migratory bird?
[00:11:11] Speaker A: Thank you.
Very specific. Go ahead.
[00:11:14] Speaker B: I want to talk to Millie.
[00:11:15] Speaker A: Hell yeah.
[00:11:16] Speaker C: Oh, that's a. That's a good one. Your own pet.
[00:11:19] Speaker A: I'm going to take a. A blue whale.
[00:11:23] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:11:26] Speaker C: No, I speak whale.
[00:11:31] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:11:34] Speaker A: Let's go to our mailbag. Our mailbag starts off with Jamie ESL rights in. This is actually a two week old Tad take. Been sitting in the hopper and we need to listen and answer. Ian, it's kind of a shot fired at you a little bit here. Will Miles Garrett be the best defensive player of all time when it's said and done. Pretty impressive to have that.
That title when being a notorious Luther.
Can you think of any other examples out there? Hall of famers on stinker teams.
My best example, Calvin Johnson, of course.
[00:12:09] Speaker B: I mean that is a prime example. Barry Sanders a lot of the times. Prime example. Right.
[00:12:14] Speaker A: This so, so bad that they had to retire early.
[00:12:17] Speaker B: Yes, like painfully so. But I mean he's not wrong. I can. I know well enough to admit this.
[00:12:25] Speaker C: Right.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: Do you think of anybody else that's known as an elite? I mean, can you even think of.
[00:12:31] Speaker B: A Ladanian Thomas LT to Chargers, right? Yeah, he was pretty electric, no pun intended for that team, but they never really did anything.
He was always like the shining moment for that team and it was like nothing really came of it.
[00:12:48] Speaker A: Special.
[00:12:50] Speaker C: I think of like a Reggie Miller, you know, like.
[00:12:54] Speaker C: Or maybe like a Reggie Miller got.
[00:12:55] Speaker A: To the Eastern Conference finals, at least.
[00:12:57] Speaker C: Yeah. As we talked about. Yeah. No, they got to the finals.
[00:13:00] Speaker A: Okay. That's right. I didn't want to say it and be 100 wrong, but I knew I could say Easter Conference.
[00:13:05] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Reggie.
[00:13:08] Speaker A: Reggie.
[00:13:08] Speaker C: Good answer.
[00:13:09] Speaker A: I would think he's a loser, though. I mean, Miles Garrett hasn't even been to the playoffs. Well, he's like.
[00:13:16] Speaker C: To be fair, he's.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: Chris.
[00:13:18] Speaker C: Jamie said when being on a notorious loser, Chris Paul. Chris Paul's a great example.
[00:13:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:23] Speaker C: Classic example.
[00:13:24] Speaker A: Wait, Sucks.
[00:13:25] Speaker B: He's had to have been. No, Miles Garrett's got to have been to the playoffs because they went with.
[00:13:29] Speaker C: Yeah, he's been to the playoffs. Come on.
[00:13:31] Speaker B: At least once.
[00:13:31] Speaker C: Get your fact straight.
[00:13:32] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure.
[00:13:33] Speaker C: Right?
[00:13:33] Speaker B: Because the Browns. Yeah, they. When they won that game.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: Hey, Chris Paul has two. Sorry.
That's right.
[00:13:40] Speaker B: That's what got Kevin Stefanski his, like, Coach of the Year. And for some reason, he's been riding his job on that, despite that team being an absolute cluster salute.
[00:13:51] Speaker A: Let's look at what Justin Matson writes in Speaking of Baker Mayfield. I have a take.
We are going to find out. Baker has been playing with a manageable but debilitating injury.
I think if the Bucks were magically able to reunite with Jameis, oh, they'd be a dangerous contender. I still think the Bucks team is good, but with the Panthers.
[00:14:18] Speaker A: The Panthers?
[00:14:22] Speaker A: What? The Panthers. I had to play every sounder. We had the Pan America's team, the Panthers. But with the Panthers hot on their heels and the leaders seemingly trying to play through something, they could make this the playoffs. What do you think?
[00:14:39] Speaker C: It's very funny. We have to bring up Jamis every episode.
[00:14:42] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh, we do.
However, this is like recency bias, because this take is. It's a fine take in the fact that I agree that the Bucks are definitely in danger. You lose to the Saints, it's fair game, man.
You're fair game in that division. And. But I don't like the take of Jamis. Would make them an immediate dangerous contender.
Because he has been on that team.
[00:15:13] Speaker A: No, I mean, but he's current.
[00:15:16] Speaker B: Current boss. He had a lot of those guys on his team. And then the following year, Brady comes in and wins a Super Bowl. So I actually don't. Don't ride high.
[00:15:28] Speaker C: That was Gronk. That was all Gronk. Come on.
[00:15:30] Speaker B: Don't ride high on the fact that Jam had one good, fun little game.
[00:15:36] Speaker C: How many receiving touchdowns does Pker have? This is true this season But I.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: Just feel like this is like Jamis's ceiling. So high.
So high. His floor so low.
[00:15:49] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:15:49] Speaker B: Solo, of course. From one game to the next.
[00:15:52] Speaker C: That's the fun of it.
[00:15:53] Speaker A: Let's talk about the Panthers.
[00:15:55] Speaker B: Do not.
[00:15:56] Speaker A: I think it's the silliness that Justin wanted to leave us with talking about Jameis. I do think it's a stretch to say he's played with this team when he has not played with their best current wide receiver, which is Abuka. He is their best wide receiver currently on that. Currently.
[00:16:10] Speaker B: But he had a prime. Mike Evans.
[00:16:12] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:16:12] Speaker B: And Godwin.
[00:16:13] Speaker A: Yeah, he did. But this team has still 1000 yard receiver Mike Evans.
A elite Abuka.
Chris Godwin coming back.
Bucky Irving coming back.
Rashad White still healthy. Tristan worse as our right tackle. Like a very, very, very solid team that he did not have. He had Kate out and as a rookie and he had Mike Evans. Those are the two players. I don't think that that's fair. But look at the Panthers.
[00:16:45] Speaker B: I. And I agreed. I said the Panthers. That's a fair.
[00:16:48] Speaker A: Hit me with that.
[00:16:49] Speaker B: I mean, that's a fair take.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: Who would have thought that Bryce under. I mean, I almost called him the Michigan quarterback. Sorry. By the way, speaking of quarterback, do you know that Aiden Chiles is a quarterback for msu?
[00:17:01] Speaker C: Who's that?
[00:17:02] Speaker A: Yeah, he's. That's exactly my point.
[00:17:04] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:17:05] Speaker A: Threw more passing touchdowns than Bryce Underwood this year. Bryce Underwood, $3 million.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:12] Speaker B: Can we back up for a second that a college player is getting $3 million?
[00:17:16] Speaker A: They were doing it before. Come on, don't play that game.
[00:17:19] Speaker B: I will play that game.
[00:17:20] Speaker A: Let's talk about. Let's talk about Bryce Young. Do you know that he's the youngest player in NFL history to have 11 game winning drives?
Oh, wow. Is that a useless stat, Kyle?
[00:17:30] Speaker C: No.
[00:17:30] Speaker A: You like when I throw out a useless stat.
[00:17:31] Speaker C: Now that one's not useless. That's interesting.
[00:17:33] Speaker B: Winning drives are not useless.
[00:17:35] Speaker A: Second place, Josh Allen.
Third place, Payton Manning.
[00:17:41] Speaker C: Wow. The company.
[00:17:43] Speaker A: The Company.
Take a peek at the company. I'm really excited for this Panthers team. The wide receiver who I could never pronounce his name. McMillan. McMillan. Mick Mullen.
[00:17:54] Speaker C: Yeah. TMac the football teamac.
[00:17:57] Speaker A: That guy always open every other play. I'm like, that dude's open.
[00:18:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: Like that's the meme of Jamar Chase is open down there. That's Bryce.
[00:18:06] Speaker B: But they got Rico.
Dow. Rico do pretty.
[00:18:13] Speaker B: The Cowboys let him go, too.
[00:18:14] Speaker A: Chuba Hubard. They let him go.
[00:18:16] Speaker B: Oh, okay. I knew someone got Let go from. From Cowboys and then the Panthers picked him up and immediately was like, it's.
[00:18:24] Speaker A: A two headed monster in their running back. But they are a pretty balanced team. Have a lot of good, well timed turnovers. I enjoy watching the Panthers and they're unique.
[00:18:34] Speaker B: This is a good.
[00:18:35] Speaker C: Believe those words are being spoken.
[00:18:37] Speaker B: This is a good example though of a quarterback that is playing on a bad team that was given enough time to actually sit there and like figure it out.
[00:18:49] Speaker C: Yeah, good. I like that take because we.
[00:18:52] Speaker B: We were just having this conversation not that long ago about JJ McCarthy. It's a conversation going on right now on whether or not is this dude like worth continuing to play, you know, for sure. For sure. With Shadur, it's another good example of a guy.
[00:19:07] Speaker A: I mean he's just been what a game yesterday, Buddy.
[00:19:10] Speaker B: Dude. Yeah, he's short.
[00:19:12] Speaker A: Thomas, did you see he.
He got sacked in a Tennessee Titans player. Did the Shador watch flex really taunt over him?
[00:19:22] Speaker C: Oh wow.
[00:19:23] Speaker A: And then on the last touchdown that he threw, he turned around from his team. I've been waiting for you to say it, Ian. I'm surprised you didn't lead off with it in the show today because I feel like this is kind of your. This is kind of your lane to like who the heck do you think you are?
[00:19:40] Speaker A: And you, you know, he turned around from his team to go celebrate with them, found the guy. I mean, at least walked by seven Tennessee players and did his own taunt on him. I'm like, what a sick move that is. This.
[00:19:57] Speaker B: That's the Dion and his boy right there.
[00:20:01] Speaker A: I loved it.
[00:20:02] Speaker C: But did the other guy come back when they actually won because the Browns lost.
[00:20:07] Speaker B: No, they didn't.
[00:20:08] Speaker A: They did not. They glad you watched the game and commented on it.
[00:20:11] Speaker C: The Titans lost. Oh, they lost.
[00:20:14] Speaker B: You're right. This is actually like the Browns are a perfect example of a team that has just way too good of a defense to be as bad as they are.
[00:20:24] Speaker A: Man, every year though we say this.
[00:20:26] Speaker B: Ah gosh.
[00:20:26] Speaker A: Every year we say this about them.
[00:20:28] Speaker B: All they ever need is just like some sort of non circus.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: Get us 17 points, a competent play.
[00:20:36] Speaker B: And I feel like Shadura's current Titans won that game.
[00:20:40] Speaker A: I know. I just wanted to. You idiot.
[00:20:42] Speaker B: Oh, he did win the game.
[00:20:43] Speaker C: You are the worst.
[00:20:45] Speaker B: Got me sold because I didn't watch the game.
[00:20:48] Speaker A: Oh my gosh, man. That was too good. I was really. You were gonna fact check me? I just wanted to hold out.
[00:20:58] Speaker B: YouTube.
[00:20:59] Speaker A: Oh. Let's get to our take from Tim Dewitt the one and only Tim did. Tim. How'd Tim do in his fantasy game this week?
[00:21:05] Speaker B: He beat me, man. He had Josh Allen. Josh Allen got him almost 40 points on me.
My team is in trouble. I am limping into the number one seed right now. I'm gonna be the Lions of this year and get a nice Q1 exit.
[00:21:20] Speaker A: Josh Allen had several, like, 4th and 16s and just pulled the play out of his like.
[00:21:28] Speaker B: Oh, it was. He just ran off, like, for 50, 000 yards. It was awful. I was watching parts of that game.
I was watching parts of that game and I was like, this is terrible for me. This is awful.
And my team did do great.
[00:21:43] Speaker C: Mine. I gotta tell you, I just got into the playoffs by beating the best team in our office League Mike Theoretical as by far stack team. He's virtually unbeatable. I just smoked him while playing a quarterback. That got me negative two points.
[00:21:59] Speaker C: That's how good my team did.
[00:22:00] Speaker A: What a riddle.
[00:22:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: My team is falling off. I was like, a constant top three, top point getter. And the last, like, three weeks, I'm like, petering out and I'm like, I'm in trouble.
[00:22:11] Speaker A: Join the club, buddy.
[00:22:12] Speaker B: I am in trouble.
Well, while we're on the Bills, my dad's take is if the Bills get to and win the super bowl without having to deal with the Chiefs, they'll be lucky.
[00:22:25] Speaker C: Oh, okay.
[00:22:26] Speaker A: Sure. I mean, yeah.
[00:22:30] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: It's. It's mostly. It's mostly because it's a take on the fact that every year the Bills are stuffed by the Chiefs.
[00:22:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:39] Speaker B: The playoffs. And it's a very common occurrence.
And then everyone's like, the. The potential year they might actually get in without the having to worry about the Chiefs.
You know, they might do it. Right.
[00:22:52] Speaker C: Like, will there be an asterisk next to the afc? There won't be a team this year because. Yeah. Well, like, the Chiefs didn't participate in the postseason, so this doesn't count.
[00:23:01] Speaker B: There's no asterisk next to this.
[00:23:03] Speaker C: It feels like there should be. It feels like the Chief's not in the postseason. Does this even count?
[00:23:08] Speaker A: Guys, we're gonna talk about the Chiefs later. Just so you get. Got a hold.
[00:23:11] Speaker C: Are we really.
[00:23:12] Speaker A: We are going to talk about them? We haven't met our.
[00:23:14] Speaker C: Do we have to?
[00:23:15] Speaker B: The Chiefs, Believe it or not, I believe it. They're not great this year. Oh, they're not great.
[00:23:22] Speaker C: All right.
[00:23:23] Speaker B: They are the Patrick Mahomes show. Travis Kelsey should have retired last year.
[00:23:28] Speaker A: Oh, we're back to this.
[00:23:29] Speaker B: He should have been.
[00:23:30] Speaker C: Are you really. Are you serious?
[00:23:31] Speaker A: Playing the hit.
[00:23:32] Speaker B: He should be gone. He should be gone.
[00:23:33] Speaker C: Do you know where he is in receiving yards among tight ends in the league?
[00:23:36] Speaker B: He should be gone.
[00:23:37] Speaker C: He's second.
[00:23:38] Speaker B: He should be gone.
The amount of time like he back to back throws to him.
[00:23:44] Speaker C: No, listen.
[00:23:45] Speaker B: The problem is interception.
[00:23:47] Speaker C: The problem is not chief slew.
[00:23:50] Speaker B: The problem is not go back to your billionaire fiance.
[00:23:55] Speaker A: That's what it's like when I talk.
[00:23:56] Speaker C: I'll let you finish.
[00:23:58] Speaker C: That's a Taylor Swift joke.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: I get it. Kanye.
[00:24:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:05] Speaker B: Okay, the other question. No.
[00:24:08] Speaker B: You know what?
[00:24:09] Speaker A: Forget it. No.
[00:24:12] Speaker C: I didn't even have.
[00:24:17] Speaker C: Yeah, all you are is mean.
[00:24:19] Speaker B: Go ahead, tell me more about how good Travis Kelsey is.
[00:24:22] Speaker C: No, the problem is he shouldn't be their number one weapon.
He shouldn't be, but he is. If he were their number three weapon, if they had anybody else, they were really a threat.
[00:24:33] Speaker A: I think that good wide receiver chemistry should have.
[00:24:37] Speaker B: Their O line is having some issues this year too.
[00:24:39] Speaker C: It's terrible. It's terrible. But Travis Kelsey is still a perfectly competent tight end. He's just not the offensive juggernaut that is carrying the team offensively like he used to.
[00:24:49] Speaker A: He's not the button hook king that he we saw for 10 years.
[00:24:54] Speaker C: That doesn't mean you're watched. We just had this conversation last week about Aaron Rodgers as well. Like, just because you're not the MVP caliber you used to be, that doesn't mean you're washed. That means you need to be out of the league.
We see this all the time when players achieve unprecedented heights when they reach the peak of their career, then when they can't reach that, they're measured against themselves. And we're all, as a, as a fan community, so quick to say that you're washed, you're done. But descending from like MVP star level down to normal competent level like everybody else doesn't mean you're washed. Does it mean get out of here.
They're still competent players.
[00:25:32] Speaker A: Looking at MVP and like player of our times like those. I think that's the. My question though, we see from like an Aaron Rodgers from Travis Kelsey like those. Those are very big.
[00:25:44] Speaker C: Do you think there's like a. The second string tight end on the Chiefs is better than him?
[00:25:48] Speaker A: No. Grades? No.
[00:25:49] Speaker B: Better than no. But here's the. Here's the question that. I mean, it's always like a what if?
You never get the answer to it, but it is like something that I think plays through people's head is when you give a roster spot to a guy like Travis Kelce, who's still got some juice in him, obviously I'm not. He's not completely washed, but he's not playing at the same level that you require of him. And I would probably. You could make the argument that he's taking up somebody else's potential spot.
[00:26:22] Speaker A: Kind of like, I don't know, an offensive lineman who failed a physical last week.
[00:26:26] Speaker B: Ragnar. Yeah. Rough man.
[00:26:29] Speaker A: That would work.
[00:26:30] Speaker C: But even in his current state, there's. There's maybe. There's maybe like five tight ends who are better in the league than him, let alone on the roster.
[00:26:40] Speaker B: It's just like those what ifs, you know? And I think when people. When he has been such a pivotal force for that team for so long, and quite honestly, the exposure of him in the. The general, like pop culture, I think there is some serious fatigue from him.
[00:26:56] Speaker A: I think fair.
[00:26:57] Speaker C: I think I won't critique that.
[00:26:59] Speaker B: I think people.
[00:27:00] Speaker A: Anything to do with his ability as a football player. No.
[00:27:02] Speaker B: But I think people hate. Watch the crap out of it.
[00:27:04] Speaker A: Dan Campbell's on the TV just as much as Jason or as Jason Kelce and Travis Kelse.
[00:27:09] Speaker C: Really.
[00:27:09] Speaker A: He's on that Applebee's commercial every five minutes.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: But I'm. I'm not talking about just commercials, though. Right. We're talking about, like, main pop culture. Dan Campbell is not in pop culture. Travis Kelsey is because of, like, his relationship and.
[00:27:25] Speaker A: Right.
[00:27:26] Speaker B: Haters gonna hate. Haters gonna hate. You know, And I get that.
[00:27:29] Speaker A: And I'm just saying I love a good Haitian.
[00:27:31] Speaker B: He's fine.
I don't think he's great.
I do think he can sometimes be a hindrance. He has had multiple passes hit him deflect off of his body and turn into interceptions. And that is costing them games.
Whether we want to admit that or not. It has cost them multiple games.
[00:27:53] Speaker A: You're right. So what's our next question from Timmy?
[00:27:56] Speaker B: Let's go to the other side. Who is really the best team in the nfc? Rams, Packers, Eagles or Seahawks?
[00:28:05] Speaker A: I'm gonna let you give your answer here, Kyle. I'm gonna reserve my answer until my segment.
[00:28:12] Speaker C: I think the best team in the NFC right now.
Kind of a tough call.
[00:28:18] Speaker B: Say it.
[00:28:19] Speaker C: I'm going Packers.
[00:28:20] Speaker B: Yeah. I knew you were gonna say it. Wow.
[00:28:24] Speaker A: Do you have an answer on that?
[00:28:25] Speaker B: I do.
It is tough because I would actually put it between the Rams and the Packers. That packers defense is. Is very good.
Very good.
But I do find they're awesome.
[00:28:38] Speaker A: You're Wearing Packer colors tonight, by the.
[00:28:39] Speaker B: Way, these are Lumen Christie, but it's fine.
[00:28:44] Speaker B: But the Packers, I find their offense to be very inconsistent and they have shown that throughout the year and they have gotten away with a lot of that inconsistency because of how elite their defense is. They still don't really have a good running game. And when you get into these late game seasons like these like late games in the season, you need a running game. Guys, I'm actually trying to have a serious conversation.
[00:29:13] Speaker A: Are you kidding me?
[00:29:14] Speaker B: I'm sorry, can you stop?
Yeah, I actually find that annoying.
[00:29:20] Speaker A: You just did a late game in the season. During the late game in the season, we can't laugh. Seriously.
[00:29:25] Speaker B: Can I. Can I continue?
[00:29:26] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, go on. Sorry.
[00:29:27] Speaker A: Go. Odd.
[00:29:27] Speaker C: That was disrespectful.
[00:29:29] Speaker B: But they are like very clearly they, they struggle on offense from one game to the next and he's. Jordan loves playing great. It's Toyota thon. Of course he's playing great.
[00:29:40] Speaker C: Well, we know.
[00:29:40] Speaker A: Yeah, you're right.
[00:29:41] Speaker B: It's the thing. But I do find the Rams are more consistent on a weekly basis. Yeah, they had a bad game against the Panthers. You're not going to be perfect when you're going throughout the season.
[00:29:54] Speaker A: Right.
[00:29:54] Speaker B: I think that's kind of a go like a, like a given. But their offense has been electric pretty much all year. They show that even against the Panthers team that they ended up losing to even throwing two interceptions, they still ended up putting up, was it 28, 30 points.
[00:30:10] Speaker A: It's really funny that tweeted that he hadn't thrown up interception and four minutes later he threw an interception.
[00:30:15] Speaker C: Oh, you know it's coming when they say that.
[00:30:17] Speaker A: But they've been doing it for weeks and it was finally shefter did it and they're like pick right.
[00:30:22] Speaker B: So it was, you know, not a great game. But still they could have been much worse. And I do find their defense is still quite capable and very good.
[00:30:33] Speaker A: So we're going to talk some best of football today.
[00:30:36] Speaker B: I do just think the Rams are overall more with it than the packers, but it's hard to go against the packers because of that defense is really good.
[00:30:47] Speaker C: I wanted to pick the Lions very bad.
[00:30:49] Speaker B: They're not, they're not, they're not.
[00:30:51] Speaker A: It.
[00:30:52] Speaker B: They got too many problems.
[00:30:53] Speaker A: Speaking of pop culture things in the news today. That's what we're going to talk about with our weekly segment. Oh, I almost am hoping I offend you guys with some of these. So I guess we got a little Ahead of our start, ahead of ourselves.
[00:31:05] Speaker B: I do have one more take.
[00:31:06] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:31:07] Speaker B: From Addison.
[00:31:09] Speaker A: Oh, Addie.
[00:31:13] Speaker B: I don't know if you guys have touched on it already, but the freaking Bears, man.
What? Johnson took the team by the balls and said, you are mine. You belong to me.
[00:31:26] Speaker B: I have a feeling we're gonna see the Bears in a couple prime time games next year.
[00:31:30] Speaker C: I agree. Yeah.
[00:31:32] Speaker B: So a couple.
[00:31:33] Speaker A: I think they might be the new Lions of like wanting the amount of.
[00:31:36] Speaker B: Pride time, the new lines. Whoever would have thought we would have.
[00:31:38] Speaker A: Said the amount of prime time games? I'll say.
[00:31:40] Speaker C: Funny.
[00:31:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Too many prime time games for me.
[00:31:43] Speaker C: The Lions are just going to be better when they're the. When they're like the sneaky. When. When they're not the. When they're the hunter, not the hunted.
[00:31:50] Speaker B: They will not so many capture the magic of that NFC championship season. I that.
[00:31:58] Speaker C: Don't be so pessimistic. They've got a lot going for them.
[00:32:01] Speaker B: Their O line is a complete disaster.
[00:32:06] Speaker C: That's fixable. They'll fix it.
[00:32:07] Speaker B: This, now here is a very big thing and this has plagued the line.
[00:32:13] Speaker A: I love the question went to Bears and we went right to lie. It's one of my favorite. Like it's a bingo point for sure on our card.
[00:32:20] Speaker C: But what's the big thing?
[00:32:22] Speaker B: The defense.
Ever since Dan Campbell's taken over this team, the defense has been terrible. Their defense sucks. They had some good games in there, but this, it's not it. Their pass rush is mediocre at best. Best most of the time.
[00:32:39] Speaker C: I thought they just had a great game this past weekend.
[00:32:42] Speaker B: Their pass rush was much better.
[00:32:44] Speaker C: Didn't Muhammad get three sacks?
[00:32:46] Speaker B: I think it was more than that actually.
[00:32:50] Speaker B: Their secondary is non existent though, because they're all injured.
[00:32:53] Speaker C: Right.
[00:32:53] Speaker A: Everyone gets some of it even more.
[00:32:55] Speaker B: But this is now two seasons. So this is the interesting thing though. This is actually, I think the third or fourth season where the Lions are up like near the top in terms of injury percentage.
That's quite high.
[00:33:10] Speaker C: What do you make of that?
[00:33:11] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know if it's some of its luck, like Hutch's injury last year was just like kind of one of those freak of nature injuries.
[00:33:21] Speaker C: But these players just play so hard. They put their whole body on the line.
[00:33:26] Speaker B: Maybe. I don't know what it is. I mean, the way Brian Branch tackles, he looks like he's obliterating every single play.
[00:33:33] Speaker A: I mean, here comes the boom music video.
[00:33:36] Speaker B: Seriously. And now he's got a Torn Achilles. And he's done. And we won't have him probably until halfway through next year.
[00:33:42] Speaker C: Good grave.
[00:33:42] Speaker A: Speaking of torn Achilles, Daniel Jones. Oh, let's talk about the Bears a little bit. Daniel Jones got injured.
Riley Leonard has a strain. Me is week to week. Anthony Richardson's on the ir. Do you know who's trying out for their team right now? D. Philip Rivers.
[00:33:57] Speaker C: No, he's not.
[00:33:58] Speaker A: Philip Rivers is trying out for the Colts.
[00:34:00] Speaker C: Serious?
[00:34:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
He actually was gonna try out for the Lions, but he misheard corner and quarterback.
[00:34:09] Speaker C: Okay. Because he's old.
[00:34:10] Speaker A: Because all the injuries and the hearing back room. Did you get it right?
[00:34:15] Speaker C: I.
[00:34:15] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:34:16] Speaker C: I get that. I thought it was a joke about how old he is.
[00:34:18] Speaker A: No, there's that too. But no, he's legit trying. They're not gonna try for the cold.
[00:34:22] Speaker B: Trade for Joe Flacco.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: Oh, man, I would love that.
[00:34:26] Speaker C: The mid season journeyman. Yeah, but we're supposed to trade deadlines, right?
[00:34:30] Speaker B: Well, can we just hope the Bengals.
[00:34:33] Speaker A: Him.
He was on television this past week.
[00:34:37] Speaker C: Yes, he was.
[00:34:38] Speaker A: Maybe he could find a way over.
[00:34:40] Speaker C: I saw him doing a lot of rhyming.
[00:34:41] Speaker A: Ceiling. High ceiling.
[00:34:42] Speaker B: He does have a high ceiling.
[00:34:44] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:34:44] Speaker B: That's all they need over there right.
[00:34:45] Speaker A: Now to answer the question about the Bears. They're a fun team and they find. I find myself rooting for them and. Never thought I would say that as somebody who loathed C. Caleb Williams as a quarterback for usc.
And I didn't like Ben Johnson. Like, he. He's on G's dead to me. Listen.
Okay, so we have a shared Google Doc of dead to me people.
[00:35:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:35:07] Speaker A: Ben Johnson, the leader in the clubhouse for G. And dead to me.
[00:35:11] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:35:12] Speaker A: So I find myself, like, kind of endeared by him ripping his shirt off just so that some people wondered how.
[00:35:17] Speaker B: You free some free hot jobs.
Yeah, man.
[00:35:20] Speaker A: You thought you were like, free the dogs. You saw that and thought, marshall's gonna love that.
[00:35:25] Speaker C: No, I was. I mean, when you were about to bring it up, I was curious, like, what your reaction.
[00:35:28] Speaker B: You think he just wants hot dogs?
[00:35:33] Speaker A: Are we good on our mailbag? Anything else you need in there?
[00:35:36] Speaker B: I don't know if there's any big news.
[00:35:37] Speaker C: The biggest. The biggest news, I thought was the Devonte Smith juicer interview. That was very touching, I thought.
[00:35:45] Speaker B: Enlighten us.
[00:35:46] Speaker C: Yeah. You didn't see a Devonte Smith got interviewed by the reporters. And he's. He's a brilliant player, not known for, like, really giving us a lot to work with when it Comes to press conference entertainment. But somebody asked him and he goes on this, you know, let me tell you something, I bought a juicer. And then he goes on to answer a lot of questions. Just talk about his juicer and how he's making juice but with fresh fruits and it's so great.
And he's telling all the other players about it and it's just. It's just like a really sweet and amusing interview and it looks like the most engaged he's ever been in. In a post game press conference.
So it's worth a watch.
[00:36:28] Speaker A: Thank you.
I consider me booked.
[00:36:33] Speaker C: It's sweet.
[00:36:35] Speaker A: Our next segment. These guys aren't really privy to it and there isn't really like a you guys need to do anything. It's more of a reaction.
For those of you that don't know, I in the news talking about pop culture in today's world. Ian, I was really upset yesterday. Kyle, I was really upset yesterday.
[00:36:53] Speaker B: Why were you upset?
[00:36:54] Speaker C: Okay, tell us.
[00:36:54] Speaker A: Let's get into it. We're going to treat the NFL like it has the College Football Playoff committee.
[00:37:02] Speaker A: Choosing the playoff teams. Hopefully you guys have stayed up to date with some NCAA football.
[00:37:07] Speaker B: I watched.
[00:37:08] Speaker C: I'm so glad that you have a podcast because now you have an outlet.
[00:37:11] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:37:12] Speaker C: Everything.
[00:37:12] Speaker A: Don't feel every person who talked to me today, every client that came in my room somehow got to hear about it.
[00:37:18] Speaker B: The McAfee show did a really. They talked about it pretty much the entire time.
[00:37:22] Speaker A: Yeah. I heard the AD go on there and just an absolute farce of a committee and a farce of a conference. Acc.
[00:37:29] Speaker B: I don't know how you let two Lane in like that.
[00:37:32] Speaker A: I can't wait for the ACC to burn and fall apart. I will buy an ACC flag and burn it in my backyard.
[00:37:39] Speaker B: Wow.
Wow.
[00:37:41] Speaker A: We're going to go through and every single college football team, I'm going to give you their NFL equivalent. I'm going to give you a. A little bit of a rhetoric as to why I would feel like that.
[00:37:52] Speaker B: This is going to be therapeutic for you, I think.
[00:37:54] Speaker C: Very.
[00:37:54] Speaker A: And then I'm going to tell you and I'm going to let you figure out on your own who's left out.
[00:38:01] Speaker A: Number one. Indiana University.
Ah. That's the number one team. And they played their rival Ohio State. Who's number two? I'll tell you who number two is right off the get go. Seattle Seahawks. They're not one. They lost their head to head. Who's head to head, Ian?
[00:38:14] Speaker C: Rams.
[00:38:15] Speaker A: Thank you.
Georgia Bulldogs.
[00:38:21] Speaker A: Have you seen that commercial of the barking at my boss and the Jordan's. Great commercial.
[00:38:26] Speaker B: No, no.
[00:38:27] Speaker A: Okay, well, Georgia Stack defense.
An older quarterback that probably shouldn't. Shouldn't be as old as what he looks like based on the years that he's been there. Gunner Stockton.
I'm talking about Georgia is the Denver Broncos. Oh, wow. Number three, the Patriots.
[00:38:46] Speaker A: They are Texas Tech. Number four.
Okay. Lead. Lead their division.
[00:38:52] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:38:53] Speaker A: Probably the third best division and ncaa.
[00:38:57] Speaker C: Is this not the first time Texas Tech has been in the playoffs? Isn't it?
I think it is.
[00:39:02] Speaker A: It's been a minute. Probably for the playoffs.
[00:39:04] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:39:04] Speaker A: But I will say they're a team that whenever I see him I think they're down six points and they got the ball.
Michael Crabtree is going to get a touchdown, buddy.
[00:39:13] Speaker C: Oh boy.
[00:39:15] Speaker A: The Bills, they're number five. Oregon Ducks. Really good jerseys. Known for the game time atmosphere.
[00:39:22] Speaker C: Oh, you like them, do you?
[00:39:24] Speaker A: A quarterback that can be up and down is known for being in his earlier years the.
[00:39:32] Speaker A: Inaccurate quarterback that now is somehow accurate. And Dante Moore.
[00:39:38] Speaker A: Did you think that's the only NFC north team? I hate to tell you it's not because I haven't talked about any of them. But we're going to hit three in a row right here.
Because you thought earlier the Lions weren't going to make the playoffs. I've been hearing about it on the podcast, sitting on it for a couple weeks. They're not here yet. But number six is Ole Miss. Ole Miss played Texas A and M and they won.
But the team they beat was the Packers.
The packers beat the Bears. I'm sorry, I misspoke there. So we got number six, the packers, number seven, the Bears. And number eight, it's Oklahoma.
Okay, Oklahoma. Pretty strong team, moved conferences in cba.
[00:40:18] Speaker B: But the.
[00:40:19] Speaker A: The re. There's only one reason Oklahoma's in this and it's because they beat Alabama. And it's a travesty that Alabama is in the NCAA College Football playoff. When they got.
I had three more rushing yards than they did on Saturday.
[00:40:34] Speaker A: I let that sink in again. I had three more rushing yards than they did on Saturday.
[00:40:40] Speaker C: Oh, wow.
[00:40:40] Speaker A: Got beat 28 to 7. Great job, Alabama. You're so good and it'd be a travesty not to have you in the playoffs.
[00:40:47] Speaker B: Right?
[00:40:48] Speaker A: Kansas City.
Right, Kansas City. And who's the one team that the team that beat Kansas City their good win of the season?
Detroit Lions.
Detroit Lions beat Kansas City. We've been talking about all year Oklahoma. They didn't beat Kansas City.
[00:41:03] Speaker B: We didn't we lost them, but we.
[00:41:05] Speaker C: Beat the Ravens, man, the Jaguars, Big Kansas. Switch it up.
[00:41:10] Speaker B: You can switch. Yeah, you can kick the lines out. We know we want to.
[00:41:13] Speaker A: All right, fine. I'm putting the Jaguars there. But.
[00:41:15] Speaker B: But hold on.
[00:41:17] Speaker A: We're gonna talk about the Lions a little bit later. I think I got a good little come up on them 49ers. They're Miami. They're just on the coast. They're by the ocean. Commission loves Miami.
That's where he does his runs at. You know, it's pretty typical Tulane. Let's talk about tulane. Tulane's number 11.
Really, like, weak. Why are they there? It's out of pity.
That's why the Lions are there.
Number 12.
[00:41:43] Speaker B: Hey, out of pity.
[00:41:47] Speaker A: Number 12.
[00:41:47] Speaker B: I read you. Kick this out and say pity.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: Number 12 is James Madison. The only reason they're there is there be the lowest.
[00:41:56] Speaker A: Number one seed out of a conference that has a conference champion.
Also the worst conference. Division. I'm sorry, not conference. The worst division in the NFL has a leader at it currently.
[00:42:08] Speaker B: Oh, the Bucks.
[00:42:09] Speaker A: The Pittsburgh Steelers.
[00:42:11] Speaker B: Yeah, that works, too. That works.
[00:42:13] Speaker A: But with that being said, we do have some teams that are left out, and most notably, we're talking about the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. I don't know if I mentioned that Notre Dame left out of the playoffs. So who are they? Well, there. I. I hate to tell you this, but Notre Dame is actually the third batting favorite to win the College Football Playoff as of yesterday at 11:59.
[00:42:33] Speaker C: It seems like it would be hard to do since they're not in the playoffs.
[00:42:37] Speaker A: Some might say the third highest.
I'm confused.
Might have the same. They're leading their division. They were not on this list. If you've been paying attention to me rambling, you the easy one, Ian, who's your pick?
[00:42:52] Speaker B: Was the Eagles then, right?
[00:42:54] Speaker C: Or the Rams?
[00:42:54] Speaker A: Well, somebody.
[00:42:55] Speaker B: No, we said the Rams.
[00:42:56] Speaker A: Marshall's team. Oh, the Philadelphia.
[00:43:00] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:43:00] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:43:00] Speaker A: That's what we call a callback.
[00:43:02] Speaker C: I love this callback.
[00:43:03] Speaker A: Thank you for that. Thank you. Okay, so what do you think? The Eagles should be left out of the playoffs, guys.
[00:43:10] Speaker C: Oh, how interesting.
[00:43:12] Speaker B: Well, they are currently losing. We're not talking live on the Chiefs.
[00:43:15] Speaker C: Alabama one is pretty good.
[00:43:16] Speaker A: I like that. Thank you.
[00:43:18] Speaker B: That is a good. That is a good comparison.
The. The Eagles are currently losing against the Chargers right now as we speak.
[00:43:25] Speaker A: 73, for those that are listening, set your clocks right. 5, 31 left in the second.
[00:43:29] Speaker C: Oh, wow.
[00:43:30] Speaker B: Eagles.
[00:43:32] Speaker A: They.
[00:43:33] Speaker B: They do have some issues.
I. I think they have some glaring Problems offensively, they are quite. They've regressed pretty badly.
[00:43:42] Speaker C: I really insist. It's not a bandwagon. Time to jump on board. They're a dysfunctional organization.
[00:43:48] Speaker A: They are.
[00:43:48] Speaker B: They are tear down even when they're super.
[00:43:54] Speaker B: The drafting part, even when they like they win.
It's like they're all hating on each other. Like they hate each other.
Especially on the offensive side.
[00:44:05] Speaker C: Can you name me a franchise in the NFL where there is more drama?
[00:44:11] Speaker A: The Dallas Cowboys.
[00:44:12] Speaker C: Really? You think?
[00:44:13] Speaker B: Oh, not right now.
[00:44:14] Speaker A: Their owner has a press conference after every game.
[00:44:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:16] Speaker C: That's perpetual. That's decades long. You call that ongoing drama?
[00:44:20] Speaker B: I guess I would.
[00:44:20] Speaker A: That's probably. That's been happening for decades.
[00:44:23] Speaker B: Well, but I would would argue that that's okay.
But that's. That's just Jerry. It's not the team itself having these issues.
[00:44:32] Speaker C: Yeah. I think Schottenheimer and the rest of that team.
[00:44:34] Speaker A: Would he name it the Dallas Jerry's if given the chance?
[00:44:37] Speaker B: No, I don't think he would.
[00:44:39] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean like I, I do think that the, the most. If you had to summarize it to somebody who doesn't know what's going on with this league in this team, like the, the old.
[00:44:51] Speaker C: Take that if Jerry were given the choice of having the Cowboys win but he doesn't get any credit, he would not take it.
[00:44:59] Speaker A: It's just like really Collinsworth.
[00:45:02] Speaker B: I, I don't know.
[00:45:03] Speaker C: I've heard whoever said that. Yeah. But like it really encapsulates what's going on there. But I think I really. I posit to you that the Eagles are the most drama filled, dysfunctional team in the world.
[00:45:15] Speaker A: Definitely. Dysfunctional is a good word for them.
[00:45:17] Speaker B: It's from it like it's from the coach. The coach is just as.
He's so Philly to me. He's such a. He's so Philly to me.
[00:45:28] Speaker C: There is something to that.
[00:45:29] Speaker B: It's like this. Like if they were. If I could pick a coach, it would be him. And for some reason.
And I think he's in problem or he has a problem on his hands because Kellen Moore obviously has shown.
Even though like the, the Saints are, you know, whatever right now.
[00:45:47] Speaker C: Right.
[00:45:48] Speaker B: That offense is taken, not just a step back. They are like 50 miles.
[00:45:54] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:45:54] Speaker B: Directionless at this point in the season. Saquon Barkley last year had like somewhere around 1800 yards. Yeah. And he only has about 800 yards. Yeah, 800. That's a thousand yards less.
[00:46:10] Speaker B: That's nuts.
[00:46:11] Speaker C: Huge difference.
[00:46:12] Speaker B: They. Their offense Sucks. Their defense is still quite good, which is why they're 8 and 4 right now. It's mostly because their defense can still keep them in games long enough for their offense to occasionally have a big play.
[00:46:25] Speaker C: It's a funny team though. I mean they do look like ever that they all hate the coach and the coach hates them and the fans hate the coach and he hates the fans and. And A.J.
[00:46:35] Speaker B: Brown is just.
[00:46:37] Speaker C: Oh, you're so in for the. For the diva wide receiver.
[00:46:42] Speaker B: What do you gotta.
[00:46:43] Speaker C: I'm still selling it to him.
I'm gonna stop.
[00:46:46] Speaker A: Still stuck.
[00:46:46] Speaker C: I'm gonna stop. I didn't, I didn't know like that those, these characteristics of the. Of the team resemble Notre Dame very well. I didn't think so, but maybe their circumstances do as I don't think that they're drama filled. No, I didn't really think that. But you're doing this is more of a circumstantial comp than it is about.
[00:47:06] Speaker A: A characteristics and that they're the third betting favorite.
[00:47:09] Speaker C: Right. Oh, which I like. That is. That is pretty good.
[00:47:11] Speaker B: If they lose tonight, if the Eagles lose tonight, do the Cowboys. Do you think they can swipe in and steal this from.
[00:47:19] Speaker A: Gosh, what were we. We buried the, the Cowboys early in the season.
[00:47:24] Speaker C: We kind of did.
[00:47:25] Speaker B: We did. But I gotta hand it to the poohed on them. I gotta hand it to the boys. Their offense is quite good.
[00:47:32] Speaker C: Super good. Yeah.
[00:47:33] Speaker B: Their defense is definitely not great.
[00:47:36] Speaker C: It has gone from the worst in the league to middle of the pack. That might be generous. But better. But better.
[00:47:42] Speaker B: They're better.
[00:47:43] Speaker A: That was generous.
[00:47:46] Speaker A: That was generous.
[00:47:47] Speaker C: Let's just say not the worst.
[00:47:48] Speaker B: But their offense is very good.
[00:47:50] Speaker A: Yeah, they're like terrible, right?
[00:47:53] Speaker B: Well, no, I think before playing the Lions they were like the number one scoring offense in the league. Or they were up there. Yeah, they were up there.
[00:47:59] Speaker C: I think so.
[00:48:00] Speaker A: Which is pretty fascinating to think.
[00:48:02] Speaker C: It is fun.
[00:48:03] Speaker B: And I gotta give it to Scheimer. I poo pooed him the moment he was hired. And I, I will. You know, I'll admit he has done much better. Liam Cohen, also much better.
Dude, those guys.
[00:48:19] Speaker A: Did you hear Jamis on the call talking about how he pronounces Duvall the right way.
[00:48:26] Speaker A: There? He's like, that's my boy. You know he. He says Duvall the right way. Duvall.
[00:48:33] Speaker A: James. I loved it.
[00:48:34] Speaker B: James is something special. I can't wait for the super bowl with him again.
[00:48:38] Speaker A: Right?
[00:48:39] Speaker C: For sure.
[00:48:40] Speaker B: But yeah. I don't know like you're talking about.
[00:48:43] Speaker A: When he's on the super bowl for the Colts.
[00:48:46] Speaker B: The colts, yeah.
[00:48:47] Speaker A: Of course. 100. Making sure we were on the same.
[00:48:51] Speaker C: We'll start for them.
Yeah, it's coming.
Okay. So good comps.
[00:48:58] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:48:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I like them.
[00:49:00] Speaker A: Good luck to the Eagles.
[00:49:01] Speaker C: That's fun and interesting. I mean, wonder how many of our listeners are, like, college football followers.
[00:49:04] Speaker B: If the Eagles don't make the playoffs because the league decides to kick them out, that they're going to sit out, sit out the first game of the season.
[00:49:12] Speaker A: I do think that they won't elect to be a part of the Pop Tart Bowl. That's meaningless and could injure their older players. I think you're right.
[00:49:18] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:49:18] Speaker B: Well, they've already said they won't, but.
[00:49:20] Speaker C: It'S really called the Pop Tart Bowl.
[00:49:24] Speaker B: Are you joking? Of course. A team would not want to be like, I'm not playing in the Pop Tart Bowl.
[00:49:29] Speaker A: There's four Pop Tarts that come out now.
[00:49:32] Speaker B: Are you kidding me? They upgraded their toaster.
[00:49:35] Speaker A: They upgraded their toaster.
[00:49:37] Speaker B: Stop.
[00:49:40] Speaker C: I can't.
[00:49:41] Speaker A: Why do we stop?
[00:49:42] Speaker C: I, I, I'm stopping with the college football for now.
[00:49:46] Speaker B: Do we.
So fantasy. Fantasy. Oh, I mean, I'm, I lost my game this week.
[00:49:55] Speaker B: It's you, too.
[00:49:55] Speaker A: Where are you? First place away.
[00:49:58] Speaker B: No, he can't.
I've already clinched number one.
[00:50:02] Speaker C: You closed number one.
[00:50:04] Speaker A: He might have kicked me out of second.
[00:50:07] Speaker B: Yeah, the little gold check mark means I clinched the number one.
[00:50:10] Speaker A: All right. All right.
[00:50:11] Speaker B: Well, that's because I have 11 wins and I beat him, I think, twice.
[00:50:15] Speaker A: That's where. If I was you, I would have benched everyone on my team last week.
[00:50:19] Speaker B: Why?
[00:50:20] Speaker A: I don't want to.
[00:50:21] Speaker B: I don't want him to get injured.
[00:50:23] Speaker A: I don't want to beat Tim.
[00:50:25] Speaker B: I didn't beat him anyways.
[00:50:27] Speaker C: Yeah, you're gonna, you're still gonna be in. No, you're. Yeah, you're gonna be in third now, Marshall, because you're about to lose to Rick and I will be in fourth.
[00:50:35] Speaker B: So. Guys, we're all gonna make the playoffs, though.
[00:50:38] Speaker C: Yeah. We will all be top four. Us and Rick.
[00:50:41] Speaker A: It's like our pick Them.
[00:50:43] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:50:44] Speaker A: Usually comes down to one of us.
[00:50:46] Speaker C: I find it, Yeah, I find it satisfyingly validating, you know, that we are the podcasters. You know, we host this show. We know football and our listeners come and enjoy and they compete against us and we smoke them.
Respectfully, we love our listeners, but we know ball.
[00:51:00] Speaker A: We smoke.
[00:51:01] Speaker B: Clearly, we crushed.
[00:51:03] Speaker C: Yeah, we smoke them and it's very cute that you listeners think you compete against us. You know, that's great.
[00:51:08] Speaker B: I was the top dog for a long time here, guys. I've been sitting at the number one spot, I think all, most of the season.
[00:51:17] Speaker C: No disrespect for all your participating listeners.
[00:51:19] Speaker A: But take the disrespect.
[00:51:21] Speaker C: Yeah, but the guy, the folks who really know ball in this league are the guys who host the pod and that shouldn't surprise anybody.
[00:51:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:28] Speaker B: All right.
[00:51:30] Speaker C: And for some reason Rick too. Who? Mattingly. Maddeningly is a hockey guy and it's still really good.
[00:51:37] Speaker B: Madden's not in hockey.
[00:51:40] Speaker A: Steve Madden. Okay. Okay, let's get to our.
[00:51:45] Speaker C: I'm sorry, Justin, for handing you that loss today. I, I, I smoked Justin.
Wow.
[00:51:50] Speaker A: Smoked him. You didn't have to say it like that.
[00:51:52] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:51:52] Speaker B: All right, let's get to our upsets.
[00:51:54] Speaker A: Don't get mad.
[00:51:55] Speaker C: I almost, I almost doubled his points.
[00:51:58] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:51:59] Speaker C: Like it's the definition of a.
[00:52:01] Speaker B: That's quite impressive.
[00:52:02] Speaker A: All right. Like I was saying.
[00:52:04] Speaker B: Who's your upset?
[00:52:05] Speaker A: Oh, my upset is the Lions beating the Rams.
[00:52:10] Speaker B: I, I hope that for you.
[00:52:12] Speaker A: I also hope that, I hope that, I hope that.
[00:52:15] Speaker C: I think I picked the same too.
[00:52:16] Speaker B: Just because I, I picked the Rams just because I really don't feel like the matchup is in lion's favor here.
[00:52:24] Speaker C: And you're not a good fan. You're just not riding with your team. No, just Mr. Pessimism.
[00:52:28] Speaker B: No, I'm being realistic.
[00:52:30] Speaker C: You're not a believer?
[00:52:31] Speaker B: Realistic.
[00:52:32] Speaker C: They, they struggle in one area and you just give.
[00:52:34] Speaker B: They struggle in full. Two major areas.
[00:52:37] Speaker C: You and your dad are just secondary.
[00:52:39] Speaker B: No, this is not, this is not that.
[00:52:42] Speaker C: Give up on your team.
[00:52:43] Speaker B: I'm not giving up on my team.
I'm a realistic human being. When I watch them play, their secondary is in the trash.
They are going to get the Rams what wins championships.
[00:52:56] Speaker C: Ian.
[00:52:57] Speaker B: Defense.
[00:52:58] Speaker C: Not secondary, not second.
[00:53:01] Speaker B: They are.
[00:53:02] Speaker A: I found myself in session today saying I live my life by one thing. And I took everything in me not to say defense.
[00:53:10] Speaker B: Defense.
[00:53:12] Speaker B: I stand by that. Because what are some of the best teams, some of the best teams in football right now all have top tier defenses.
[00:53:19] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:53:20] Speaker B: Houston, we have, we didn't really talk about them. Houston's defense.
[00:53:24] Speaker C: Yeah.
They're 100 in a position that if like that offense like somehow magically kind of figured out a little bit way to just score 20 plus points a game. Game like the Texans could go on a run. They've got a Super bowl caliber.
[00:53:35] Speaker A: They're Going to be like.
[00:53:36] Speaker B: They're going to be like the Ravens when they won. Just like carried by an absolute monster defense.
[00:53:42] Speaker C: You just really need a competent offense. And that's not. That's not out of reach.
[00:53:45] Speaker B: That's not.
[00:53:46] Speaker C: That's not impossible for the Texans. They could do that. So I would consider them a scary, threatening team in the AFC 100. They're a tough matchup for everybody, and.
[00:53:55] Speaker B: They'Re beating some pretty solid teams right now.
[00:53:57] Speaker A: I get behind that. I like that.
[00:53:59] Speaker B: Yeah. This is not anything to do with our picture.
[00:54:01] Speaker C: They might even be the team that you don't want to see in the playoffs because they've kind of. They have consistently humbled the greats.
[00:54:07] Speaker B: We love a good team that you don't want to see.
[00:54:10] Speaker C: It might be them.
[00:54:11] Speaker B: We know how that plays out.
[00:54:12] Speaker C: Which is the team that's made Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen and a lot of the other great quarterbacks look bad.
[00:54:17] Speaker B: This is true.
[00:54:18] Speaker C: Indie Indy. Yep.
[00:54:24] Speaker B: How about.
[00:54:24] Speaker A: Let's hear your upset pick, Kyle.
[00:54:26] Speaker C: Let me open up that browser window.
[00:54:28] Speaker A: I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with pooh. Orleans.
[00:54:32] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
The New Orleans Saints are on a win streak right now.
[00:54:36] Speaker B: How many have they won? Did they win one in a row?
[00:54:39] Speaker C: One in a row. It's gonna be two because they're gonna upset those Panthers.
[00:54:44] Speaker B: I'm taking the Bengals over the Ravens.
[00:54:49] Speaker B: The AFC north went from one of the best divisions in football to one of the worst divisions.
[00:54:53] Speaker C: I know. And you're expecting to be. Get slightly more interesting. It's not going to be interesting. No outcome of that game will make that an interesting division. But still, that would be fun.
[00:55:03] Speaker B: Well, if Baltimore loses, the Steelers are like.
[00:55:07] Speaker C: They probably lock the. Well, they're very close to locking up that division. Yeah.
[00:55:11] Speaker B: Which the Steelers are.
[00:55:14] Speaker C: And it's so great to give Bengals fans a little more taste of what could have been, you know?
[00:55:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:55:19] Speaker C: Isn't it awesome?
[00:55:20] Speaker B: That last game really showed them what could have been two picks at the absolute worst time. Yeah.
[00:55:30] Speaker A: I'm so bummed for the Ravens.
[00:55:32] Speaker C: Oh, man, I. I wish I had as much.
[00:55:35] Speaker B: The wheels came off.
[00:55:36] Speaker C: I wish I had the. The free time that the Ravens coaching staff had because it's so clear to me they don't game plan.
And I. I'm not sure what they're doing with all their time in between games, but it's not preparing for those games because their team looks like the least prepared. They're terrible. They're the team that looks to me like. Well, we know we have talent all over this field. We could list a lot of guys who are recognizable names.
So we should probably win. We don't really need to make a plan or anything. We don't need to strategize. We don't need to prepare. We'll just throw talent on the field and hope for the best. That doesn't really get you very far in the NFL.
[00:56:23] Speaker B: This is the point in the the season where I'm going to be quoted saying, well, you know, Harbaugh could be in trouble here.
[00:56:31] Speaker C: I was waiting for that.
[00:56:33] Speaker B: I've already done my Tomlin one a couple weeks.
[00:56:35] Speaker C: Yeah, we talked about being here.
[00:56:39] Speaker A: I missed being here to hear you say that.
[00:56:41] Speaker B: Let's get to our teams that we feel a little bit better about.
[00:56:43] Speaker A: Guarantee that going to be a W. Don't even think about it. Don't bat your eyes at it. It's happening. Tampa Bay Bounce back week, baby.
[00:56:52] Speaker C: I love that bet. I would have taken that bet. I love a bounce Back pick.
[00:56:57] Speaker A: I don't.
[00:56:57] Speaker B: I. Funny enough, I was like, struggling to pick a team here because I was like, oh, I'm tired of picking up against the worst teams and I. I'm tired of picking the same teams. And then what do I do? I pick San Fran over Tennessee.
So I don't know what I was doing, but I feel like I haven't picked San Fran enough. So I felt validated in taking them. So San Francisco, I appreciate you.
I'm picking those.
[00:57:20] Speaker A: Don't get them choked up.
[00:57:21] Speaker C: Scary Texans over the Cardinals.
[00:57:25] Speaker B: I almost picked that.
[00:57:27] Speaker C: I feel pretty good about that.
[00:57:29] Speaker B: The only reason.
The only reason I didn't was because I'm still nervous about the Texans offense.
[00:57:37] Speaker B: It makes me feel like they could, like, take their huge, massive advantage and, like, flush down the drain. They could, but I hope that's not the case.
[00:57:47] Speaker C: Yeah, they could. I've got more faith in them. This isn't the Jaguars.
[00:57:53] Speaker A: Shots fired.
[00:57:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:57:54] Speaker A: Anything else before.
Anything else before we finish our pod today, guys, we love you.
[00:58:02] Speaker B: We're getting. Yeah. Congrats. Lando Norris.
[00:58:05] Speaker C: Who's that?
[00:58:06] Speaker B: Formula one champion of the world. Okay, there he goes.
[00:58:11] Speaker C: Very good.
[00:58:12] Speaker B: It was a good season. I enjoyed watching it. That's all I want to say.
[00:58:15] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:58:15] Speaker A: You're talking about Formula one. Oh, Thought it was nascar.
[00:58:20] Speaker B: Nascar. Nascar did have someone die recently. Wow.
[00:58:23] Speaker C: Really?
[00:58:24] Speaker A: You want to end on that?
[00:58:25] Speaker C: Oh, my gosh. Okay. Way to bring it down.
Who?
[00:58:29] Speaker B: Merry Christmas, guys.
[00:58:30] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:58:36] Speaker A: I cannot believe that Notre Dame is in the playoff. It's absolute travesty.
Those of you that are preying on my downfall.
[00:58:45] Speaker A: You know what's gonna happen to you?
You're gonna become a two lane Tide fan.
And the waves are coming crashing against you. This upcoming year, you're gonna get beat by 35 points to an un crappy team.
Their name should be in the playoff. That's all I have to say. Goodbye. Have a good day.
[00:59:04] Speaker C: Bye.
